[Wikimediaindia-l] Mailing list for Odia wiki projects is created-Interested Odia contributors pls participate!

2011-02-28 Thread Subhashish Panigrahi
Hi,

I am Subhashish Panigrahi from Odia (Oriya) WIkipedia, a new mail list has
been created, anyone who want to take part can join the mail list at
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-or

You can take part in the contribution of content for Odia Wikipedia please
go to http://or.wikipedia.org and sign up and start adding good articles.

Thanks and regards
ସୁଭ ପା / Subhashish  Panigrahi
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Recent Tamil Wiki outreach efforts

2011-02-28 Thread Shiju Alex
Excellent initiative from Tamil wiki community. It is a welcome sign to see
that Indic wiki communities have taken the wiki advocacy programs very
seriously. Bengali wikimedians are also doing many programs in WB and
Bangladesh.


We can't expect that every new workshop will bring immediate editors.


Accroding to me when we introduce a language wiki to 50 people, if 5 of them
start editing in wiki then our program is a grand success. The other 45 will
have fundamental knowledge about wiki projects. They will help us in various
ways later.

Also do not expect immediate result. As Ravi said, the inspiration to edit
in wiki can come in various ways.



* Besides attracting new editors, it helps build rapport among existing
 editors.


Very much true. These type of programs will give more responsibility and
ownership to moderately active editors. Many of them will take initiatives
to do innovative things for wiki community.



2010 is a significant growth year for us and the growth rate in terms of
 daily edits, new editors, active editors has almost doubled in last 6
 months. We believe that these workshops and other outreach efforts done
 before helped us achieve this in some way :)


Yes, This is very much true in the case of Malayalam wiki community also. We
should have stated these type of programs at least 2 or 3 years before. Hope
we will have a much better year in 2011.

Shiju Alex




On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Just a quick update on recent Tamil Wiki outreach efforts:

 In the last 60 days, Tamil Wikipedians conducted 7 workshops / meetups.

 1. December 28, 2010 - Mattakkalappu, SriLanka. First organized Wiki meetup
 in SriLanka where Tamil is an official language and has millions of Tamils.

 2. January 15, 2010 - Chennai, India. On the occasion of Ten Wiki.

 3. January 16, 2010 - Toronto, Canada. The city has Srilankan Tamil
 population in lakhs. There were smaller / informal Tamil Wiki intros in this
 city even before this. Two of the most active Tamil Wikipedians reside in
 Canada.

 4. February 6, 2010 - Chennai, India.

 5. February 20, 2010 - Trichy, India.

 6. February 20, 2010 - Puduchery, India. First Wiki event in this Union
 Territory of India. Tamil is an official language here and has Tamil
 population in Lakhs.

 7. February 26, 2010 - Coimbatore, India. (Students only event)

 The next workshop is planned for March 6, 2010 near Trichy, India.

 Pictures from these events can be seen at the sidebar links at

 http://bit.ly/gveSnh

 Some thoughts:

 * Malayalam Wikians had such series of workshops all over recently and that
 was certainly an inspiration for us. And that is the reason we share our
 experience now for others.

 * First few workshops happened in 2009. It was hard to arrange and
 frequency was less. But once we start doing, we learn things, share
 resources and get more people involved.

 * We can't expect that every new workshop will bring immediate editors. I
 have seen people starting editing after they keep hearing about Wiki
 everywhere and often. So, this can be approached like an ad campaign. No one
 runs to shop after seeing the ad. But it works later. Infact, we got a very
 active editor after he listened to the event's audio recording posted. He
 was in Mumbai and the event happened in Chennai. So it is always good to
 document the events as much.

 * Besides attracting new editors, it helps build rapport among existing
 editors. New editors who attend the event are delighted by the friendship /
 collaborative spirit by other editors. This gives them a sense of ownership
 / belonging for the project and start editing more and taking part in
 organizing future events. One of our most active editor now is an English
 Wikipedian who participated in a Tamil Wiki workshop. In his own words,
 after seeing people's happiness to have content in Tamil, he started editing
 Tamil Wikipedia more.

 * People want to see faces and hear words directly. They are convinced in
 person even if we have the same FAQ in Wikipedia website. When we give the
 demo, they also learn that it is not so easy to edit as they thought.

 * People who attend these workshops get impressed and invite us  to conduct
 workshop in their colleges / city and they arrange the venue and other
 resources too. So, even though arranging first few events may be difficult,
 later more people help.

 * Participating in bigger events like book fairs, internet fairs, FOSS
 fairs can only give limited scope to introduce in a very basic way to fast
 moving crowd. But it is a good opportunity for Wikimedians to network with
 key people working in other knowledge forums and certainly helps in
 promoting the Wikipedia brand. More on this later.

 * 2010 is a significant growth year for us and the growth rate in terms of
 daily edits, new editors, active editors has almost doubled in last 6
 months. We believe that these workshops and other outreach efforts done

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Mailing list for Odia wiki projects is created-Interested Odia contributors pls participate!

2011-02-28 Thread शंतनू
Thinking... Why not have 'od.wikipedia.org' instead of 'or.wikipedia.org'?

On 28-Feb-2011, at 2:01 PM, Subhashish Panigrahi wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I am Subhashish Panigrahi from Odia (Oriya) WIkipedia, a new mail list has 
 been created, anyone who want to take part can join the mail list at 
 https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-or
 
 You can take part in the contribution of content for Odia Wikipedia please go 
 to http://or.wikipedia.org and sign up and start adding good articles.
 
 Thanks and regards
 ସୁଭ ପା / Subhashish  Panigrahi
 ଆସ ଓଡ଼ିଆ ଉଇକିକୁ ଆଗେଇନେବା


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[Wikimediaindia-l] Reading Wikipedia on your mobile phone

2011-02-28 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi,
I blogged about using the mobile phone for the Indian languages. What I
learned is that some languages need to invest some time in order to get the
mobile interface to work for them. Please check out to what extend your
language is supported. ( xx.m.wikipedia.org where xx is your language code).
Thanks,
  GerardM

http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com/2011/02/supporting-mobile-phones-in-india.html
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Mailing list for Odia wiki projects is created-Interested Odia contributors pls participate!

2011-02-28 Thread Casey Brown
2011/2/28 शंतनू shanta...@gmail.com:
 Thinking... Why not have 'od.wikipedia.org' instead of 'or.wikipedia.org'?


We use the ISO 639-1 codes for representing the different languages in
our projects.  The ISO code for the Oriya language is or.

For more information, see:
* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oriya_language
* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_639-1

-- 
Casey Brown
Cbrown1023

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[Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs: Update

2011-02-28 Thread hisham mundol

Dear Folks,

I'm writing to update you on the community meets held last week.  (I had 
visited Mumbai, Pune and Bangalore along with Barry.)


First of all, thank you to everyone who came over.  Appreciate your time 
and also the educative, informative, engaging and wide-ranging 
discussions we had.  I look forward to carrying on these conversations 
going forward.  I also look forward to meeting up with the community 
across a wider set of towns and cities.


I also wanted to share some initial thoughts that I had.

a) Communication

   I think it will be useful to open a regular channel of
   communication.  My current thinking is that this could be in the
   form of a monthly IRC, as well as periodic emails (probably once a
   fortnight, but more or less frequently depending on relevance.) 
   Would be good to get your thoughts.  Also, would 8pm (India time)

   for 1 hour on the first Thursday of every month work well for the IRC?

   In addition to the above, my contact details are the bottom of this
   mail.  Do feel free to reach out; I'd love to hear from you.

b) Outreach

   A lot of the discussions that we had were centered around outreach
   activities.  There were 3 stories that I thought were particularly
   insightful which I wanted to share with you.

   * A 67 year old gentleman in Chembur (Mumbai) heard about
 Wikipedia in Kannada from a Wikimedian.  He started
 contributing because he thought it would be an novel way of
 spending his free time.  He said that it now keeps him
 occupied doing something that interests him - and it has
 reignited his family's respect for him.

   * A young student of Symbiosis in Pune said he discovered that
 he could edit while playing an online computer game - when
 some Japanese gamers told him how he could pitch in and
 contribute articles on the game's characters.

   * A young guy in Bangalore spoke about how a friend of his
 attended the 10th do - and came back and told him that he
 could contribute articles in Oriya.  He's started contributing.

   These 3 stories are familiar to many of you, and they are but 3 of
   100s if not 1000s of similarly awesome tales.  They are also
   illustrative of the kind of impact that outreach has.  Personally, I
   found them both inspiring and thought-provoking.  Here's what they
   have triggered in my head.  (...and I must confess I have more
   questions than answers right now!)

   * Outreach takes time and effort.  Given that it conducted by
 volunteers such as yourselves, there's always going to be
 limits to how much you can be devote; you all have day
 jobs/personal lives to lead.  Therefore, how can we improve
 the odds of impact?  It starts of with saying every single
 outreach activity must be regarded as precious and every
 attempt must be made to help realize the fullest potential of
 the initiative.  If that's the philosophy, then how does one
 better understand the audience and, therefore, calibrate
 messages as appropriately as possible.  (Also, and this is
 from my personal experience in community mobilization and
 outreach messaging, it's very easy to get tempted into
 providing multiple messages.  ...even more so when it comes to
 Wikimedia when there are so many incredible stories to tell. 
 ...but audiences very rarely take out more than 1 or 2 key

 points.) /Given this, how does one identify and focus on these
 key messages?  For instance, should the message be different
 when talking to IT versus arts students?  Should the tone of
 the message be different when talking to 18 years olds as
 opposed to 30 year olds?  Can outreach kits be developed?  Can
 these include some kind of capability building?/

   * Outreach requires a feedback loop.  Currently, while outreach
 is happening frequently and widely, it is physically difficult
 to stay in touch after the event. (I heard about an event in
 Trichy where 65 people attended.  It'd be physically
 impossible for one or two individuals to regular communicate
 with all of them.) /Is there a way that we can open some kind
 of simple and low-resource channel to stay in touch with
 people who have attended outreach meets.  This feedback loop
 could potentially include what message they took out from the
 event, whether that got them going to start contributing (and
 if not, why), and if they started, how things were going.  Can
 this be done online in some manner?  How do the results get
 shared with those who conducted the outreach?/

   * Potential contributors are everywhere.  They're not only in IT
 colleges, though these are significant.  Anecdotally, I
 suspect there 

[Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [Foundation-l] New members of Language committee

2011-02-28 Thread CherianTinu Abraham
Congratulations and Best wishes to Santhosh Thottingal !

Regards
Tinu Cherian

-- Forwarded message --
From: Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 10:49 PM
Subject: [Foundation-l] New members of Language committee
To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundatio...@lists.wikimedia.org


I am glad to announce that Language committee is stronger for three
new members. By the time of getting their applications, the list is:

Ζαχαρίας Διακονικολάου (Zaharias Diakonikolau) (meta:User:ZaDiak)
* languages spoken: el, en-4, de-2, grc-2, pnt-1
* living in: Europe, Greece, Rhodes
* reason for inclusion: A couple of months ago Language committee
announced that it is searching for members from the [types of]
projects which don't have Wikipedia-like dynamics. Zaharias has passed
as an applicant from Wikiversity (he is admin at Beta Wikiversity and
bureaucrat at Greek Wikiversity). However, his qualifications go
further: he is actively working on creation, editing and promoting
projects in various Greek languages. Knowing that he is young, he will
be our long term investment, too.

Oliver Stegen]] (meta:User:Baba Tabita)
* languages spoken: de, en-4, sw-3 small style=color:gray;nl-1,
fr-1/small
* living in: Africa, Kenya, Nairobi (from Europe, Germany)
* reason for inclusion: Oliver is a linguist who is working for SIL on
East African languages. We'll have one ultra-relevant expert in
LangCom thanks to Jon Harald Søby, one of the LangCom members, who met
Oliver in Nairobi.

Santhosh Thottingal]] (meta:User:Santhosh.thottingal)
* languages spoken: ml, hi-3, en-3, ta-2,
* living in: Asia, India, Chennai (Madras)
* reason for inclusion: Santhosh is a free software guru interested in
languages. He will help us in articulating projects for covering
language-related needs of Wikimedia projects.

I want to add one more point related to Santhosh. He has passed as a
LangCom member not because he is from India, but because he has
relevant expertise and right attitude. Although he speaks three Indian
languages, he has become a member of LangCom because he is a free
software guru interested in languages. Before Santhosh's application,
we would have been happy to see anyone with this qualification and
this attitude, no matter of location of birth or residence.

However, Bishakha's question and subsequent conversation helped, as it
gave impulse to Santhosh to submit the application. And that brings to
my mind that it would be good to pass the whole world periodically and
raise the geographical equality issue. And it is not a joke. That's
obviously giving people courage, or at least the idea, that they have
the same right to become members of any Wikimedia body, as any
Westerner has. Sometimes the qualifications won't be relevant for
particular position, sometimes they will.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Recent Tamil Wiki outreach efforts

2011-02-28 Thread CherianTinu Abraham
Good job Ravi and Tamil Wiki community. Glad to see lots of good activities
and outreach around Tamil Wiki.
Would love to see such enthusiasm from other language Wiki communities too.

Regards
Tinu Cherian

On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Just a quick update on recent Tamil Wiki outreach efforts:

 In the last 60 days, Tamil Wikipedians conducted 7 workshops / meetups.

 1. December 28, 2010 - Mattakkalappu, SriLanka. First organized Wiki meetup
 in SriLanka where Tamil is an official language and has millions of Tamils.

 2. January 15, 2010 - Chennai, India. On the occasion of Ten Wiki.

 3. January 16, 2010 - Toronto, Canada. The city has Srilankan Tamil
 population in lakhs. There were smaller / informal Tamil Wiki intros in this
 city even before this. Two of the most active Tamil Wikipedians reside in
 Canada.

 4. February 6, 2010 - Chennai, India.

 5. February 20, 2010 - Trichy, India.

 6. February 20, 2010 - Puduchery, India. First Wiki event in this Union
 Territory of India. Tamil is an official language here and has Tamil
 population in Lakhs.

 7. February 26, 2010 - Coimbatore, India. (Students only event)

 The next workshop is planned for March 6, 2010 near Trichy, India.

 Pictures from these events can be seen at the sidebar links at

 http://bit.ly/gveSnh

 Some thoughts:

 * Malayalam Wikians had such series of workshops all over recently and that
 was certainly an inspiration for us. And that is the reason we share our
 experience now for others.

 * First few workshops happened in 2009. It was hard to arrange and
 frequency was less. But once we start doing, we learn things, share
 resources and get more people involved.

 * We can't expect that every new workshop will bring immediate editors. I
 have seen people starting editing after they keep hearing about Wiki
 everywhere and often. So, this can be approached like an ad campaign. No one
 runs to shop after seeing the ad. But it works later. Infact, we got a very
 active editor after he listened to the event's audio recording posted. He
 was in Mumbai and the event happened in Chennai. So it is always good to
 document the events as much.

 * Besides attracting new editors, it helps build rapport among existing
 editors. New editors who attend the event are delighted by the friendship /
 collaborative spirit by other editors. This gives them a sense of ownership
 / belonging for the project and start editing more and taking part in
 organizing future events. One of our most active editor now is an English
 Wikipedian who participated in a Tamil Wiki workshop. In his own words,
 after seeing people's happiness to have content in Tamil, he started editing
 Tamil Wikipedia more.

 * People want to see faces and hear words directly. They are convinced in
 person even if we have the same FAQ in Wikipedia website. When we give the
 demo, they also learn that it is not so easy to edit as they thought.

 * People who attend these workshops get impressed and invite us  to conduct
 workshop in their colleges / city and they arrange the venue and other
 resources too. So, even though arranging first few events may be difficult,
 later more people help.

 * Participating in bigger events like book fairs, internet fairs, FOSS
 fairs can only give limited scope to introduce in a very basic way to fast
 moving crowd. But it is a good opportunity for Wikimedians to network with
 key people working in other knowledge forums and certainly helps in
 promoting the Wikipedia brand. More on this later.

 * 2010 is a significant growth year for us and the growth rate in terms of
 daily edits, new editors, active editors has almost doubled in last 6
 months. We believe that these workshops and other outreach efforts done
 before helped us achieve this in some way :)

 Ravi



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