Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Apparently corrupt administration of this list
4(5) and 4(6).) If not, I believe that neither his membership nor his position on the committee is legal. Tony - Original Message - From: Wikimedia Australia Chapter wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org To: Wikimedia Australia Chapter wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org Cc: Sent: Sun, 16 Mar 2014 17:23:18 +0800 Subject: Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Apparently corrupt administration of this list https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Mailing_lists Please respect Wikiquettehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Etiquetteand avoid personal attackshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_personal_attackson the mailing lists, especially in the subject header as this is likely to be repeated by those replying. It's in black and white. kindest regards Andrew On 16 March 2014 17:18, K. Peachey p858sn...@gmail.com wrote: On 16 March 2014 17:50, Steven Zhang steven.zh...@wikimedia.org.auwrote: 2. ... but actively disrupting the list is against both the rules and spirit of the list, and always has been. ... [Citation Needed], I see no rules http://www.wikimedia.org.au//wiki/Mailing_list or https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l. And what and which foundation staff members where involved in this? ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimediaorg/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-lhttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l -- Chris Watkins Appropedia.org - Sharing knowledge to build rich, sustainable lives. ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Fwd: Contracting: procurement subcommittee
Thanks John, On 23/06/2013 4:54 PM, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, The following email has been sent through to the members mailing list. If you have the desired experience, we need you! ;-) Please join our public meeting next Sunday to help us establish the contracting model. Looking at http://wikimedia.org.au I see an IRC meeting on 7 July - is that the one you mean? -- Forwarded message -- From: John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com Date: Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 4:51 PM Subject: Contracting: procurement subcommittee To: WMAu members memb...@wikimedia.org.au Hi members, Wikimedia Australia has adopted a contracting model for resourcing our organisation. The first step down this path is setting up a 'procurement subcommittee', which will be a group of volunteers who review and approve packages of work that are to be given to contractors. The committee is seeking members of the organisation who have an interest in being part of this procurement subcommittee. If you have financial, HR, or project management experience, you'd be ideal. If you have some other experience that might be relevant, you're ideal too! However members of the procurement subcommittee can't be a contractor. You can be part of this procurement subcommittee for a limited time if, say, you'd like to help set it up but can't make a long-term commitment to the role. If you're interested, please send an email with your relevant experience to the committee (c...@wikimedia.org.au). We'll be discussing this at the next public meeting, which is next Sunday. If you are interested in working for Wikimedia Australia as a contractor, or know someone who is, we'll be calling for contractors soon after the procurement subcommittee is established. If you have a wiki project that could benefit from some paid personnel, please send your ideas to the members mailing list (memb...@wikimedia.org.au) for discussion, and please come to the public meeting next week. For more details, see the approved proposal page. http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Proposal:Contracting Regards, John Vandenberg ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Fwd: [---] Australian Census Data Released Under CC License, But Official Site Tries To Make It Hard To Download
On 26/04/2013 1:28 PM, Nick Dowling nick_dowl...@hotmail.com wrote: It would be worth considering whether the ABS is actually funded to provide the IT infrastructure and staff time needed to set up and maintain arrangements to allow people to download the entire Census dataset (which I suspect would be a fairly unusual requirement). In my experience ABS staff are pretty keen to have people use their data - An anecdote: At a BarCampCanberra a few years ago (2010?) there was a session on open data and Gov 2.0. Someone from the ABS (not a spokesperson) was in the session and said that the ABS wanted to make data available, but in sets to be used for particular purposes - they didn't want purple to have access to the whole thing lest the data be misused. Steve Collins (a.k.a. @trib) and others made it clear that they disagreed, and why. That said, things may have changed in ABS, and I don't know how representative those views were in the first place. But it's a safe bet that ABS has some people pushing for wide open access and others trying to restrict access, to some degree. Chris the problem is that they're permanently short of money for non-essential tasks and need to cover at least some of their costs for non-core business as they're not funded for it. Regards, Nick From: p858sn...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 20:34:17 +1000 To: wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimediaau-l] Fwd: [---] Australian Census Data Released Under CC License, But Official Site Tries To Make It Hard To Download From a private list I'm on, Thought some of you guys may be interested -- Forwarded message -- From: MW ---@gmail.com Date: Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 8:05 PM Subject: [---] Australian Census Data Released Under CC License, But Official Site Tries To Make It Hard To Download To: --- --- http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130421/02575922789/australian-census-data-released-under-cc-license-official-site-tries-to-make-it-hard-to-download.shtml by Glyn Moody Mon, Apr 22nd 2013 8:09pm The whole point about adopting Creative Commons licenses is to make it easier for people to share and use works released under them. Sometimes, though, you get the impression that certain organizations adopting these licenses would rather that didn't happen, as in the following case from Australia, reported by IT News: The Australian Bureau of Statistics has released the latest census data for free under a Creative Commons license but appears to be steering people towards a $250 mailed out DVD rather than making it easy to download the information directly over the internet. Programmer and freelance journalist Grahame Bowland who first noticed it, said the government agency is going to great lengths to discourage people from downloading the files directly by dint of a convoluted site layout and Javascript functions that obfuscate file paths. The post then goes on to describe in detail some of the attempts to make it difficult to download all of the census data, including a hard-to-find registration page, a complex matrix of download options, and Javascript code that does stuff like this: // Function: guidGenerator // Description:returns a pseudo-random GUID //This is appended to a url for 2 reasons //1. to make the URL unique, so that the browser always gets it and doesn't use a cached version //2. to make a URL look like its got a unique key, in a naive attempt to fool a not-so-wily hacker //into thinking they can't download a datapack directly if they know the URL pattern, because they //need a unique key. Notice how anyone who might want to download datapacks directly is branded a hacker. That's a worrying attitude, since it seems to equate people who want to take advantage of the CC license to explore the census without jumping through the site's hoops as shady subversives (I doubt the comment used the term hacker in its more positive sense). As the IT News story suggests, the motivation for this obfuscation seems to be to encourage people to pay AU $250 (about US $257) for the DVD version instead. To save others from having to deal with the unhelpful Web site, Bowland generously stumped up the $250 himself, and made the full census database freely available as a torrent, as is perfectly legal under the CC-BY license. This shows perfectly why it is pointless trying to make it hard for people to download content that is CC licensed: once anyone has obtained a copy, they can then make it available in a more convenient form, neatly by-passing forlorn attempts to control something that has been set free forever. ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] GovHack
Thanks. I can't make the first day, but 'll be in Sydney on the 2nd - in case anyone forms a team and wants to invite me :-). On 18 April 2013 11:07, Gnangarra gnanga...@gmail.com wrote: Might be an opportunity for some people to make new contacts, get involve increase free content access http://www.govhack.org/ -- GN. Photo Gallery: http://gnangarra.redbubble.com Gn. Blogg: http://gnangarra.wordpress.com ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l -- Chris Watkins Appropedia.org - Sharing knowledge to build rich, sustainable lives. ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Wikimedia Australia's FDC application
Thanks Craig, Your efforts and the efforts of others in moving this forward are much appreciated. What can we, members and supporters, do to help? I don't want to make big promises (what with the cooking and the kids... metaphorically speaking) but is it possible to chunk down the key parts of the key projects and see where people are inspired to contribute? On 06/03/2013 10:25 PM, Craig Franklin cfrank...@halonetwork.net wrote: Dear All, As you may be aware, Wikimedia Australia has withdrawn its application for funding from round two of the Funds Dissemination Committee’s (FDC) application process. John Vandenberg and Steve Zhang spoke about this at length during our public meeting last weekend, and I encourage you to read the transcript of the meeting below for their thoughts on the matter: http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Meeting:Public_(2013-03-03)/Transcript This email is a summary of some of my thoughts on why we did this, and what direction the organisation should take from here. These are my thoughts only and not the official position of the chapter. The nature of the FDC’s application process is that they have two major grantmaking rounds every year, with the most recent round closing on March 1. It had been the intention of the management committee to apply for annual funding for the 2013 calendar year through this process. As March 1 came closer, it became apparent to me and the rest of the committee that we simply weren’t going to be ready for this date. The reasons for this were: * We were still in the early stages of planning the World War One WiR programme, a major initiative of the chapter that is tentatively budgeted at over $150,000. However, we felt that it was unlikely we would be successful in getting funding for this initiative until we had a more concrete idea of which institutions would be participating, how many Wikimedians in Residence we could realistically support, and what the overhead costs of running the program would be. * Other programmes that the chapter has on the table need further detail and costing to be performed before they’re ready to go. The outcomes of these programmes are positive, and they align with the strategic plans of both the chapter and the Wikimedia Foundation, but we need to get better at articulating how we’ll get from vision to implementation, and how much money we’ll spend, and what we’ll spend it on. * The FDC in the last round recommended that we establish a more consistent record of programme success, and while we have had successful programmes in that time (our presence at the New Librarian’s Symposium and ALIA Information On Line events, workshops in Toowoomba and Bendigo, and the beginning of a relationship with the State Library of New South Wales), another six months of solid achievement will give us a better foundation upon which to ask for further funding. The other major factor in making this decision is the significant amount of administrative overhead that is involved in preparing and submitting an application to the FDC. As you are probably aware, Wikimedia Australia has no paid staff, and the bulk of the work is done by members of the management committee, whose time is taken up with their own jobs, families, and other commitments. Our limited and precious Wikimedia time is usually best served advancing the interests of the community and the movement by doing the things that we are good at – running workshops, talking to GLAMs, and bringing the community together, rather than filling out paperwork for the Foundation. I have observed that most if not all of the entities who have thus far been successful in obtaining funds from the FDC have been those entities who already have paid staff and other resources who can write a quality application without having to worry about looking after the kids and cooking dinner at the same time. My other observation would be that lodging an FDC application effectively bars an organisation from requesting funding from the Wikimedia Foundation through their other funding processes. I do not see any logical reason for this; surely a request for funding ought to be judged on its merits and positive impact on the movement, rather than on decisions made in a separate programme by a separate body. If we applied to the FDC and got another disappointing offer, it would more or less preclude the chapter from being able to take advantage of any other opportunities that presented themselves for a whole year. Having been on the committee of management for over two years now, it has been my experience that such opportunities often present themselves at very short notice, and tying ourselves to an annual funding model with no opportunity to make supplementary applications would not be in the best interests of the movement. So, where to from here? At the moment, the plan is to apply for funding on a per-project basis from
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] [wmau:members] Re: Wikimedia Australia public meeting
On 3 March 2013 14:46, Tony Souter to...@iinet.net.au wrote: Could there be more notice? And an agenda topic or two might attract more members into participating. Items don't have to be billed as occupying the meeting exclusively. Agreed - I appreciate the work done by the organizers, but I reckon more notice and topics would get more of us to join in. I have the meetings as a recurring event in my calendar, but something always distracts me... if I knew what was going to be discussed, I'm sure I'd be more likely to remember to actually log on. -- Chris Watkins Appropedia.org - Sharing knowledge to build rich, sustainable lives. ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Wikimedia in Higher Education symposium at The University of Sydney on Friday 5 April 2013
It's probably worth contacting them - if submissions have fallen short of expectations, they'll probably be very happy to have a submission by Monday, say. On 28/02/2013 6:17 PM, Leigh Blackall leighblack...@gmail.com wrote: last night! Jesus. I would have, but not last night, not tonight even. I must have missed the news confirming this symposium. On Feb 27, 2013 2:10 PM, Toby Hudson tob...@gmail.com wrote: In case anyone is not yet aware, there is going to be a Wikimedia in Higher Education symposium at The University of Sydney on Friday 5 April 2013. Both Wikimedians and Educators are welcome. If you are interested in presenting a paper, the call for papers closes tonight, so please be quick to at least indicate that you're interested. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Sydney/5_April_2013 ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] Dreamhost customers - Dreamhost will double your donation to WMF
Donate via the DreamHost panel. It's normally for a three month period, and it should finish at the end of Feb, I think (replaced by new charities)... but they're being quiet about it so I can't confirm the date. I only found out by looking in the panel. -- Chris Watkins Appropedia.org - Sharing knowledge to build rich, sustainable lives. ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] Two Kay Nesbits, not on en
Not meaning to make a fuss - I just thought this was odd enough for comment, and Laura will probably be interested: The Australian badminton player Kay Nesbit is on de: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kay_Nesbit - but there's no article on en for her. Translated by Google: Mary Kay Nesbit (* around 1945, Kay married Terry) is an Australian badminton player. Career Kay Nesbit won from 1964 to 1968 five times in a row at the Australian Championships in women's singles. Further, she won four titles in doubles, another two in mixed doubles. For Australia, it started in 1963, 1965 and 1969 at the Whyte Trophy and 1966 and 1970 at the British Commonwealth Games. credentials Annual Handbook of the International Badminton Federation, London, 28 Edition, 1970, pp. 110-112 I actually found it by looking for the other Kay Nesbit, the Australian woman who survived a shotgun attack in 1985. Also not on en, so I made a userspace draft: Kay Nesbithttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Chriswaterguy/Kay_Nesbit -- Chris Watkins Appropedia.org - Sharing knowledge to build rich, sustainable lives. ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] Looking for a Semantic MediaWiki developer
I wonder if anyone could recommend a developer to do some work for Appropedia.org, upgrading our MediaWiki and cleaning up our server, and doing some work with our Semantic MediaWiki... we're looking for reliable and tidy work rather than super-flash snazzy coding. It's a paid gig - but we're a small non-profit foundation, so it will be a small job (possibly with more work in future). Location is not important, of course, but if they happened to be in either Melbourne or Northern California, all the better. Feel free to pass this on. Anyone who's interested can contact me - send a CV if you have one, or a bit about your MediaWiki experience. Thanks! -- Chris Watkins Appropedia.org - Sharing knowledge to build rich, sustainable lives. ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Looking for a Semantic MediaWiki developer
Sorry for going off-topic - should have checked first. On 28 October 2012 12:27, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a place on mediawiki.org to place this sort of thing? Can't find one, but this looks useful: http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Professional_support - and I'll hang out on IRC a bit. Thanks John Vandenberg. sent from Galaxy Note On Oct 27, 2012 9:48 PM, Chris Watkins chriswater...@appropedia.org wrote: I wonder if anyone could recommend a developer to do some work for Appropedia.org, upgrading our MediaWiki and cleaning up our server, and doing some work with our Semantic MediaWiki... we're looking for reliable and tidy work rather than super-flash snazzy coding. It's a paid gig - but we're a small non-profit foundation, so it will be a small job (possibly with more work in future). Location is not important, of course, but if they happened to be in either Melbourne or Northern California, all the better. Feel free to pass this on. Anyone who's interested can contact me - send a CV if you have one, or a bit about your MediaWiki experience. Thanks! -- Chris Watkins Appropedia.org - Sharing knowledge to build rich, sustainable lives. ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l -- Chris Watkins Appropedia.org - Sharing knowledge to build rich, sustainable lives. ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] Is there a Wikimedia Melbourne Meetup this Sunday 21 July?
From past announcements it seems that there's a Wikimedia meetup at 11am on the fourth Sunday of each month - which would mean this coming Sunday. Is that right? I'm staying in the boondocks (Seaford - lovely but a bit far from interesting stuff) and I'd like to plan ahead. Thanks! -- Chris Watkins Appropedia.org - Sharing knowledge to build rich, sustainable lives. ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] WikiAcademy Ingham starting today.
WikiAcademy Ingham is happening now - participants are about to start their pages, and these will be added here (probably before lunch): Wikipedia:GLAM/SLQ/19 April 2012https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM/SLQ/19_April_2012 (Related changeshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:RecentChangesLinked/Wikipedia:GLAM/SLQ ) Thanks for supporting these new Wikipedians! -- Chris Watkins Appropedia.org - Sharing knowledge to build rich, sustainable lives. ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] WikiAcademy Ingham starting today.
There are a few pages to check now. Thanks to those who have been helping. On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 10:56, Chris Watkins chriswater...@appropedia.orgwrote: WikiAcademy Ingham is happening now - participants are about to start their pages, and these will be added here (probably before lunch): Wikipedia:GLAM/SLQ/19 April 2012https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM/SLQ/19_April_2012 (Related changeshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:RecentChangesLinked/Wikipedia:GLAM/SLQ ) Thanks for supporting these new Wikipedians! -- Chris Watkins Appropedia.org - Sharing knowledge to build rich, sustainable lives. -- Chris Watkins Appropedia.org - Sharing knowledge to build rich, sustainable lives. ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] WikiAcademy is go. New pages will appear here...
WikiAcademy in Townsville will be starting soon - new draft pages created by participants will be listed at the following link. Expect to see some action in a bit over an hour (after 11 AEST): *Wikipedia:GLAM/SLQ/17 April 2012*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM/SLQ/17_April_2012 Your help in improving the pages will be welcome. You might like to monitor *Related changes*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:RecentChangesLinked/Wikipedia:GLAM/SLQ/17_April_2012 . Thank you! -- Chris Watkins Appropedia.org - Sharing knowledge to build rich, sustainable lives. ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
