Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WikiConference-India 2011] Spamming India list with Conference Discussion -- Moderation notice
Dear all, Here is a message from our list moderator Srikanth: I have put myself on moderation to avoid spamming while replying just because lot of people want to copy india list on discussion. I may not mail the list till the Wiki conference ends or please expect delays in mails i need to send. I apologise for my actions On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 8:01 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.comwrote: Hi, Apologies to India list members on failing to act on spammers for sometime. I have put members who violated the warnings [1][2] . People who have been put on moderation are in bcc of this mail and list is available here for anyone to search and find[3]. These members will be removed from moderation post conference on requesting wikimediaindia-l-owner@lists.wikimedia.orgthat they will abide by notices by list admins on spamming etc. On a serious note, let me work on some list guidelines on put them soon, I know this again was pending on me and I thought all of us are mature doing without one, but then its better to have one. [1] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2011-September/004482.html [2] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2011-September/004484.html [3] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2011-September/date.html#start -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ WikiConference-India mailing list wikiconference-in...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiconference-india ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe / mailing option visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia in TN text books
That is very interesting. Perhaps the WMF has some mechanism in place to go to court? On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote: Arun, when has any Indian government ever credited us when flicking our images? Even Doordarshan has aired photographs from the Commons and put a Copyright 2009, Prasar Bharti notice on it. -Re, Srikanth. On 29/09/2011, Srikanth Ramakrishnan rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the heads up Srikanth and Bala. The website is a bit buggy on my system. Since I have physical access to the Samacheer textbooks, I shall have a look and post a full page *review* of it. I'll keep you both and Sundar updated on the matter. I believe there is a lot of scope for improvement, which we can suggest. As for the who reads Further Reading matter, I do. The textbook has always been my mortal enemy, hence I always stuck to the further reading sections. --Re, Srikanth R, Coimbatore. -- Sent from my mobile device Regards, ME. Wear a Lungi, Support the Movement My infrastructure invasion... plus other images too.. on Wikimedia Commons. http://bit.ly/d50SIq -- Sent from my mobile device Regards, ME. Wear a Lungi, Support the Movement My infrastructure invasion... plus other images too.. on Wikimedia Commons. http://bit.ly/d50SIq ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe / mailing option visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Vickram Fool On The Hill http://communicall.wordpress.com ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe / mailing option visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia in TN text books
On 29 September 2011 12:13, Vickram Crishna vvcris...@radiophony.com wrote: That is very interesting. Perhaps the WMF has some mechanism in place to go to court? Perhaps a letter from the Chapter would be more appropriate? Thank you. Best, Gautam http://blog.prathambooks.org/p/social-media.html ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe / mailing option visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia in TN text books
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.orgwrote: On 29 September 2011 12:13, Vickram Crishna vvcris...@radiophony.com wrote: That is very interesting. Perhaps the WMF has some mechanism in place to go to court? Court? that's a bit extreme. This opportunity can be leveraged to bring some more awareness over creative commons license among government agencies. Perhaps a letter from the Chapter would be more appropriate? Thank you. Best, Gautam http://blog.prathambooks.org/p/social-media.html ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe / mailing option visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- j.mp/ArunGanesh http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe / mailing option visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia in TN text books
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.org wrote: On 29 September 2011 12:13, Vickram Crishna vvcris...@radiophony.com wrote: That is very interesting. Perhaps the WMF has some mechanism in place to go to court? Perhaps a letter from the Chapter would be more appropriate? I would like to think that the general idea behind free-licensing creative work is the defensive protection of intellectual property, and not to enforce rights in courts of law. anirudh ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe / mailing option visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe / mailing option visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] or.wiktionary.org
Good news .. While inviting for WCI 2011 there were no active wikimedian's for Bengalihttp://bn.wiktionary.org/wiki/Special:ActiveUsers, Diveh http://dv.wiktionary.org/wiki/Special:ActiveUsersi , Gujaratihttp://gu.wiktionary.org/wiki/Special:ActiveUsersand Pali http://pa.wiktionary.org/wiki/Special:ActiveUsers wikitionaries. It will be great if Odia community can share their experience. Ref : http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_India_2011/Wiki_Outreach#Wiktionary Thanks, Naveen On 28 September 2011 11:48, Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, I am really pleased to inform you that the Oriya Wiktionary is the first project ever to be officially re-enabled for editing. The Oriya community is working really hard to make their projects a success. They are noticing that the usability is improving as a consequence of the obligatory localisation that they have to do. Once they are done, the language committee will assess if a Wikiquote can be created as well. The exception that was made to open up the Oriya Wiktionary was given because there is a Wikimeet in the near future and we do want to give their community more of a reason to be happy with their hard work. This is great news! Where can I read more about these efforts in Odia? Cheers, Asaf -- Asaf Bartov Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe / mailing option visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe / mailing option visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] WCI 2011 : Scholarship
Hi all, Wikimedians who have received scholarship please accept(reject) your scholarship by senting a mail to wikiconferencein...@gmail.com asap. So that we can work on the second round scholarship list. Thanks, For Scholarship Team, WCI 2011. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe / mailing option visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia in TN text books
On 29 September 2011 14:21, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to think that the general idea behind free-licensing creative work is the defensive protection of intellectual property, and not to enforce rights in courts of law. Well, and to ease the use of it while clearly marking it as such and making interoperability easier. Me thinks a letter explaining the license, how they can use *any* content from WMF properties and the attribution would help. And that it is in Tamil too - the content, that is. Thank you. Best, Gautam http://blog.prathambooks.org/p/social-media.html ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe / mailing option visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia in TN text books
Gautam, PB is a CG body, you might want to draft a letter in Hindi or for that matter, in all 22 languages enjoying official status. I think our course of action, now is not to draft letters or go to court, but since we now know that media from the Commons is being used in education, bring more awareness about the Commons and get more contributors. On 29/09/2011, Srikanth Ramakrishnan rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote: Arun, when has any Indian government ever credited us when flicking our images? Even Doordarshan has aired photographs from the Commons and put a Copyright 2009, Prasar Bharti notice on it. -Re, Srikanth. On 29/09/2011, Srikanth Ramakrishnan rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the heads up Srikanth and Bala. The website is a bit buggy on my system. Since I have physical access to the Samacheer textbooks, I shall have a look and post a full page *review* of it. I'll keep you both and Sundar updated on the matter. I believe there is a lot of scope for improvement, which we can suggest. As for the who reads Further Reading matter, I do. The textbook has always been my mortal enemy, hence I always stuck to the further reading sections. --Re, Srikanth R, Coimbatore. -- Sent from my mobile device Regards, ME. Wear a Lungi, Support the Movement My infrastructure invasion... plus other images too.. on Wikimedia Commons. http://bit.ly/d50SIq -- Sent from my mobile device Regards, ME. Wear a Lungi, Support the Movement My infrastructure invasion... plus other images too.. on Wikimedia Commons. http://bit.ly/d50SIq -- Sent from my mobile device Regards, ME. Wear a Lungi, Support the Movement My infrastructure invasion... plus other images too.. on Wikimedia Commons. http://bit.ly/d50SIq ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe / mailing option visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia in TN text books
Central Government, I think. :) warm regards, Pradeep On 29 September 2011 15:52, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.org wrote: PB is what?! CG? Thank you. Best, Gautam http://blog.prathambooks.org/p/social-media.html On 29 September 2011 15:48, Srikanth Ramakrishnan rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote: Gautam, PB is a CG body, you might want to draft a letter in Hindi or for that matter, in all 22 languages enjoying official status. I think our course of action, now is not to draft letters or go to court, but since we now know that media from the Commons is being used in education, bring more awareness about the Commons and get more contributors. On 29/09/2011, Srikanth Ramakrishnan rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote: Arun, when has any Indian government ever credited us when flicking our images? Even Doordarshan has aired photographs from the Commons and put a Copyright 2009, Prasar Bharti notice on it. -Re, Srikanth. On 29/09/2011, Srikanth Ramakrishnan rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the heads up Srikanth and Bala. The website is a bit buggy on my system. Since I have physical access to the Samacheer textbooks, I shall have a look and post a full page *review* of it. I'll keep you both and Sundar updated on the matter. I believe there is a lot of scope for improvement, which we can suggest. As for the who reads Further Reading matter, I do. The textbook has always been my mortal enemy, hence I always stuck to the further reading sections. --Re, Srikanth R, Coimbatore. -- Sent from my mobile device Regards, ME. Wear a Lungi, Support the Movement My infrastructure invasion... plus other images too.. on Wikimedia Commons. http://bit.ly/d50SIq -- Sent from my mobile device Regards, ME. Wear a Lungi, Support the Movement My infrastructure invasion... plus other images too.. on Wikimedia Commons. http://bit.ly/d50SIq -- Sent from my mobile device Regards, ME. Wear a Lungi, Support the Movement My infrastructure invasion... plus other images too.. on Wikimedia Commons. http://bit.ly/d50SIq ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe / mailing option visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe / mailing option visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Pradeep Mohandas How Pradeep uses email - http://goo.gl/6v1I9 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe / mailing option visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia in TN text books
On 29 September 2011 15:56, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com wrote: Central Government, I think. :) Oh! Pratham Books is most certainly not a Central Government body! Thank you. Best, Gautam http://blog.prathambooks.org/p/social-media.html ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe / mailing option visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia in TN text books
Gautam, I meant Prasar Bharathi. The parent company of Doordarshan. It is a Central Government entity. Re,+ SR, CBE. On 29/09/2011, Srikanth Ramakrishnan rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote: Gautam, PB is a CG body, you might want to draft a letter in Hindi or for that matter, in all 22 languages enjoying official status. I think our course of action, now is not to draft letters or go to court, but since we now know that media from the Commons is being used in education, bring more awareness about the Commons and get more contributors. On 29/09/2011, Srikanth Ramakrishnan rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote: Arun, when has any Indian government ever credited us when flicking our images? Even Doordarshan has aired photographs from the Commons and put a Copyright 2009, Prasar Bharti notice on it. -Re, Srikanth. On 29/09/2011, Srikanth Ramakrishnan rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the heads up Srikanth and Bala. The website is a bit buggy on my system. Since I have physical access to the Samacheer textbooks, I shall have a look and post a full page *review* of it. I'll keep you both and Sundar updated on the matter. I believe there is a lot of scope for improvement, which we can suggest. As for the who reads Further Reading matter, I do. The textbook has always been my mortal enemy, hence I always stuck to the further reading sections. --Re, Srikanth R, Coimbatore. -- Sent from my mobile device Regards, ME. Wear a Lungi, Support the Movement My infrastructure invasion... plus other images too.. on Wikimedia Commons. http://bit.ly/d50SIq -- Sent from my mobile device Regards, ME. Wear a Lungi, Support the Movement My infrastructure invasion... plus other images too.. on Wikimedia Commons. http://bit.ly/d50SIq -- Sent from my mobile device Regards, ME. Wear a Lungi, Support the Movement My infrastructure invasion... plus other images too.. on Wikimedia Commons. http://bit.ly/d50SIq -- Sent from my mobile device Regards, ME. Wear a Lungi, Support the Movement My infrastructure invasion... plus other images too.. on Wikimedia Commons. http://bit.ly/d50SIq ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe / mailing option visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Indic Languages: Shiju Alex
cross-posting to reach pan-India; apologies if you have got it from other mailing lists. Dear All As I had mentioned in a previous posting (and as was so touchingly welcomed by so many of of you), Shiju Alex is joining us to lead our Indic Languages initiatives. In this mail (http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2011-July/003845.html), I had indicated that he would join around September-October. I'm really pleased to inform you that he has now joined India Programs (on September 24th.) Indic Languages is an important priority for us - and Shiju intends to start work on this urgently. He'll be in touch shortly on this matter. Welcome aboard, Shiju! Warmest Regards, hisham ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe / mailing option visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indic Languages: Shiju Alex
Welcome on board, Shiju! Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 8:10 AM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.orgwrote: On 30 September 2011 07:24, Hisham his...@wikimedia.org wrote: I'm really pleased to inform you that he has now joined India Programs (on September 24th.) Good luck Shiju! Thank you. Best, Gautam http://blog.prathambooks.org/p/social-media.html ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe / mailing option visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe / mailing option visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indic Languages: Shiju Alex
Hoi, I could not be more happy. Shiju we must talk. Thanks, GerardM On 29 September 2011 20:14, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote: Welcome on board, Shiju! Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 8:10 AM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.orgwrote: On 30 September 2011 07:24, Hisham his...@wikimedia.org wrote: I'm really pleased to inform you that he has now joined India Programs (on September 24th.) Good luck Shiju! Thank you. Best, Gautam http://blog.prathambooks.org/p/social-media.html ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe / mailing option visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe / mailing option visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe / mailing option visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia in TN text books
I am sorry that my simple query did not include my reasoning. The purpose of going to court is not to enforce rights per se for a particular photograph, but to send a signal to the government that a right enjoyed by all cannot be arbitrarily abstracted by the government, and that it amounts to intellectual theft, aside from a signal failure of the government to protect the Constitution, which assigns this right. In fact, we (persons who have a point of view about IPR that is somewhat at odds with the reasoning that has gone behind the enactment of amendments and/or rules to the Copyright Act in accordance with certain provisions under TRIPS etc, and of course we believe that this category should include all persons in favour of Wikipedia) actually want the opposite, we want the government to assign public rights by default over all intellectual content created at public cost, save only that (and it should be specifically described with a logical, transparent and clear methodology and process, not some peon lagaaoing a rubber stamp marked 'Secret' with gay abandon, only because the officer concerned is too lazy or uneducated to do her homework) content that pertains clearly and unequivocally to national security for which provision has been made in the Constitution, and of course, information pertaining to the personal privacy rights of individuals, which by definition cannot be acquired by the government in the first place (although it may in the interest of good governance, document or tabulate such information for specifically defines purposes, and for such purposes only). Wow! That's some sentence - it is an example of how legal writing sometime needs to be nitpickingly precise, even at the cost of obvious clarity. I am not insisting that WMF or the Chapter take the lead in this matter - there are plenty of NGOs and brave individuals out there fighting for the preservation of our fundamental rights. But in this case, it is precisely WMF (or if you please, the Chapter, although I don't really see the connection, unless the Chapter charter includes a specific assignment of rights from the Foundation for such purposes) that is the aggrieved party, having posted information (or, to be legally specific, enabled the posting) in the public domain for the common weal, that has been sought to be stolen arbitrarily and without any form of legal sanction. My query was only to establish whether Wikimedia in general is playing an active role in the courts in such matters, in India as well as abroad. On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote: Gautam, I meant Prasar Bharathi. The parent company of Doordarshan. It is a Central Government entity. Re,+ SR, CBE. On 29/09/2011, Srikanth Ramakrishnan rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote: Gautam, PB is a CG body, you might want to draft a letter in Hindi or for that matter, in all 22 languages enjoying official status. I think our course of action, now is not to draft letters or go to court, but since we now know that media from the Commons is being used in education, bring more awareness about the Commons and get more contributors. On 29/09/2011, Srikanth Ramakrishnan rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote: Arun, when has any Indian government ever credited us when flicking our images? Even Doordarshan has aired photographs from the Commons and put a Copyright 2009, Prasar Bharti notice on it. -Re, Srikanth. On 29/09/2011, Srikanth Ramakrishnan rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the heads up Srikanth and Bala. The website is a bit buggy on my system. Since I have physical access to the Samacheer textbooks, I shall have a look and post a full page *review* of it. I'll keep you both and Sundar updated on the matter. I believe there is a lot of scope for improvement, which we can suggest. As for the who reads Further Reading matter, I do. The textbook has always been my mortal enemy, hence I always stuck to the further reading sections. --Re, Srikanth R, Coimbatore. -- Sent from my mobile device Regards, ME. Wear a Lungi, Support the Movement My infrastructure invasion... plus other images too.. on Wikimedia Commons. http://bit.ly/d50SIq -- Sent from my mobile device Regards, ME. Wear a Lungi, Support the Movement My infrastructure invasion... plus other images too.. on Wikimedia Commons. http://bit.ly/d50SIq -- Sent from my mobile device Regards, ME. Wear a Lungi, Support the Movement My infrastructure invasion... plus other images too.. on Wikimedia Commons. http://bit.ly/d50SIq -- Sent from my mobile device Regards, ME. Wear a Lungi, Support the Movement My infrastructure invasion... plus other images too.. on Wikimedia Commons. http://bit.ly/d50SIq ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe / mailing option visit
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia in TN text books
Vickram: I am not insisting that WMF or the Chapter take the lead in this matter - there are plenty of NGOs and brave individuals out there fighting for the preservation of our fundamental rights. But in this case, it is precisely WMF (or if you please, the Chapter, although I don't really see the connection, unless the Chapter charter includes a specific assignment of rights from the Foundation for such purposes) that is the aggrieved party, having posted information (or, to be legally specific, enabled the posting) in the public domain for the common weal, that has been sought to be stolen arbitrarily and without any form of legal sanction. Actually, in this case the aggrieved party is not the Foundation or the Chapter but Arun Ganesh. Neither the Foundation nor the Chapter derive any rights from the content being available on a WMF project. My query was only to establish whether Wikimedia in general is playing an active role in the courts in such matters, in India as well as abroad. Not in India - it's far too soon but in the US, the WMF has filed, via EFF, an amicus brief in an ongoing litigation in the US. More here: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/foundation/239118 Thank you. Best, Gautam http://blog.prathambooks.org/p/social-media.html ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe / mailing option visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia in TN text books
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.orgwrote: Vickram: I am not insisting that WMF or the Chapter take the lead in this matter - there are plenty of NGOs and brave individuals out there fighting for the preservation of our fundamental rights. But in this case, it is precisely WMF (or if you please, the Chapter, although I don't really see the connection, unless the Chapter charter includes a specific assignment of rights from the Foundation for such purposes) that is the aggrieved party, having posted information (or, to be legally specific, enabled the posting) in the public domain for the common weal, that has been sought to be stolen arbitrarily and without any form of legal sanction. Actually, in this case the aggrieved party is not the Foundation or the Chapter but Arun Ganesh. Neither the Foundation nor the Chapter derive any rights from the content being available on a WMF project. In this particular case, doubtless Arun Ganesh is specifically aggrieved, since it was his picture the Government has acquired al la Singur (but without the comforting legislative sanction such actions normally need), but WMF's ability to display content in the public domain would be rather severely constrained if government functionaries made a habit of this sort of thing. As a matter of fact, we have been discussing on separate threads just how much that ability is constrained by new definitions in India extending copyright in text and picture for extended periods that even the pharmaceutical sector does not enjoy for formulations that have been brought into the market only after the expenditure of several millions of dollars (which they ameliorate by 'conducting' clinical tests in India winkety wink but that's another tale for another thread) in developmental costs. My query was only to establish whether Wikimedia in general is playing an active role in the courts in such matters, in India as well as abroad. Not in India - it's far too soon but in the US, the WMF has filed, via EFF, an amicus brief in an ongoing litigation in the US. More here: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/foundation/239118 Many thanks Gautam. I agree it is probably a little early for the Chapter, an organisation that is in effect just getting off the ground, but perhaps it can be taken on board. Thank you. Best, Gautam http://blog.prathambooks.org/p/social-media.html ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe / mailing option visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Vickram Fool On The Hill http://communicall.wordpress.com ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe / mailing option visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
