[Wikimediaindia-l] Regarding Postage Stamps upload in Commons

2011-04-28 Thread Subhashish Panigrahi
Hi everyone,

Here
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Madhu_babu_%28Madhusudan_Das%29.jpgis
a Postage stamp of Madhusudan
Dashttp://or.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%AC%AE%E0%AC%A7%E0%AD%81%E0%AC%B8%E0%AD%82%E0%AC%A6%E0%AC%A8_%E0%AC%A6%E0%AC%BE%E0%AC%B8which
was tagged for deletion, Can anyone please help me about this? What's
the policy for uploading Indian Postage stamps in Wikipedia/Commons?

And recently I have gone through few regional language Wikis where the
actual facts are changed.
P.S. the English article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jayadeva here and
the Bengali article
here.http://bn.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A6%9C%E0%A6%AF%E0%A6%BC%E0%A6%A6%E0%A7%87%E0%A6%ACWhen
the English article clearly states that at the end of the controversy
historians and researchers have come to an inference that Kavi Jayadeva was
from Odisha there not a single line which says the same in Bengali
Wikipedia. In this situation I would like to ask what would be the
credibility of an article from an user's prospectives, is he going to get
the right and valid info from a regional Wikipedia?

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Regarding Postage Stamps upload in Commons

2011-04-28 Thread Bala Jeyaraman
Hi Subhashish,

Stamps are Indian govt works and retain copyright for 60 years after issual.
So image of any stamp issued after 1951 cannot be uploaded to commons. It
should be uploaded to the local wiki with a fair use rationale. (and under
fairuse, a stamp cannot be used to identify the subject like a infobox
picture, it can only illustrate the fact that a stamp was issued on the
subject and the line should be in the text for that to happen)

regards
Bala

On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Subhashish Panigrahi psubhash...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi everyone,

 Here
 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Madhu_babu_%28Madhusudan_Das%29.jpgis
 a Postage stamp of Madhusudan 
 Dashttp://or.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%AC%AE%E0%AC%A7%E0%AD%81%E0%AC%B8%E0%AD%82%E0%AC%A6%E0%AC%A8_%E0%AC%A6%E0%AC%BE%E0%AC%B8which
  was tagged for deletion, Can anyone please help me about this? What's
 the policy for uploading Indian Postage stamps in Wikipedia/Commons?

 And recently I have gone through few regional language Wikis where the
 actual facts are changed.
 P.S. the English article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jayadeva here and
 the Bengali article 
 here.http://bn.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A6%9C%E0%A6%AF%E0%A6%BC%E0%A6%A6%E0%A7%87%E0%A6%ACWhen
  the English article clearly states that at the end of the controversy
 historians and researchers have come to an inference that Kavi Jayadeva was
 from Odisha there not a single line which says the same in Bengali
 Wikipedia. In this situation I would like to ask what would be the
 credibility of an article from an user's prospectives, is he going to get
 the right and valid info from a regional Wikipedia?

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Regarding Postage Stamps upload in Commons

2011-04-28 Thread Shiju Alex
I will answer the first question (regarding stamps)

Here
 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Madhu_babu_%28Madhusudan_Das%29.jpgis
 a Postage stamp of Madhusudan 
 Dashttp://or.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%AC%AE%E0%AC%A7%E0%AD%81%E0%AC%B8%E0%AD%82%E0%AC%A6%E0%AC%A8_%E0%AC%A6%E0%AC%BE%E0%AC%B8which
  was tagged for deletion, Can anyone please help me about this? What's
 the policy for uploading Indian Postage stamps in Wikipedia/Commons?


The deletion tag is appeared because you have used Non-free media
rationalehttp://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Madhu_babu_%28Madhusudan_Das%29.jpgdiff=prevoldid=53687542.
Commons won't permit non-free images. You need to use proper license.

Need to cross the license used in similar stamps.



On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Subhashish Panigrahi 
psubhash...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi everyone,

 Here
 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Madhu_babu_%28Madhusudan_Das%29.jpgis
 a Postage stamp of Madhusudan 
 Dashttp://or.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%AC%AE%E0%AC%A7%E0%AD%81%E0%AC%B8%E0%AD%82%E0%AC%A6%E0%AC%A8_%E0%AC%A6%E0%AC%BE%E0%AC%B8which
  was tagged for deletion, Can anyone please help me about this? What's
 the policy for uploading Indian Postage stamps in Wikipedia/Commons?

 And recently I have gone through few regional language Wikis where the
 actual facts are changed.
 P.S. the English article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jayadeva here and
 the Bengali article 
 here.http://bn.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A6%9C%E0%A6%AF%E0%A6%BC%E0%A6%A6%E0%A7%87%E0%A6%ACWhen
  the English article clearly states that at the end of the controversy
 historians and researchers have come to an inference that Kavi Jayadeva was
 from Odisha there not a single line which says the same in Bengali
 Wikipedia. In this situation I would like to ask what would be the
 credibility of an article from an user's prospectives, is he going to get
 the right and valid info from a regional Wikipedia?

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Regarding Postage Stamps upload in Commons

2011-04-28 Thread Bala Jeyaraman
Yes it applies to coins as well. Anything from  pre 1951 India is in PD.
Anything post 1951, GOI has the copyright.

But even for old coins, if you take a photo of a single coin you cant claim
copyright and add a CC SA 3.0 license (its like taking a photo of a old
painting and claiming copyright). it has to be added with a PD licence.

But i believe if you take a photo of an arrangement of coins (two and more),
it becomes a  new creative work and you can claim copyright as the
photographer (i am not sure on this, just recollecting what i read in old
deletion discussions in en wiki and commons). Please confirm with editors
like moonriddengirl in en wiki (who are much more familiar with tricky
situations like this)

-
Bala

On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 9:47 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan 
rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote:

 Bala,
 I had a question.
 Does this apply to Coin as well?
 I have a bunch of coins of 1862, 1900, 1907, 1919, 1941, and one of Post
 Independence.
 I want to know if this is a problem.
 Also, can I licence it under the standard Creative 
 Commonshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:Creative_Commons Attribution-Share
 Alike 3.0 Unported http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/deed.en,
 which I use for all my photographs?
 --Regards,
 Srikanth Ramakrishnan


 On 28 April 2011 21:16, Bala Jeyaraman sodabot...@gmail.com wrote:

 The date of issual needs to be mentioned in the summary. Rest looks fine.

 On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Subhashish Panigrahi 
 psubhash...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks a lot for the info.

 Here are the two pics. 
 *1http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Stamp_on_Madhu_babu_%28Madhusudan_Das%29.jpg
 *and 
 *2*http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Madhu_babu_%28Madhusudan_Das%29.jpg
 If there is any issue with the license and other details pls help me.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] 1 user. 20 hours. 300 articles

2011-04-28 Thread Bala Jeyaraman
I would like to add, that the user in question, asked the community's views
(well in advance), that if it was ok to undertake such an effort. And there
were other editors (including me), constantly checking, proofing,
recategorising and maintaining the articles created. This was no slapdash
effort. As the articles concerned were start class, we were able to monitor
them easily. At least seven persons were involved in this effort - this was
no slap dash mass article creation spree.

It was a community effort and the tamil wiki community (which is very
conservative when it comes to article size and bulk creation) was
unanimously behind this effort. I dont know whether we will be able to
duplicate it again, but we will certainly be encouraging such cooperative
work in the future.

-
Bala

On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 10:08 PM, Holalkere Laxmivenkatesh 
hrl.venkat...@gmail.com wrote:

 Creating 300 articles in 3 weeks... such news should make us
 to introspect ; surely should not be encouraged !

 Once the news used be like this.  Dr. Modi performed many eye
 operations ... In my opinion although Dr. Modi was a great eye surgeon, and
 a great soul-still as for the Eye Operations are concerned he might have not
 made justice to his profession. This job is not like crushing sugar cane
 crop !

 The above views are mine. I don't care whether any one agrees or not !
 -Venkatesh

 On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Tamil Wikipedia added another 1,000+ articles in the last 3 weeks.

 Behind this is a remarkable story of 1 user who created 300 articles
 organically in 20 hours.

 P.M.Puniyameen ( http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/user:P.M.Puniyameen ) from
 Srilanka is a retired academician, prolific writer and independent
 journalist. He started contributing to Tamil Wikipedia from November 2010.
 In the short span of 5 months he has added 2000+ articles.

 He set himself a target creating 200 articles on 20th April but ended up
 creating 300 articles in 20 hours. He was helped by his wife, daughter and
 two colleagues in typing the articles which were mainly info based articles
 on cricketers, small magazines. Earlier, he even created articles from his
 bed when he was in a medical rest.

 Thought of sharing this story as it is inspiring to see people working
 with so much dedication, mobilising people and resources for Wikipedia.

 Regards,

 Ravi

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Regarding Postage Stamps uploaded in Commons - Correct picture

2011-04-28 Thread Gautam John
Hi Ashwin:

 So it is completely incorrect to add any images of Indian stamps printed
 later than 1951 to Commons. Fair use rationale is not applicable under
 Indian law to the best of my knowledge, anyway with that it cant be loaded
 to Commons only concerned Wikipedia. And unless the article is about that
 particular stamp, fair use rationale won't work.

I am not sure why you would say that. The Copyright Act has a fairly
extensive section on Fair Dealing. Section 52 will be of interest.

http://copyright.gov.in/Documents/CopyrightRules1957.pdf

You might find that it would fit within a few of those.

- Gautam

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