Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India chapter - Executive Committee Elections 2011

[Arjuna Rao Chavala]

On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Adethya Sudarsanan
wrote:

> Hi fellow wiki'ers,
>
> Can you please how to nominate myself for the posts..
>
This is open only for Chapter members.
If you have become  wikimedia chapter member, you would have received the
call for nominations with instructions.  In case you did not get the same,
please contact Chapter at chap...@wikimedia.in with your membership
number/application details.

If you would like to enroll as a member, please check out
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Membership-FAQ

Cheers
Arjun
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India chapter - Executive Committee Elections 2011

[Adethya Sudarsanan]

Hi fellow wiki'ers,

Can you please how to nominate myself for the posts..

Thanks in advance,
Adethya. S

On 27 August 2011 11:28, Arjuna Rao Chavala  wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 9:23 AM, CherianTinu Abraham <
> tinucher...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have also requested the election committee and the current Exec team to
>> also publish the electoral roll too on the members wiki . This might help to
>> well wishers to appeal to the good candidates to stand for the elections and
>> help lead the Wikimedia movement.
>
>
> Thanks for sharing your concern.  As of now, there has been some more
> nominations.   The right forums for EC elections discussions are members
> wiki  (http://members.wikimedia.in) and  members mailing list. (<
> wmin-memb...@googlegroups.com>
>
> I request all the well wishers who are members to use the same. If any
> member has access issues, the same could be brought to Chapter's notice.
>
> Cheers
> Arjun
>
>>
>> -TC
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Theo10011  wrote:
>>
>>> Gautam and the organizing committee for the election, it might make sense
>>> in extending the last date for nomination.
>>>
>>> The window for nomination hasn't been open for long, it might make sense
>>> in extending it for a while so more Wikimedians can hear about it.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Theo
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 8:40 AM, CherianTinu Abraham <
>>> tinucher...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Please note that the *last date of nominations* for Executive Committee
 Elections 2011 of Wikimedia India chapter is *Aug 29, 2011*

 With less than 3 days to go for the last date of nominations, there were
 just 2 nominations for the 3 vacant posts.

 This is very disappointing and concerning for the future of Wikimedia
 Chapter India.

 I sincerely appeal to the veteran Wikipedians / Wikimedians of India to
 come forward and help grow the chapter.

 Regards
 Tinu Cherian

 On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Gautam John 
 wrote:

> Dear All:
>
> We have instituted a monthly call between the India Chapter and the
> Wikimedia Foundation.  Members of the Chapter EC, Hisham and Asaf Bartov
> (who heads up Global South Relationships at the Foundation) will 
> participate
> in this call.  The objective of the call is to share information and 
> improve
> collaboration between the Chapter and the Foundation on various Wikimedia
> projects of relevance to India.  We had the first one on Aug 24, 2011, and
> here's a quick update.
>
> *Chapter Update*
>
>- 30 persons attended the workshop on Copyright and Open Licensing
>conducted on 30th July 2011 in Bangalore, which was well received.
>
> http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Events/Copyright_and_Open_Licensing_SeminarPlan
>- Plan to conduct 1st WikiAcademy with the Department of Public
>Libraries, Karnataka for their senior Library professionals on 12 Sep 
> 2011.
>- Membership currently stands at ~80
>- Participation from community on some projects but the response is
>below expectations. Chapter hopes that the response will improve as 
> more
>activities are taken up by Chapter in the near future.
>- AGM will be conducted on September 24 2011.  Elections process
> for EC vacancies has been initiated.
>- Process for applying for FCRA prior permission has been actioned
>with necessary steps being taken with local banks, consultants and the 
> WMF.
>The bank account required for FCRA is ready. The draft of letter from 
> WMF
>will be finalized in a week by Chapter Accountant and Advisor (another
>prerequisite) and then FCRA application will be submitted. 3-4 months 
> are
>required for approval by Home Ministry, Government of India.
>
> *Foundation Update*
>
>- Education Program is doing well from a numbers perspective - with
>more than 1000 students involved.  However, there is a great deal of 
> effort
>required to continue to support and enable and motivate these students.
>Additional Campus Ambassadors are being selected from the participating
>institutions.  Hisham requested that everyone reach out and be 
> encouraging
>to the Campus Ambassadors, students and teachers.
>- 2 new staff members selected; Nitika has joined & Shiju will be
>joining by October
>- Initial conversations were being sought with leading mobile
>companies to explore Wikipedia on mobile
>- Independent public trust to be set up hopefully by next week,
>followed by FCRA prior permission and other approvals required for tax
>exemption, etc.
>
> *Collaboration on future projects*
>
> Some requests from colleges to participate in campus ambassador
> like program  were received b

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India chapter - Executive Committee Elections 2011

[Arjuna Rao Chavala]

On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 9:23 AM, CherianTinu Abraham
wrote:

> I have also requested the election committee and the current Exec team to
> also publish the electoral roll too on the members wiki . This might help to
> well wishers to appeal to the good candidates to stand for the elections and
> help lead the Wikimedia movement.


Thanks for sharing your concern.  As of now, there has been some more
nominations.   The right forums for EC elections discussions are members
wiki  (http://members.wikimedia.in) and  members mailing list. (<
wmin-memb...@googlegroups.com>

I request all the well wishers who are members to use the same. If any
member has access issues, the same could be brought to Chapter's notice.

Cheers
Arjun

>
> -TC
>
> On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Theo10011  wrote:
>
>> Gautam and the organizing committee for the election, it might make sense
>> in extending the last date for nomination.
>>
>> The window for nomination hasn't been open for long, it might make sense
>> in extending it for a while so more Wikimedians can hear about it.
>>
>> Regards
>> Theo
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 8:40 AM, CherianTinu Abraham <
>> tinucher...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Please note that the *last date of nominations* for Executive Committee
>>> Elections 2011 of Wikimedia India chapter is *Aug 29, 2011*
>>>
>>> With less than 3 days to go for the last date of nominations, there were
>>> just 2 nominations for the 3 vacant posts.
>>>
>>> This is very disappointing and concerning for the future of Wikimedia
>>> Chapter India.
>>>
>>> I sincerely appeal to the veteran Wikipedians / Wikimedians of India to
>>> come forward and help grow the chapter.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Tinu Cherian
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Gautam John 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Dear All:

 We have instituted a monthly call between the India Chapter and the
 Wikimedia Foundation.  Members of the Chapter EC, Hisham and Asaf Bartov
 (who heads up Global South Relationships at the Foundation) will 
 participate
 in this call.  The objective of the call is to share information and 
 improve
 collaboration between the Chapter and the Foundation on various Wikimedia
 projects of relevance to India.  We had the first one on Aug 24, 2011, and
 here's a quick update.

 *Chapter Update*

- 30 persons attended the workshop on Copyright and Open Licensing
conducted on 30th July 2011 in Bangalore, which was well received.
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Events/Copyright_and_Open_Licensing_SeminarPlan
- Plan to conduct 1st WikiAcademy with the Department of Public
Libraries, Karnataka for their senior Library professionals on 12 Sep 
 2011.
- Membership currently stands at ~80
- Participation from community on some projects but the response is
below expectations. Chapter hopes that the response will improve as more
activities are taken up by Chapter in the near future.
- AGM will be conducted on September 24 2011.  Elections process
 for EC vacancies has been initiated.
- Process for applying for FCRA prior permission has been actioned
with necessary steps being taken with local banks, consultants and the 
 WMF.
The bank account required for FCRA is ready. The draft of letter from 
 WMF
will be finalized in a week by Chapter Accountant and Advisor (another
prerequisite) and then FCRA application will be submitted. 3-4 months 
 are
required for approval by Home Ministry, Government of India.

 *Foundation Update*

- Education Program is doing well from a numbers perspective - with
more than 1000 students involved.  However, there is a great deal of 
 effort
required to continue to support and enable and motivate these students.
Additional Campus Ambassadors are being selected from the participating
institutions.  Hisham requested that everyone reach out and be 
 encouraging
to the Campus Ambassadors, students and teachers.
- 2 new staff members selected; Nitika has joined & Shiju will be
joining by October
- Initial conversations were being sought with leading mobile
companies to explore Wikipedia on mobile
- Independent public trust to be set up hopefully by next week,
followed by FCRA prior permission and other approvals required for tax
exemption, etc.

 *Collaboration on future projects*

 Some requests from colleges to participate in campus ambassador
 like program  were received by the chapter and Hisham. Hisham said that 
 till
 the ongoing program is stable, he will not be able to roll it to other
 cities. He suggested  that colleges can get  started by forming  student
 clubs and Foundation staff are providing necessary information and
 assistance for the same. He also requested

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India chapter - Executive Committee Elections 2011

[CherianTinu Abraham]

I have also requested the election committee and the current Exec team to
also publish the electoral roll too on the members wiki . This might help to
well wishers to appeal to the good candidates to stand for the elections and
help lead the Wikimedia movement.

-TC

On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Theo10011  wrote:

> Gautam and the organizing committee for the election, it might make sense
> in extending the last date for nomination.
>
> The window for nomination hasn't been open for long, it might make sense in
> extending it for a while so more Wikimedians can hear about it.
>
> Regards
> Theo
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 8:40 AM, CherianTinu Abraham <
> tinucher...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Please note that the *last date of nominations* for Executive Committee
>> Elections 2011 of Wikimedia India chapter is *Aug 29, 2011*
>>
>> With less than 3 days to go for the last date of nominations, there were
>> just 2 nominations for the 3 vacant posts.
>>
>> This is very disappointing and concerning for the future of Wikimedia
>> Chapter India.
>>
>> I sincerely appeal to the veteran Wikipedians / Wikimedians of India to
>> come forward and help grow the chapter.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tinu Cherian
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Gautam John wrote:
>>
>>> Dear All:
>>>
>>> We have instituted a monthly call between the India Chapter and the
>>> Wikimedia Foundation.  Members of the Chapter EC, Hisham and Asaf Bartov
>>> (who heads up Global South Relationships at the Foundation) will participate
>>> in this call.  The objective of the call is to share information and improve
>>> collaboration between the Chapter and the Foundation on various Wikimedia
>>> projects of relevance to India.  We had the first one on Aug 24, 2011, and
>>> here's a quick update.
>>>
>>> *Chapter Update*
>>>
>>>- 30 persons attended the workshop on Copyright and Open Licensing
>>>conducted on 30th July 2011 in Bangalore, which was well received.
>>>http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Events/Copyright_and_Open_Licensing_SeminarPlan
>>>- Plan to conduct 1st WikiAcademy with the Department of Public
>>>Libraries, Karnataka for their senior Library professionals on 12 Sep 
>>> 2011.
>>>- Membership currently stands at ~80
>>>- Participation from community on some projects but the response is
>>>below expectations. Chapter hopes that the response will improve as more
>>>activities are taken up by Chapter in the near future.
>>>- AGM will be conducted on September 24 2011.  Elections process  for
>>>EC vacancies has been initiated.
>>>- Process for applying for FCRA prior permission has been actioned
>>>with necessary steps being taken with local banks, consultants and the 
>>> WMF.
>>>The bank account required for FCRA is ready. The draft of letter from WMF
>>>will be finalized in a week by Chapter Accountant and Advisor (another
>>>prerequisite) and then FCRA application will be submitted. 3-4 months are
>>>required for approval by Home Ministry, Government of India.
>>>
>>> *Foundation Update*
>>>
>>>- Education Program is doing well from a numbers perspective - with
>>>more than 1000 students involved.  However, there is a great deal of 
>>> effort
>>>required to continue to support and enable and motivate these students.
>>>Additional Campus Ambassadors are being selected from the participating
>>>institutions.  Hisham requested that everyone reach out and be 
>>> encouraging
>>>to the Campus Ambassadors, students and teachers.
>>>- 2 new staff members selected; Nitika has joined & Shiju will be
>>>joining by October
>>>- Initial conversations were being sought with leading mobile
>>>companies to explore Wikipedia on mobile
>>>- Independent public trust to be set up hopefully by next week,
>>>followed by FCRA prior permission and other approvals required for tax
>>>exemption, etc.
>>>
>>> *Collaboration on future projects*
>>>
>>> Some requests from colleges to participate in campus ambassador
>>> like program  were received by the chapter and Hisham. Hisham said that till
>>> the ongoing program is stable, he will not be able to roll it to other
>>> cities. He suggested  that colleges can get  started by forming  student
>>> clubs and Foundation staff are providing necessary information and
>>> assistance for the same. He also requested Chapter EC to extend their
>>> support for the same.
>>>
>>> Chapter seeks active involvement in the elections and looks to grow its
>>> membership base and expand it's reach in encouraging the use
>>> and contributions to the Wikimedia movement in India.
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Gautam
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India chapter - Executive Committee Elections 2011

[Theo10011]

Gautam and the organizing committee for the election, it might make sense in
extending the last date for nomination.

The window for nomination hasn't been open for long, it might make sense in
extending it for a while so more Wikimedians can hear about it.

Regards
Theo

On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 8:40 AM, CherianTinu Abraham
wrote:

> Please note that the *last date of nominations* for Executive Committee
> Elections 2011 of Wikimedia India chapter is *Aug 29, 2011*
>
> With less than 3 days to go for the last date of nominations, there were
> just 2 nominations for the 3 vacant posts.
>
> This is very disappointing and concerning for the future of Wikimedia
> Chapter India.
>
> I sincerely appeal to the veteran Wikipedians / Wikimedians of India to
> come forward and help grow the chapter.
>
> Regards
> Tinu Cherian
>
> On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Gautam John wrote:
>
>> Dear All:
>>
>> We have instituted a monthly call between the India Chapter and the
>> Wikimedia Foundation.  Members of the Chapter EC, Hisham and Asaf Bartov
>> (who heads up Global South Relationships at the Foundation) will participate
>> in this call.  The objective of the call is to share information and improve
>> collaboration between the Chapter and the Foundation on various Wikimedia
>> projects of relevance to India.  We had the first one on Aug 24, 2011, and
>> here's a quick update.
>>
>> *Chapter Update*
>>
>>- 30 persons attended the workshop on Copyright and Open Licensing
>>conducted on 30th July 2011 in Bangalore, which was well received.
>>http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Events/Copyright_and_Open_Licensing_SeminarPlan
>>- Plan to conduct 1st WikiAcademy with the Department of Public
>>Libraries, Karnataka for their senior Library professionals on 12 Sep 
>> 2011.
>>- Membership currently stands at ~80
>>- Participation from community on some projects but the response is
>>below expectations. Chapter hopes that the response will improve as more
>>activities are taken up by Chapter in the near future.
>>- AGM will be conducted on September 24 2011.  Elections process  for
>>EC vacancies has been initiated.
>>- Process for applying for FCRA prior permission has been actioned
>>with necessary steps being taken with local banks, consultants and the 
>> WMF.
>>The bank account required for FCRA is ready. The draft of letter from WMF
>>will be finalized in a week by Chapter Accountant and Advisor (another
>>prerequisite) and then FCRA application will be submitted. 3-4 months are
>>required for approval by Home Ministry, Government of India.
>>
>> *Foundation Update*
>>
>>- Education Program is doing well from a numbers perspective - with
>>more than 1000 students involved.  However, there is a great deal of 
>> effort
>>required to continue to support and enable and motivate these students.
>>Additional Campus Ambassadors are being selected from the participating
>>institutions.  Hisham requested that everyone reach out and be encouraging
>>to the Campus Ambassadors, students and teachers.
>>- 2 new staff members selected; Nitika has joined & Shiju will be
>>joining by October
>>- Initial conversations were being sought with leading mobile
>>companies to explore Wikipedia on mobile
>>- Independent public trust to be set up hopefully by next week,
>>followed by FCRA prior permission and other approvals required for tax
>>exemption, etc.
>>
>> *Collaboration on future projects*
>>
>> Some requests from colleges to participate in campus ambassador
>> like program  were received by the chapter and Hisham. Hisham said that till
>> the ongoing program is stable, he will not be able to roll it to other
>> cities. He suggested  that colleges can get  started by forming  student
>> clubs and Foundation staff are providing necessary information and
>> assistance for the same. He also requested Chapter EC to extend their
>> support for the same.
>>
>> Chapter seeks active involvement in the elections and looks to grow its
>> membership base and expand it's reach in encouraging the use
>> and contributions to the Wikimedia movement in India.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Gautam
>>
>>
>>
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[Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India chapter - Executive Committee Elections 2011

[CherianTinu Abraham]

Please note that the *last date of nominations* for Executive Committee
Elections 2011 of Wikimedia India chapter is *Aug 29, 2011*

With less than 3 days to go for the last date of nominations, there were
just 2 nominations for the 3 vacant posts.

This is very disappointing and concerning for the future of Wikimedia
Chapter India.

I sincerely appeal to the veteran Wikipedians / Wikimedians of India to come
forward and help grow the chapter.

Regards
Tinu Cherian

On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Gautam John wrote:

> Dear All:
>
> We have instituted a monthly call between the India Chapter and the
> Wikimedia Foundation.  Members of the Chapter EC, Hisham and Asaf Bartov
> (who heads up Global South Relationships at the Foundation) will participate
> in this call.  The objective of the call is to share information and improve
> collaboration between the Chapter and the Foundation on various Wikimedia
> projects of relevance to India.  We had the first one on Aug 24, 2011, and
> here's a quick update.
>
> *Chapter Update*
>
>- 30 persons attended the workshop on Copyright and Open Licensing
>conducted on 30th July 2011 in Bangalore, which was well received.
>http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Events/Copyright_and_Open_Licensing_SeminarPlan
>- Plan to conduct 1st WikiAcademy with the Department of Public
>Libraries, Karnataka for their senior Library professionals on 12 Sep 2011.
>- Membership currently stands at ~80
>- Participation from community on some projects but the response is
>below expectations. Chapter hopes that the response will improve as more
>activities are taken up by Chapter in the near future.
>- AGM will be conducted on September 24 2011.  Elections process  for
>EC vacancies has been initiated.
>- Process for applying for FCRA prior permission has been actioned with
>necessary steps being taken with local banks, consultants and the WMF. The
>bank account required for FCRA is ready. The draft of letter from WMF will
>be finalized in a week by Chapter Accountant and Advisor (another
>prerequisite) and then FCRA application will be submitted. 3-4 months are
>required for approval by Home Ministry, Government of India.
>
> *Foundation Update*
>
>- Education Program is doing well from a numbers perspective - with
>more than 1000 students involved.  However, there is a great deal of effort
>required to continue to support and enable and motivate these students.
>Additional Campus Ambassadors are being selected from the participating
>institutions.  Hisham requested that everyone reach out and be encouraging
>to the Campus Ambassadors, students and teachers.
>- 2 new staff members selected; Nitika has joined & Shiju will be
>joining by October
>- Initial conversations were being sought with leading mobile companies
>to explore Wikipedia on mobile
>- Independent public trust to be set up hopefully by next week,
>followed by FCRA prior permission and other approvals required for tax
>exemption, etc.
>
> *Collaboration on future projects*
>
> Some requests from colleges to participate in campus ambassador
> like program  were received by the chapter and Hisham. Hisham said that till
> the ongoing program is stable, he will not be able to roll it to other
> cities. He suggested  that colleges can get  started by forming  student
> clubs and Foundation staff are providing necessary information and
> assistance for the same. He also requested Chapter EC to extend their
> support for the same.
>
> Chapter seeks active involvement in the elections and looks to grow its
> membership base and expand it's reach in encouraging the use
> and contributions to the Wikimedia movement in India.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Best,
>
> Gautam
>
>
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] On creating an Indian Wikisource

[Surya Prakash]

Good conversation. Very helpful to me to practice copy-right laws.

Go on guys. :)


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2011/8/26 Arjuna Rao Chavala 

>
>
> On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Shiju Alex wrote:
>
>> By hosting a WikiSource outside of the US and in the jurisdiction of
>>> the country.
>>>
>>
>> This is not limited to Wikisource. Wikimedia Commons is definitely in the
>> list, and may be some other projects also.
>>
>
> The advantage of separately hosted Wikisource is that the artefacts are
> self contained and can be used readily. Photographic media will be mainly
> useful, when they are embedded in an article. May be non WMF projects  can
> use  the same. Unfortunately, this  leads to fragmentation in the sense
> there is no one  source for the sum of human knowledge.
>
> Cheers
> Arjun
>
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WMF, India Office and Chapter - Update

[Hisham Mundol]

On Aug 26, 2011, at 11:11 AM, Gautam John wrote:

> On 26 August 2011 11:08, Naveen Francis  wrote:
> 
>> Expression of interest by colleges is in English or other Indic languages ?
> 
> Naveen, thus far English but perhaps Hisham might have had queries for
> Indic support.
> 
Not received any so far
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Gyanpad (Knowledge kiosk) web app: Easy interface to search Wikipedia and sister sites in Indian languages

[Arjuna Rao Chavala]

Just to let you know that Google has quietly added several layouts before
deprecating the whole Virtual keyboard API.( These will continue to work). I
have updated my app and feel it can be used in wiki academies or where you
want to focus on searching wikis,
Do try and share your feedback.
http://gyanpad.appspot.com

Cheers
Arjun

On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 9:58 AM, arjuna rao chavala <
arjunar...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> I added a comment  on google issue.
>
> http://code.google.com/p/google-ajax-apis/issues/detail?id=454&q=virtual%20keyboard&colspec=ID%20Type%20Stars%20Status%20Modified%20Summary%20APIType%20Opened
> Request your help to   support the same, so that it gets   Google
> attention.
>
> Regards
> Arjun
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 7:35 AM, arjuna rao chavala <
> arjunar...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> I am happy to share  a tiny web application to help people get started
>> with using Indian languages on Computers in public places, using wiki sites.
>>
>> Check it out
>> http://gyanpad.appspot.com/
>>
>> Cheers
>> Arjun
>>
>>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WMF, India Office and Chapter - Update

[Hisham Mundol]

inline

On Aug 26, 2011, at 1:23 PM, Hari Prasad Nadig wrote:
> 
> 
> About the Foundation update,
> 
> The number of students involved sounds great and sets up huge expectations 
> about the program. There has been tremendous publicity for the program. Like 
> mentioned on the update, it does require great deal of effort to retain this 
> enthusiasm in the campuses -- however the addition new staff, Shiju and 
> Nikita should boost the efforts. I personally would like to see more people 
> like Srikeit (who's presently helping out with the program) who've 
> contributed immensely on Wikipedia, and have known the community for quite 
> sometime being given opportunities to help steer this program. I met Srikeit 
> during Wikimania and he was mighty excited about his role where he could put 
> to use his long time experience being part of Wikipedia.

Absolutely.  The more Nitika and I look at the program, the more we are 
convinced that full time Fellowships (maybe of a 3 month duration) will be 
required when we move to other cities.  Getting this kind of a program going is 
back breaking stuff and requires enormous co-ordination and follow-up.  
Experienced Wikipedians can make enormous contributions.  
> 
> I would be extremely keen to know more about the conversations happening 
> between the mobile companies and the Foundation. What is the current picture? 
> As more and more people increasingly access information from mobile here, 
> this is going to be an important channel worth exploring rigorously, and with 
> focus on Indian languages. 
> 
I'll be keeping the community posted on this, as always.

> And the independent public trust -- I know that I'll be hitting a sensitive 
> topic by even stirring this, but I can't help but wonder how the dual power 
> house model would work. A common Wikipedian from here would have several 
> unanswered questions, and few very simple and obvious questions like whether 
> two different entities are actually required for the same region, or about 
> whom to approach for help in improving projects in the region or for 
> assistance of any kind. It sort of puts up good deal of confusion for the 
> community. Between just the chapter and the foundation's office (transformed 
> into a legal entity of 'trust'), while there's just too many things to be 
> done in this nascent community, isn't co-ordination going to be unnecessary 
> overhead and something that is eating up into each of your's time? How do you 
> plan to address these? And when the chapter was established, it was decided 
> to go for a 'society' model for obvious reasons, and for of how democratic it 
> would be. 

The potential in India is massive - and so is the effort required to realise 
this opportunity (as you indicated.)   It will require resources and 
capabilities and the Chapter and Foundation will both contribute.  As far as 
who should be reached for assistance of any kind, do reach out to whoever and 
however many you want to reach out to.  (An email to this mailing list for 
example is a great way - or feel free to reach out to the Chapter directly or 
to me directly or both!)  Co-ordination between the Chapter and the Foundation 
is not an overhead; we need to do it and it will be well worth the investment 
of time and effort.
> 
> There are several more questions that would prop in the minds of Wikipedians 
> who've seen times when there was no chapter, no WMF assistance during the 
> earlier years (2002 - ) to the years now of conspicuously towering interest 
> in the region. There were times when we put our own money to organize 
> Wikipedia related activities, not having anyone here to help. So, this change 
> is welcoming, the kind of interest we're seeing now in India is huge for 
> every Wikipedian from this country. However, there is uncertainty about where 
> this is headed. 

Loud +1 to Gautam's point on this.

> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
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> http://twitter.com/hpnadig
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WMF, India Office and Chapter - Update

[Gautam John]

On 26 August 2011 17:37, Hari Prasad Nadig  wrote:

> I'll be around for the September 12th event at the Dept. of Public
> Libraries.

That's wonderful, Hari. Look forward to it.

> How about a meet-up right after the program to take this further?

Like a public meet-up? Since Arjuna is coordinating this would be best
to check with him as well. Arjuna?

> Send me the access. I'll see what I can help with. You should try Drupal
> with CiviCRM for the website (or mediawiki itself).

Send me an email, off-list, please?

>> > About the Foundation update,
>> I'll leave this to Hisham, Shiju and Nitika.
> What is the Chapter's perspective on this though?

Well, the possibility of overlap and the need for coordination is one
of the big reasons for the monthly calls - will certainly make things
easier for all.

> just their time for the projects. It would be amazing if some of these long
> time Wikipedians would come forward and take part in the establishments that
> are building up and engage themselves in conversations with the decision
> makers here to get that opportunity.

Agreed! How can we help make it happen?

Thank you.

Best,

Gautam

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] On creating an Indian Wikisource

[Arjuna Rao Chavala]

On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Shiju Alex wrote:

> By hosting a WikiSource outside of the US and in the jurisdiction of
>> the country.
>>
>
> This is not limited to Wikisource. Wikimedia Commons is definitely in the
> list, and may be some other projects also.
>

The advantage of separately hosted Wikisource is that the artefacts are self
contained and can be used readily. Photographic media will be mainly useful,
when they are embedded in an article. May be non WMF projects  can use  the
same. Unfortunately, this  leads to fragmentation in the sense there is no
one  source for the sum of human knowledge.

Cheers
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WMF, India Office and Chapter - Update

[Hari Prasad Nadig]

On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Gautam John wrote:

> On 26 August 2011 13:23, Hari Prasad Nadig  wrote:
>
> > connect with them would be a plus. Let me know if I could be of any help
> > there, I'd be happy to help.
>
> Hari - that would be very welcome indeed. Both to connect us with
> departments that might be interested and at the events themselves.
> Likewise for people outside of Karnataka too.
>

I'll be around for the September 12th event at the Dept. of Public
Libraries.
How about a meet-up right after the program to take this further?


> Agreed and thank you. Nope, there aren't any paid staff! We really do
> need to overhaul that landing page and welcome assistance on that too.
>

Send me the access. I'll see what I can help with. You should try Drupal
with CiviCRM for the website (or mediawiki itself).


> > About the Foundation update,
>
> I'll leave this to Hisham, Shiju and Nitika.
>

Shall look forward to response from Hisham. I hope he's spotted this thread!
Hisham?

What is the Chapter's perspective on this though?

The movement wouldn't be where it is without the help of everyone who
> has kept the flame burning all the while. Everyone remains indebted to
> them.
>

Heartening to hear this. There are a number of Wikipedians from India who've
been working on the projects for years now without aspiring for much other
than seeing their favorite projects grow, and at times putting in more than
just their time for the projects. It would be amazing if some of these long
time Wikipedians would come forward and take part in the establishments that
are building up and engage themselves in conversations with the decision
makers here to get that opportunity.

Cheers,
-- 
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] On creating an Indian Wikisource

[Yann Forget]

2011/8/26 Shiju Alex :
>> By hosting a WikiSource outside of the US and in the jurisdiction of
>> the country.
>
> This is not limited to Wikisource. Wikimedia Commons is definitely in the
> list, and may be some other projects also.

Yes, right. Wikilivres hosts images which cannot be hosted on Commons
due to copyright restriction.

Yann

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Minutes of the Wikipedia Mumbai Meetup 12

[Hisham Mundol]

Just to clarify, Naveen, the project page is WP:INDIAEDU

Also, though I suggested otherwise, the template you've put up is going onto 
pages of people who already are participating in the project and is redirecting 
them to a different page. Apologies for my oversight in my earlier mail.

On Aug 23, 2011, at 12:29 PM, Hisham Mundol wrote:

> Great idea, Naveen.  Will do.
> 
> Hisham Mundol
> 
> Wikimedia India Programs
> skype : hisham.wikimedia
> gtalk : hmun...@wikimedia.org
> twitter   : @mundol
> 
> Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum 
> of all knowledge.  Help us make it a reality!
> 
> On Aug 22, 2011, at 11:20 AM, Naveen Francis wrote:
> 
>> Sure Hisham,
>> 
>> Can you please ask all those who are involved in this project to keep {{User 
>> WikiProject India Education Program}} in there user page ?
>> 
>> I have passed this message to few via following template.
>> 
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:India_Education_Program/Invite
>> 
>> 
>> Naveen Francis
>> Signature powered by WiseStamp
>> 
>> On 22 August 2011 09:14, Hisham Mundol  wrote:
>> Thanks for the kind words, Naveen!  I agree fully (though I may be slightly 
>> biased!  :-))  ...Don't forget the superstar Campus Ambassadors!!!  Details 
>> at WP:INDIAEDU!  Send them some WikiLove as well!
>> 
>> Hisham Mundol
>> 
>> Wikimedia  India Programs
>> skype: hisham.wikimedia
>> gtalk: hmun...@wikimedia.org
>> twitter  : @mundol
>> 
>> Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the 
>> sum of all knowledge.  Help us make it a reality!
>> 
>> On Aug 21, 2011, at 7:36 PM, Naveen Francis wrote:
>> 
>>> There are many star students and star teachers from India Education 
>>> Programme.
>>> Just loves how the program is turning out. 
>>> 
>>> Naveen Francis
>>> Signature powered by WiseStamp
>>> 
>>> On 21 August 2011 17:44, Hari Prasad Nadig  wrote:
>>> On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 11:16 PM, Pradeep Mohandas 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> [..snip..]
>>>  
>>> 5. After the round of introductions, Hisham Mundol from the Wikimedia 
>>> Foundation India office provided an update. 
>>> 5. a. He said that two members were added to office staff - Nitika Tandon 
>>> and Shiju Alex. Nitika would be working with the Pune Education Program. 
>>> Shiju will join them in the end of October. 
>>> 5. b. He said that the Educations Program was successful. They expected 250 
>>> students but have now got about 1000 students. They are working on how to 
>>> manage this larger than expected outcome. One of the things they are 
>>> considering is having more Campus Ambassadors in Pune. 
>>> 5. c. The office is also (hopefully) to be registered as a public trust 
>>> soon.Various options were considered before they reached this decision. 
>>> They are also looking for premises in the National Capital Region.
>>> 
>>> (emphasis mine)
>>> 
>>> This is big news! 
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the update, Pradeep. 
>>>  
>>> 5. d.  Hisham introduced Nitika Tandon to the members present.
>>> 6. Nitika provided an update on the India Education Programme.
>>> 6. a. She said that she had recently taken up her work at posting in Pune.
>>> 6. b. She has also been talking to 2-3 colleges in Pune but they have been 
>>> taking it slow since they have to manage the current student count.
>>> 7. Hisham suggested that one of the star students is user:basic.atari 
>>> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Basic.atari) who has been great and 
>>> requested Mumbai community members to send him some wikilove. (How? - Once 
>>> you log in, click on the heart in the top right of the user page to whom 
>>> you want to send wikilove and be led through some steps to send people 
>>> wikilove)
>>> 8. Achal gave a small talk on Oral Citations project. We were (Again) not 
>>> able to show the video.
>>> 8. a. Achal said that the Wikipedia before ~2004 did not have citations and 
>>> they grew as the Wikipedia project grew over the years.
>>> 8. b. He said citations currently was currently done from the publications 
>>> industry which has stronger and wider presence in European and North 
>>> American countries.
>>> 8. c. This combined with the limitations on what are rules on what could 
>>> get cited, could be one of the reasons for decrease in the growth of new 
>>> editors on Wikipedia.
>>> 8. d. The limitation on citation and deletion of articles without good 
>>> citations turned off new Wikipedia users and also took away some of the 
>>> revolutionary ideas around which Wikipedia was born. Other form of 
>>> citations were thus to be considered.
>>> 8. e. Wikipedians in India and South Africa worked on the Oral Citations 
>>> project - http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Oral_Citations 
>>> 9. The meeting was concluded at 6 pm. 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Pradeep Mohandas
>>> How Pradeep uses email - http://goo.gl/6v1I9
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Hari Prasad Nadig 
>>> http://hpnadig.net | http://twitter.com/hp

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WMF, India Office and Chapter - Update

[Hisham Mundol]

On Aug 26, 2011, at 4:37 PM, Naveen Francis wrote:

> Can community use the same ? Then this will be easy :)

Not sure I understand the question, Naveen.  It's an open page for everyone.  
Students and teachers and Campus Ambassadors use it to plan the program, manage 
their activities, get help and track progress.  Right now, we've put in only 
the participants from the Pune pilot but eventually, i see this page expanding 
to include other cities as the program rolls out.
> 
> Naveen Francis
> Signature powered by WiseStamp
> 
> 
> 
> On 26 August 2011 16:36, Hisham Mundol  wrote:
> Naveen: There's a project page already in place for the Wikipedia India 
> Education Program.  It's WP:INDIAEDU
> 
> Srikanth : Thanks for clarifying
> 
> Hisham Mundol
> 
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WMF, India Office and Chapter - Update

[Naveen Francis]

Can community use the same ? Then this will be easy :)

Naveen Francis
 Signature powered by

WiseStamp


On 26 August 2011 16:36, Hisham Mundol  wrote:

> Naveen: There's a project page already in place for the Wikipedia India
> Education Program.  It's WP:INDIAEDU
>
> Srikanth : Thanks for clarifying
> *
> *
> *Hisham Mundol*
>*
> *
> ***
>
> Wikimedia 
>
>  India 
> Programs
> *
> *
>
> skype : hisham.wikimedia
> gtalk : hmun...@wikimedia.org
> **
> twitter : @mundol
> *
>
> *Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the
> sum of all knowledge.  Help us make it a reality!*
>
> On Aug 26, 2011, at 12:07 PM, Naveen Francis wrote:
>
> Yup Srikanth,
>
> But we can discuss in WP:INEI talk and create new projects for this
> purpose.
> I believe many in WP:INEI or WP:IND will be happy to help this new project.
>
> Naveen Francis
>  Signature powered by 
> 
> WiseStamp
>
>
> On 26 August 2011 12:02, Srikanth Lakshmanan  wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 11:57, Gautam John wrote:
>>
>>> On 26 August 2011 11:50, Naveen Francis  wrote:
>>>
>>> > If it is English, WikiProject Education in India will give a try, we
>>> are 40 in numbers now ..
>>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:INEI
>>>
>>> Oh! Thanks Naveen. We'll definitely keep you guys involved with this.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Err, both of you are totally disconnected.
>>
>> Naveen,
>> Education program is about interacting with colleges about use of
>> Wikipedia included in teaching learning process, like Campus Ambassador
>> program where people edit as part of curriculum.
>>
>> Gautam,
>> WP:INEI is a WikiProject aiming improvement of articles in English
>> wikipedia related to education in India and has goals like improving
>> coverage of Indian education related articles.
>>
>> Ofcourse, if one student who participates from each college on education
>> program writes / improves his/her own college article, WP:INEI can also
>> improve !
>>
>> --
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WMF, India Office and Chapter - Update

[Hisham Mundol]

Naveen: There's a project page already in place for the Wikipedia India 
Education Program.  It's WP:INDIAEDU

Srikanth : Thanks for clarifying

Hisham Mundol

Wikimedia India Programs
skype   : hisham.wikimedia
gtalk   : hmun...@wikimedia.org
twitter : @mundol

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On Aug 26, 2011, at 12:07 PM, Naveen Francis wrote:

> Yup Srikanth,
> 
> But we can discuss in WP:INEI talk and create new projects for this purpose. 
> I believe many in WP:INEI or WP:IND will be happy to help this new project.
> 
> Naveen Francis
> Signature powered by WiseStamp
> 
> 
> 
> On 26 August 2011 12:02, Srikanth Lakshmanan  wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 11:57, Gautam John  wrote:
> On 26 August 2011 11:50, Naveen Francis  wrote:
> 
> > If it is English, WikiProject Education in India will give a try, we are 40 
> > in numbers now ..
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:INEI
> 
> Oh! Thanks Naveen. We'll definitely keep you guys involved with this.
> 
>  
> Err, both of you are totally disconnected.
> 
> Naveen,
> Education program is about interacting with colleges about use of Wikipedia 
> included in teaching learning process, like Campus Ambassador program where 
> people edit as part of curriculum.
> 
> Gautam,
> WP:INEI is a WikiProject aiming improvement of articles in English wikipedia 
> related to education in India and has goals like improving coverage of Indian 
> education related articles. 
>  
> Ofcourse, if one student who participates from each college on education 
> program writes / improves his/her own college article, WP:INEI can also 
> improve !
> 
> -- 
> Regards
> Srikanth.L
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WikiConference India 2011 - Call for Participation

[Shiju Alex]

Dear All,

We have only 4 more days for the Program submission. Last date is August 30.


Please submit your program proposals before the due date at *
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_India_2011/Call_for_Participation
*


Shiju Alex



On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Shiju Alex wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> The Call for Participation for WikiConference India 2011 is open now.
>
> Details are available here: *
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_India_2011/Call_for_Participation
> *
> Few guidelines that you need to keep in mind before submitting the proposal
> are available on this page. The guidelines are only meant as a pointer to
> help speakers and is not expected to be exhaustive. You can submit talks
> within all aspects of Wikimedia even if the topic is not specifically
> included on that page. ''' Be Bold.'''
>
> Few wikimedians had provided their wish list regarding WikiConference India
> 2011 here:
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:WikiConference_India_2011/Programs You
> can use that also as reference while submitting the proposal.
>
>
> *Important: *Please forward this mail to all the relevant mailing lists,
> in case I missed any list.
>
>
> Regards
> Shiju Alex
> For WikiConference India 2011, Program Commitee
>
>
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] On creating an Indian Wikisource

[Gautam John]

Very good points, Anirudh.

Thank you.

Best,

Gautam
(handheld)
On Aug 26, 2011 1:11 PM, "Anirudh Bhati"  wrote:
> I think it's a great idea!
>
> Alternatively, we could pool in resources with chapters / communities in
> regions which have minimal copyright restrictions so that they can legally
> host the content on their websites which will be accessible around the
> world. I would suggest jurisdictions which comply with the minimum
> requirements of the TRIPS Convention. I believe that would be author's
life
> + 25 years for less developed countries and author's life + 50 years for
> other countries including Hong Kong. Copyright protection for literary
> works in India extends to life + 60 years.
>
> [As a sidenote: There are countries where copyright legislation is
> non-existent, e.g., Lao PR. The Wikimedia Foundation may not wish that
> their trademarks be used to facilitate copyright infringements in other
> territories, therefore an endeavour in these countries could be supported
by
> an individual or community-run with no links to the Wikimedia Foundation.]
>
> Yours sincerely,
>
> Anirudh Bhati
>
> +855 975 529 803
> Skype: anirudhsbh
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Gautam John wrote:
>
>> On 26 August 2011 12:52, Shiju Alex  wrote:
>>
>> > So what you propose is not a new project, but to have servers in India
>> for
>> > the projects with India related content? Infact most of the projects,
>> > including commons and meta, have India related content.
>> > I am not sure how much this will help. But do we have servers outside
US
>> > now?
>>
>> Not for India related content, Shiju. Specifically a WikiSource server
>> of sorts, hosted in India, exclusively for content that is out of
>> copyright in India only.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Gautam
>> 
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] On creating an Indian Wikisource

[Gautam John]

True. Worth exploring?

Thank you.

Best,

Gautam
(handheld)
On Aug 26, 2011 2:46 PM, "Shiju Alex"  wrote:
>>
>> By hosting a WikiSource outside of the US and in the jurisdiction of
>> the country.
>>
>
> This is not limited to Wikisource. Wikimedia Commons is definitely in the
> list, and may be some other projects also.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Gautam John wrote:
>
>> On 26 August 2011 14:21, Shiju Alex  wrote:
>>
>> > In this case, much content that reside in many Indic language
>> wikisources,
>> > few images in Wikimedia Commons, and may be some works in English
>> wikisource
>> > are also against US copyright law. So how can we overcome this issue?
>> > I think this issue is applicable to more countries, not only India.
>>
>> By hosting a WikiSource outside of the US and in the jurisdiction of
>> the country.
>>
>> - Gautam
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] On creating an Indian Wikisource

[Shiju Alex]

>
> By hosting a WikiSource outside of the US and in the jurisdiction of
> the country.
>

This is not limited to Wikisource. Wikimedia Commons is definitely in the
list, and may be some other projects also.



On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Gautam John wrote:

> On 26 August 2011 14:21, Shiju Alex  wrote:
>
> > In this case, much content that reside in many Indic language
> wikisources,
> > few images in Wikimedia Commons, and may be some works in English
> wikisource
> > are also against US copyright law. So how can we overcome this issue?
> > I think this issue is applicable to more countries, not only India.
>
> By hosting a WikiSource outside of the US and in the jurisdiction of
> the country.
>
> - Gautam
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] On creating an Indian Wikisource

[Gautam John]

On 26 August 2011 14:21, Shiju Alex  wrote:

> In this case, much content that reside in many Indic language wikisources,
> few images in Wikimedia Commons, and may be some works in English wikisource
> are also against US copyright law. So how can we overcome this issue?
> I think this issue is applicable to more countries, not only India.

By hosting a WikiSource outside of the US and in the jurisdiction of
the country.

- Gautam

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] On creating an Indian Wikisource

[Shiju Alex]

>
> The best example is Gandhi
>
> Many of his works, and translations of them, are not public domain in
> the United States.
>
> http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Author:Mohandas_K._Gandhi
>
> http://www.wikilivres.info/wiki/Mohandas_K._Gandhi
>

In this case, much content that reside in many Indic language wikisources,
few images in Wikimedia Commons, and may be some works in English wikisource
are also against US copyright law. So how can we overcome this issue?

I think this issue is applicable to more countries, not only India.



On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 1:11 PM, John Vandenberg  wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Shiju Alex 
> wrote:
> >> Specifically a WikiSource server
> >> of sorts, hosted in India, exclusively for content that is out of
> >> copyright in India only.
> >
> > As far as I know, "the content that is that is out of copyright in India
> now
> > "can be uploaded to the existing wikisources.
> >
> > Can you cite some examples for which this is not possible?
>
> The best example is Gandhi
>
> Many of his works, and translations of them, are not public domain in
> the United States.
>
> http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Author:Mohandas_K._Gandhi
>
> http://www.wikilivres.info/wiki/Mohandas_K._Gandhi
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] On creating an Indian Wikisource

[Hari Prasad Nadig]

On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Yann Forget  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> 2011/8/26 Gautam John :
> > On 26 August 2011 13:18, Yann Forget  wrote:
> >
> >> AFAIK, all what is PD in India is also PD in Canada, but not the
> opposite.
> >> Canadian law says that what is PD elsewhere is also PD in Canada (law
> >> of shorter term).
> >> Canadian law is 50 years pma, while Indian law is 60 years pma, except
> >> for photographs.
> >
> > In which case, it's a problem that has mostly been solved with
> > http://www.wikilivres.info/ :)
>
> Yeah. ;o)
> Actually I am looking for some people and/or organisation to take over
> the project,
> as I have no time and money to continue it myself.
>

ha ha :-)

Can't imagine how you're able to manage it now with everything else that
you've been doing.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] On creating an Indian Wikisource

[Hari Prasad Nadig]

On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 12:57 PM, John Vandenberg  wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Gautam John 
> wrote:
> > Shiju and Sreejith:
> >
> >> Currently Wikipedia projects are hosted in US and all media files
> uploaded
> >> to these projects should be copyright free in the source country of
> origin
> >> and also in US.
> >> If we need to upload media files out of copyright in India but still
> >> copyrighted in US, I am afraid, the servers need to be hosted in India.
> >
> > Sreejith's point is what I was wondering about. Is there value in
> > this? Something that the Chapter might consider?
>
> I believe that either WM Canada or WM India should do this, as these
> countries have the most useful copyright systems for our objectives.
>
> I think that all Australian works which are public domain in Australia
> (but not public domain in the United States) are also public domain in
> India and Canada.  We need to check this with lawyers.
>
> Wherever this new 'Wikisource' is located, the chapter needs to be
> careful to ensure it maintains the high standards of copyright
> compliance that Wikisource achieves.
>

Agree with John.

And Gautam, it is a good idea -- should be an interesting project to take
up.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] On creating an Indian Wikisource

[Gautam John]

On 26 August 2011 13:34, Yann Forget  wrote:

> Actually I am looking for some people and/or organisation to take over
> the project,
> as I have no time and money to continue it myself.

Yann, I don't know what it entails but perhaps it is something the
Chapter might consider?

Thank you.

Best,

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WMF, India Office and Chapter - Update

[Gautam John]

On 26 August 2011 13:23, Hari Prasad Nadig  wrote:

> connect with them would be a plus. Let me know if I could be of any help
> there, I'd be happy to help.

Hari - that would be very welcome indeed. Both to connect us with
departments that might be interested and at the events themselves.
Likewise for people outside of Karnataka too.

> Membership at 80 looks like a good number achieved considering that Chapter
> had minimal resources to do a membership drive in that it doesn't have paid
> employees yet who can run around getting stuff done (or are there any now?).
> I believe placing a link on http://wikimedia.in/ about the membership would
> help drive more members. The site notice on the community wiki can also be
> put to better use.

Agreed and thank you. Nope, there aren't any paid staff! We really do
need to overhaul that landing page and welcome assistance on that too.
Similarly, on the Wiki too. We're also hoping that online membership
becomes a reality in the next few months too. That said, it would be
really helpful if everyone could refer their colleagues and fellow
volunteers to become members and if the India Program team can also
encourage those it interacts with to become members of the Chapter.

> Good to hear about the progress on FCRA. Going by what I've heard from
> others, this is going to test your patience.

Indeed! But we remain hopeful. :)

> About the Foundation update,

I'll leave this to Hisham, Shiju and Nitika.

> There are several more questions that would prop in the minds of Wikipedians
> who've seen times when there was no chapter, no WMF assistance during the
> earlier years (2002 - ) to the years now of conspicuously towering interest
> in the region. There were times when we put our own money to organize
> Wikipedia related activities, not having anyone here to help. So, this
> change is welcoming, the kind of interest we're seeing now in India is huge
> for every Wikipedian from this country. However, there is uncertainty about
> where this is headed.

The movement wouldn't be where it is without the help of everyone who
has kept the flame burning all the while. Everyone remains indebted to
them.

Thanks!

- Gautam

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] On creating an Indian Wikisource

[Yann Forget]

Hello,

2011/8/26 Gautam John :
> On 26 August 2011 13:18, Yann Forget  wrote:
>
>> AFAIK, all what is PD in India is also PD in Canada, but not the opposite.
>> Canadian law says that what is PD elsewhere is also PD in Canada (law
>> of shorter term).
>> Canadian law is 50 years pma, while Indian law is 60 years pma, except
>> for photographs.
>
> In which case, it's a problem that has mostly been solved with
> http://www.wikilivres.info/ :)

Yeah. ;o)
Actually I am looking for some people and/or organisation to take over
the project,
as I have no time and money to continue it myself.

> Thank you.
>
> Best,
>
> Gautam

Best regards,

Yann

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] On creating an Indian Wikisource

[BalaSundaraRaman]

> But do we have servers outside US now?
IIRC, we had mirror servers hosted by Yahoo! in South Korea.
Not sure if we still have them.

- Sundar
 
"That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for 
the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted."
- George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture


>
>From: Shiju Alex 
>To: Wikimedia India Community list 
>Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 12:52 PM
>Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] On creating an Indian Wikisource
>
>
>Sreejith's point is what I was wondering about. Is there value in
>>this? Something that the Chapter might consider?
>>
>
>So what you propose is not a new project, but to have servers in India for the 
>projects with India related content? Infact most of the projects, including 
>commons and meta, have India related content. 
>
>I am not sure how much this will help. But do we have servers outside US now?
>
>
>
>
>On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Gautam John  wrote:
>
>Shiju and Sreejith:
>>
>>
>>> Currently Wikipedia projects are hosted in US and all media files uploaded
>>> to these projects should be copyright free in the source country of origin
>>> and also in US.
>>> If we need to upload media files out of copyright in India but still
>>> copyrighted in US, I am afraid, the servers need to be hosted in India.
>>
>>Sreejith's point is what I was wondering about. Is there value in
>>this? Something that the Chapter might consider?
>>
>>
>>Thank you.
>>
>>Best,
>>
>>Gautam
>>
>>http://blog.prathambooks.org/p/social-media.html
>>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WMF, India Office and Chapter - Update

[Hari Prasad Nadig]

Gautam,

Thanks for the update.

Plan to engage with Department of Public Libraries is a valuable step ahead,
in my opinion. Shortlisting other departments who's association would help
immensely (for instance the department of secondary education) and trying to
connect with them would be a plus. Let me know if I could be of any help
there, I'd be happy to help.

Membership at 80 looks like a good number achieved considering that Chapter
had minimal resources to do a membership drive in that it doesn't have paid
employees yet who can run around getting stuff done (or are there any now?).
I believe placing a link on http://wikimedia.in/ about the membership would
help drive more members. The site notice on the community wiki can also be
put to better use.

Good to hear about the progress on FCRA. Going by what I've heard from
others, this is going to test your patience.

About the Foundation update,

The number of students involved sounds great and sets up huge expectations
about the program. There has been tremendous publicity for the program. Like
mentioned on the update, it does require great deal of effort to retain this
enthusiasm in the campuses -- however the addition new staff, Shiju and
Nikita should boost the efforts. I personally would like to see more people
like Srikeit (who's presently helping out with the program) who've
contributed immensely on Wikipedia, and have known the community for quite
sometime being given opportunities to help steer this program. I met Srikeit
during Wikimania and he was mighty excited about his role where he could put
to use his long time experience being part of Wikipedia.

I would be extremely keen to know more about the conversations happening
between the mobile companies and the Foundation. What is the current
picture? As more and more people increasingly access information from mobile
here, this is going to be an important channel worth exploring rigorously,
and with focus on Indian languages.

And the independent public trust -- I know that I'll be hitting a sensitive
topic by even stirring this, but I can't help but wonder how the dual power
house model would work. A common Wikipedian from here would have several
unanswered questions, and few very simple and obvious questions like whether
two different entities are actually required for the same region, or about
whom to approach for help in improving projects in the region or for
assistance of any kind. It sort of puts up good deal of confusion for the
community. Between just the chapter and the foundation's office (transformed
into a legal entity of 'trust'), while there's just too many things to be
done in this nascent community, isn't co-ordination going to be unnecessary
overhead and something that is eating up into each of your's time? How do
you plan to address these? And when the chapter was established, it was
decided to go for a 'society' model for obvious reasons, and for of how
democratic it would be.

There are several more questions that would prop in the minds of Wikipedians
who've seen times when there was no chapter, no WMF assistance during the
earlier years (2002 - ) to the years now of conspicuously towering interest
in the region. There were times when we put our own money to organize
Wikipedia related activities, not having anyone here to help. So, this
change is welcoming, the kind of interest we're seeing now in India is huge
for every Wikipedian from this country. However, there is uncertainty about
where this is headed.

Cheers,

On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Gautam John wrote:

> Dear All:
>
> We have instituted a monthly call between the India Chapter and the
> Wikimedia Foundation.  Members of the Chapter EC, Hisham and Asaf Bartov
> (who heads up Global South Relationships at the Foundation) will participate
> in this call.  The objective of the call is to share information and improve
> collaboration between the Chapter and the Foundation on various Wikimedia
> projects of relevance to India.  We had the first one on Aug 24, 2011, and
> here's a quick update.
>
> *Chapter Update*
>
>- 30 persons attended the workshop on Copyright and Open Licensing
>conducted on 30th July 2011 in Bangalore, which was well received.
>http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Events/Copyright_and_Open_Licensing_SeminarPlan
>- Plan to conduct 1st WikiAcademy with the Department of Public
>Libraries, Karnataka for their senior Library professionals on 12 Sep 2011.
>- Membership currently stands at ~80
>- Participation from community on some projects but the response is
>below expectations. Chapter hopes that the response will improve as more
>activities are taken up by Chapter in the near future.
>- AGM will be conducted on September 24 2011.  Elections process  for
>EC vacancies has been initiated.
>- Process for applying for FCRA prior permission has been actioned with
>necessary steps being taken with local banks, consultants and the WMF. The
>bank accoun

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] On creating an Indian Wikisource

[Gautam John]

On 26 August 2011 13:18, Yann Forget  wrote:

> AFAIK, all what is PD in India is also PD in Canada, but not the opposite.
> Canadian law says that what is PD elsewhere is also PD in Canada (law
> of shorter term).
> Canadian law is 50 years pma, while Indian law is 60 years pma, except
> for photographs.

In which case, it's a problem that has mostly been solved with
http://www.wikilivres.info/ :)

Thank you.

Best,

Gautam

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] On creating an Indian Wikisource

[Yann Forget]

Hello,

2011/8/26 Gautam John :
> On 26 August 2011 13:08, John Vandenberg  wrote:
>
>> Wikisource already has a "Commonwealth copyright wikisource"
>> it is called Wikilivres, and it is hosted in Canada.
>> On that website you will find many examples of works which are illegal
>> to distribute on US servers.
>> Whenever English Wikisource finds a work which is illegal in the US,
>> but legal in Canada, it is moved to Wikilivres.
>
> Thank you, John. Of course, I can see how this can be a never ending
> set of legal tests - illegal in USA and Canada but legal in India
> (where you can replace India with any other locale) then host on
> Indian server.

AFAIK, all what is PD in India is also PD in Canada, but not the opposite.
Canadian law says that what is PD elsewhere is also PD in Canada (law
of shorter term).
Canadian law is 50 years pma, while Indian law is 60 years pma, except
for photographs.

> Wondering if there is a better way! And, if Commons can at least
> search the meta data from this Canadian archive and possible future
> other archives.
>
> Best,
>
> Gautam

Regards,

Yann

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] On creating an Indian Wikisource

[Gautam John]

On 26 August 2011 13:11, Ashwin Baindur  wrote:

> Gautam, any idea what happened to that blanket public domain extension plan
> of Govt of India which was posted some months back?

Pranesh, is ahem, working on it.

Thank you.

Best,

Gautam

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] On creating an Indian Wikisource

[Gautam John]

On 26 August 2011 13:08, John Vandenberg  wrote:

> Wikisource already has a "Commonwealth copyright wikisource"
> it is called Wikilivres, and it is hosted in Canada.
> On that website you will find many examples of works which are illegal
> to distribute on US servers.
> Whenever English Wikisource finds a work which is illegal in the US,
> but legal in Canada, it is moved to Wikilivres.

Thank you, John. Of course, I can see how this can be a never ending
set of legal tests - illegal in USA and Canada but legal in India
(where you can replace India with any other locale) then host on
Indian server.

Wondering if there is a better way! And, if Commons can at least
search the meta data from this Canadian archive and possible future
other archives.

Best,

Gautam

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] On creating an Indian Wikisource

[John Vandenberg]

On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Shiju Alex  wrote:
>> Specifically a WikiSource server
>> of sorts, hosted in India, exclusively for content that is out of
>> copyright in India only.
>
> As far as I know, "the content that is that is out of copyright in India now
> "can be uploaded to the existing wikisources.
>
> Can you cite some examples for which this is not possible?

The best example is Gandhi

Many of his works, and translations of them, are not public domain in
the United States.

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Author:Mohandas_K._Gandhi

http://www.wikilivres.info/wiki/Mohandas_K._Gandhi

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] On creating an Indian Wikisource

[Anirudh Bhati]

I think it's a great idea!

Alternatively, we could pool in resources with chapters / communities in
regions which have minimal copyright restrictions so that they can legally
host the content on their websites which will be accessible around the
world.  I would suggest jurisdictions which comply with the minimum
requirements of the TRIPS Convention.  I believe that would be author's life
+ 25 years for less developed countries and author's life + 50 years for
other countries including Hong Kong.  Copyright protection for literary
works in India extends to life + 60 years.

[As a sidenote: There are countries where copyright legislation is
non-existent, e.g., Lao PR.  The Wikimedia Foundation may not wish that
their trademarks be used to facilitate copyright infringements in other
territories, therefore an endeavour in these countries could be supported by
an individual or community-run with no links to the Wikimedia Foundation.]

Yours sincerely,

Anirudh Bhati

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Skype: anirudhsbh


On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Gautam John wrote:

> On 26 August 2011 12:52, Shiju Alex  wrote:
>
> > So what you propose is not a new project, but to have servers in India
> for
> > the projects with India related content? Infact most of the projects,
> > including commons and meta, have India related content.
> > I am not sure how much this will help. But do we have servers outside US
> > now?
>
> Not for India related content, Shiju. Specifically a WikiSource server
> of sorts, hosted in India, exclusively for content that is out of
> copyright in India only.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Best,
>
> Gautam
> 
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] On creating an Indian Wikisource

[Ashwin Baindur]

Gautam, any idea what happened to that blanket public domain extension plan
of Govt of India which was posted some months back?

Warm regards,

Ashwin Baindur
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On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Gautam John wrote:

> On 26 August 2011 12:57, Shiju Alex  wrote:
>
> > As far as I know, "the content that is that is out of copyright in India
> now
> > "can be uploaded to the existing wikisources.
>
> Citing Sreejith above.
>
> "Currently Wikipedia projects are hosted in US and all media files
> uploaded to these projects should be copyright free in the source
> country of origin and also in US."
>
> Also:
>
> http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Copyright_policy
>
> "The copyright laws applicable to Wikisource are primarily those of
> the United States of America, where the physical Wikimedia servers are
> located. The United States is not obliged to extend copyright beyond
> what it would be in the author's own country, and virtually all
> countries have copyrights that last for the author's life plus some
> number of years."
>
> I don't have a specific example, Shiju. Was thinking out aloud.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Best,
>
> Gautam
> 
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] On creating an Indian Wikisource

[John Vandenberg]

Wikisource already has a "Commonwealth copyright wikisource"

it is called Wikilivres, and it is hosted in Canada.

http://www.wikilivres.info/

On that website you will find many examples of works which are illegal
to distribute on US servers.

Whenever English Wikisource finds a work which is illegal in the US,
but legal in Canada, it is moved to Wikilivres.

Wikilivres is currently paid for by a Wikisource administrator [[user:Yann]].

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] On creating an Indian Wikisource

[Gautam John]

On 26 August 2011 12:57, Shiju Alex  wrote:

> As far as I know, "the content that is that is out of copyright in India now
> "can be uploaded to the existing wikisources.

Citing Sreejith above.

"Currently Wikipedia projects are hosted in US and all media files
uploaded to these projects should be copyright free in the source
country of origin and also in US."

Also:

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Copyright_policy

"The copyright laws applicable to Wikisource are primarily those of
the United States of America, where the physical Wikimedia servers are
located. The United States is not obliged to extend copyright beyond
what it would be in the author's own country, and virtually all
countries have copyrights that last for the author's life plus some
number of years."

I don't have a specific example, Shiju. Was thinking out aloud.

Thank you.

Best,

Gautam

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] On creating an Indian Wikisource

[Gautam John]

On 26 August 2011 12:57, John Vandenberg  wrote:

> Wherever this new 'Wikisource' is located, the chapter needs to be
> careful to ensure it maintains the high standards of copyright
> compliance that Wikisource achieves.

Indeed!

Thank you, John

Best,

Gautam

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] On creating an Indian Wikisource

[Shiju Alex]

>
> Specifically a WikiSource server
> of sorts, hosted in India, exclusively for content that is out of
> copyright in India only.
>

As far as I know, "*the content that is that is out of copyright in India
now* "can be uploaded to the existing wikisources.

Can you cite some examples for which this is not possible?

On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Gautam John wrote:

> On 26 August 2011 12:52, Shiju Alex  wrote:
>
> > So what you propose is not a new project, but to have servers in India
> for
> > the projects with India related content? Infact most of the projects,
> > including commons and meta, have India related content.
> > I am not sure how much this will help. But do we have servers outside US
> > now?
>
> Not for India related content, Shiju. Specifically a WikiSource server
> of sorts, hosted in India, exclusively for content that is out of
> copyright in India only.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Best,
>
> Gautam
> 
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] On creating an Indian Wikisource

[John Vandenberg]

On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Gautam John  wrote:
> Shiju and Sreejith:
>
>> Currently Wikipedia projects are hosted in US and all media files uploaded
>> to these projects should be copyright free in the source country of origin
>> and also in US.
>> If we need to upload media files out of copyright in India but still
>> copyrighted in US, I am afraid, the servers need to be hosted in India.
>
> Sreejith's point is what I was wondering about. Is there value in
> this? Something that the Chapter might consider?

I believe that either WM Canada or WM India should do this, as these
countries have the most useful copyright systems for our objectives.

I think that all Australian works which are public domain in Australia
(but not public domain in the United States) are also public domain in
India and Canada.  We need to check this with lawyers.

Wherever this new 'Wikisource' is located, the chapter needs to be
careful to ensure it maintains the high standards of copyright
compliance that Wikisource achieves.

-- 
John Vandenberg

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] On creating an Indian Wikisource

[Gautam John]

On 26 August 2011 12:52, Shiju Alex  wrote:

> So what you propose is not a new project, but to have servers in India for
> the projects with India related content? Infact most of the projects,
> including commons and meta, have India related content.
> I am not sure how much this will help. But do we have servers outside US
> now?

Not for India related content, Shiju. Specifically a WikiSource server
of sorts, hosted in India, exclusively for content that is out of
copyright in India only.

Thank you.

Best,

Gautam

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] On creating an Indian Wikisource

[Shiju Alex]

>
> Sreejith's point is what I was wondering about. Is there value in
> this? Something that the Chapter might consider?
>

So what you propose is not a new project, but to have servers in India for
the projects with India related content? Infact most of the projects,
including commons and meta, have India related content.

I am not sure how much this will help. But do we have servers outside US
now?



On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Gautam John wrote:

> Shiju and Sreejith:
>
> > Currently Wikipedia projects are hosted in US and all media files
> uploaded
> > to these projects should be copyright free in the source country of
> origin
> > and also in US.
> > If we need to upload media files out of copyright in India but still
> > copyrighted in US, I am afraid, the servers need to be hosted in India.
>
> Sreejith's point is what I was wondering about. Is there value in
> this? Something that the Chapter might consider?
>
> Thank you.
>
> Best,
>
> Gautam
> 
> http://blog.prathambooks.org/p/social-media.html
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] On creating an Indian Wikisource

[Gautam John]

Shiju and Sreejith:

> Currently Wikipedia projects are hosted in US and all media files uploaded
> to these projects should be copyright free in the source country of origin
> and also in US.
> If we need to upload media files out of copyright in India but still
> copyrighted in US, I am afraid, the servers need to be hosted in India.

Sreejith's point is what I was wondering about. Is there value in
this? Something that the Chapter might consider?

Thank you.

Best,

Gautam

http://blog.prathambooks.org/p/social-media.html

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] On creating an Indian Wikisource

[Sreejith K.]

Currently Wikipedia projects are hosted in US and all media files uploaded
to these projects should be copyright free in the source country of origin
and also in US.

If we need to upload media files out of copyright in India but still
copyrighted in US, I am afraid, the servers need to be hosted in India.

- Sreejith K.


On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Gautam John wrote:

> So here's a question - given that there is much content that is out of
> copyright in India but not necessarily in other parts of the world, is
> there any sense in looking to create an Indian Wikisource for content
> that is out of copyright here?
>
> Thank you.
>
> Best,
>
> Gautam
> 
> http://blog.prathambooks.org/p/social-media.html
>
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