[Wikimediaindia-l] Global Development Midyear Report 2011-12

2012-01-28 Thread Mandar Kulkarni


Here is the link if you have not seen - 

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMF_Global_Development_Midyear_report_2011-12#Global_Development_core_activity_review

 
 
With Regards,

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[Wikimediaindia-l] BSNL DNS Blocking Wikipedia?

2012-01-28 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
Hi,

Yannf posted this on IRC (#wikimedia-in) when I was away,

==
in my new DSL connection with BSNL, *.wikipedia.org is blocked
any idea?
I get a page of advertising about web hosting
http://commons.wikimedia.org works
==

My guess is BSNL DNS is playing some game here (IIRC they have local DNS
for each telecom circle). As for the geekish users, they would know to use
opendns, ways to access *.wikipedia.org etc. But this needs to be looked at
seriously. This is not the first time am hearing something like this on
BSNL DNS. If we identify the problem, can the chapter / programs do
necessary running around for the issue and ensure this doesn't exist?

-- 
Regards
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 2012

2012-01-28 Thread Nagarjuna G
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.comwrote:

 open the Python file and fill the login details and url for commons.

 copy the script to the folder where you have the images.

 run the following command.

 python mediawiki-uploader.py

 mail me if you have any issues.



We tried this script for some folders.  the feedback is as follows:

while running the script, it cribbed about missing module poster.  I have
installed it using pip. then another missing dependency was
python-pyexiv2.  apt-get install python-pyexiv2 took care of this.
after that the script ran successfully.

--
GN
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 2012

2012-01-28 Thread Shrinivasan T
happy to know that it is useful.

the install and readme files explain solving these issues.

edit the file to change the default category too.

please share if you need any enhancements.

thanks.
On Jan 28, 2012 8:41 PM, Nagarjuna G nagar...@gnowledge.org wrote:

 On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.comwrote:

 open the Python file and fill the login details and url for commons.

 copy the script to the folder where you have the images.

 run the following command.

 python mediawiki-uploader.py

 mail me if you have any issues.



 We tried this script for some folders.  the feedback is as follows:

 while running the script, it cribbed about missing module poster.  I have
 installed it using pip. then another missing dependency was
 python-pyexiv2.  apt-get install python-pyexiv2 took care of this.
 after that the script ran successfully.

 --
 GN


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[Wikimediaindia-l] Article on Marathi Wikipedia in the second edition of Marathi e-Sahitya_Sammelan

2012-01-28 Thread Sudhanwa Jogalekar
Hi,

Article on Marathi wikipedia is published in the second edition of Marathi
e-Sahitya_Sammelan.
Marathi e-Sahitya_Sammelan.was inaugurated by the famous Marathi poet
Grace (
http://mr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%97%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%B8)
on 28 Jan 2012.

Please read it here:
http://uniquefeatures.in/e-sammelan-12/%E0%A4%AE%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%A0%E0%A5%80-%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%A1%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE

Marathi wikipedians are proud to be part of e-Sahitya_Sammelan!!

Best regards
-Sudhanwa
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 2012

2012-01-28 Thread wheredevelsdare

Thanks for this GN/Srinivasan.

Point to note - none of the files uploaded using this script have a description.

Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 23:57:14 +0530
From: tshriniva...@gmail.com
To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 2012

happy to know that it is useful.
the install and readme files explain solving these issues.
edit the file to change the default category too.
please share if you need any enhancements.
thanks.
On Jan 28, 2012 8:41 PM, Nagarjuna G nagar...@gnowledge.org wrote:

On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.com wrote:


open the Python file and fill the login details and url for commons.
copy the script to the folder where you have the images.
run the following command.
python mediawiki-uploader.py
mail me if you have any issues.


We tried this script for some folders.  the feedback is as follows:

while running the script, it cribbed about missing module poster.  I have 
installed it using pip. then another missing dependency was python-pyexiv2.  
apt-get install python-pyexiv2 took care of this. 


after that the script ran successfully.  

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 2012

2012-01-28 Thread Vickram Crishna
Failure to make the system work efficiently is also a learning exercise.
Given that we are hoping to make such events happen more frequently and at
many historically important places across the country, we must work to see
that wikimedians are enabled to upload images meaningfully, ie with proper
descriptions, as smoothly as possible. It is unlikely that everyone will
have access to decent facilities for mass uploading the next time.

Ideally, the availability of offline tools for collating and annotating
images is needed, so that the tagged pictures can be kept ready in a folder
for uploading. Then it won't matter if only a single PC can be used for the
actual uploading, as different wikimedians can collate thier pictures
individually, and transfer the folder files severally to the designated
uploader PC for completion. This is important for such group activities,
which may not have been a need when the original upload tool was designed
and the rules for uploading set (which were probably designed to control
spam and other anti-social uploaders, also an important need). This is
analogous to the problems found while running newbie wikiacademies earlier.

I suggest one or two of the Photowalk people, who worked at understanding
and solving the problem found yesterday, interact with more geek
wikimedians who can identify and describe this need as a bug for the
community to solve, or to solve it directly.

On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 11:27 AM, nikita belavate niki8...@gmail.comwrote:

 Upload on only one single PC was possible at a time.  We tried reaching
 IRC center, but there was no one online at the IRC center for support.Due
 to time constraints, we skipped adding descriptions that could be uploaded
 successfully on their second try. On the first through,Commonist tool, the
 meta-data was not saved with the images and was erased with an 'unknown
 error'. So, there are many pictures yet to be uploaded and I will ask the
 participants to upload them with descriptions.

 Regards,
 Nikita.


 On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 11:14 AM, nikita belavate niki8...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hii,
 Its not any problem with the tool.

 On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Shrinivasan T 
 tshriniva...@gmail.comwrote:

 did you use gthumb to add title and description?
 On Jan 29, 2012 10:07 AM, wheredevelsd...@hotmail.com wrote:

  Thanks for this GN/Srinivasan.

 Point to note - none of the files uploaded using this script have a
 description.

 --
 Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 23:57:14 +0530
 From: tshriniva...@gmail.com
 To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 2012

 happy to know that it is useful.
 the install and readme files explain solving these issues.
 edit the file to change the default category too.
 please share if you need any enhancements.
 thanks.
 On Jan 28, 2012 8:41 PM, Nagarjuna G nagar...@gnowledge.org wrote:

 On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 open the Python file and fill the login details and url for commons.
 copy the script to the folder where you have the images.
 run the following command.
 python mediawiki-uploader.py
 mail me if you have any issues.



 We tried this script for some folders.  the feedback is as follows:

 while running the script, it cribbed about missing module poster.  I
 have installed it using pip. then another missing dependency was
 python-pyexiv2.  apt-get install python-pyexiv2 took care of this.
 after that the script ran successfully.

 --
 GN


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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] BSNL DNS Blocking Wikipedia?

2012-01-28 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
Do keep in mind that BSNL is a government-backed entity. It's parent
ministry is the one which proposed screening of content.

On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think this is likely a temporary issue, and I suspect that the security
 of the BSNL servers may have been compromised.  Yann is of the same
 opinion.  If the issue persists for a longer-term, then we can pursue it
 with the ISP.

 anirudh

 On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan 
 srik@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,

 Yannf posted this on IRC (#wikimedia-in) when I was away,

 ==
  in my new DSL connection with BSNL, *.wikipedia.org is blocked
 any idea?
 I get a page of advertising about web hosting
 http://commons.wikimedia.org works
 ==

 My guess is BSNL DNS is playing some game here (IIRC they have local DNS
 for each telecom circle). As for the geekish users, they would know to use
 opendns, ways to access *.wikipedia.org etc. But this needs to be looked
 at seriously. This is not the first time am hearing something like this on
 BSNL DNS. If we identify the problem, can the chapter / programs do
 necessary running around for the issue and ensure this doesn't exist?

 --
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] BSNL DNS Blocking Wikipedia?

2012-01-28 Thread Yann Forget
Hello,

It seems that the DNS server of BSNL was hacked.
It looks strange that only Wikipedia was affected.
The issue is fixed now.

Regards,

Yann

2012/1/28 Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com:
 I think this is likely a temporary issue, and I suspect that the security of
 the BSNL servers may have been compromised.  Yann is of the same opinion.
  If the issue persists for a longer-term, then we can pursue it with the
 ISP.

 anirudh

 On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi,

 Yannf posted this on IRC (#wikimedia-in) when I was away,

 ==
 in my new DSL connection with BSNL, *.wikipedia.org is blocked
 any idea?
 I get a page of advertising about web hosting
 http://commons.wikimedia.org works
 ==

 My guess is BSNL DNS is playing some game here (IIRC they have local DNS
 for each telecom circle). As for the geekish users, they would know to use
 opendns, ways to access *.wikipedia.org etc. But this needs to be looked at
 seriously. This is not the first time am hearing something like this on BSNL
 DNS. If we identify the problem, can the chapter / programs do necessary
 running around for the issue and ensure this doesn't exist?

 --
 Regards
 Srikanth.L

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 2012

2012-01-28 Thread Noopur
IMHO, the point of the photo walk is not just to get pictures but, also to
ask people to log on to Commons and check it out by themselves so that they
continue uploading pictures etc.
This thread seems so complex that a participant must have felt crippled and
left thinking that Wikipedia (and Commons) is all so complicated and geeky,
it's not my cup of tea.
For the next time, a tiny suggestion: Please resort to simpler techniques
of communication and although that may not result in mass uploads *on the
spot*, give out manuals or DIY cheat sheets so that people can go back home
and look at them again.
Maybe you guys can also keep in touch with these people who came, drop in a
word and ask them if they need help. Some of them may return to your next
meetup and that is how community expands.

Thank you,
Warmly
Noopur

On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Vickram Crishna
vvcris...@radiophony.comwrote:

 Failure to make the system work efficiently is also a learning exercise.
 Given that we are hoping to make such events happen more frequently and at
 many historically important places across the country, we must work to see
 that wikimedians are enabled to upload images meaningfully, ie with proper
 descriptions, as smoothly as possible. It is unlikely that everyone will
 have access to decent facilities for mass uploading the next time.

 Ideally, the availability of offline tools for collating and annotating
 images is needed, so that the tagged pictures can be kept ready in a folder
 for uploading. Then it won't matter if only a single PC can be used for the
 actual uploading, as different wikimedians can collate thier pictures
 individually, and transfer the folder files severally to the designated
 uploader PC for completion. This is important for such group activities,
 which may not have been a need when the original upload tool was designed
 and the rules for uploading set (which were probably designed to control
 spam and other anti-social uploaders, also an important need). This is
 analogous to the problems found while running newbie wikiacademies earlier.

 I suggest one or two of the Photowalk people, who worked at understanding
 and solving the problem found yesterday, interact with more geek
 wikimedians who can identify and describe this need as a bug for the
 community to solve, or to solve it directly.

 On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 11:27 AM, nikita belavate niki8...@gmail.comwrote:

 Upload on only one single PC was possible at a time.  We tried reaching
 IRC center, but there was no one online at the IRC center for support.Due
 to time constraints, we skipped adding descriptions that could be uploaded
 successfully on their second try. On the first through,Commonist tool, the
 meta-data was not saved with the images and was erased with an 'unknown
 error'. So, there are many pictures yet to be uploaded and I will ask the
 participants to upload them with descriptions.

 Regards,
 Nikita.


 On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 11:14 AM, nikita belavate niki8...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hii,
 Its not any problem with the tool.

 On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Shrinivasan T 
 tshriniva...@gmail.comwrote:

 did you use gthumb to add title and description?
 On Jan 29, 2012 10:07 AM, wheredevelsd...@hotmail.com wrote:

  Thanks for this GN/Srinivasan.

 Point to note - none of the files uploaded using this script have a
 description.

 --
 Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 23:57:14 +0530
 From: tshriniva...@gmail.com
 To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 2012

 happy to know that it is useful.
 the install and readme files explain solving these issues.
 edit the file to change the default category too.
 please share if you need any enhancements.
 thanks.
 On Jan 28, 2012 8:41 PM, Nagarjuna G nagar...@gnowledge.org wrote:

 On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Shrinivasan T 
 tshriniva...@gmail.com wrote:

 open the Python file and fill the login details and url for commons.
 copy the script to the folder where you have the images.
 run the following command.
 python mediawiki-uploader.py
 mail me if you have any issues.



 We tried this script for some folders.  the feedback is as follows:

 while running the script, it cribbed about missing module poster.  I
 have installed it using pip. then another missing dependency was
 python-pyexiv2.  apt-get install python-pyexiv2 took care of this.
 after that the script ran successfully.

 --
 GN


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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 2012

2012-01-28 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote:

 IMHO, the point of the photo walk is not just to get pictures but, also to
 ask people to log on to Commons and check it out by themselves so that they
 continue uploading pictures etc.
 This thread seems so complex that a participant must have felt crippled
 and left thinking that Wikipedia (and Commons) is all so complicated and
 geeky, it's not my cup of tea.


The nuts and bolts will always be geeky (although only some highly specific
mails actually had any geeky content in them). The point of all the geeky
stuff is to make life simple for persons who do not need to know anything
geeky at all.

For the next time, a tiny suggestion: Please resort to simpler techniques
 of communication and although that may not result in mass uploads *on the
 spot*, give out manuals or DIY cheat sheets so that people can go back home
 and look at them again.


Actually, 'on the spot' was deliberately chosen following earlier walks,
where it was noticed that not everyone who participated actually uploaded
the content later, or partially uploaded with no captions or details. This
makes extra work for other people later.

Maybe you guys can also keep in touch with these people who came, drop in a
 word and ask them if they need help. Some of them may return to your next
 meetup and that is how community expands.


Noted. I think the purpose of such community efforts is to create more
awareness about Wikimedia, that it has such interesting and user-focused
details available, and that it is participatory: even when things do not
work as hoped, it is we who solve such issues, not they. That is a huge
message for people everywhere, one that does not need to be stated because
it is being experienced.

Having said which, the 'we' who solve the issues work within a commonly
agreed framework, to avoid chaos and wandering down blind alleys. This list
is not part of that framework, it is the place (within this context) where
non-geeky people share their geeky needs.




 On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Vickram Crishna 
 vvcris...@radiophony.com wrote:

 Failure to make the system work efficiently is also a learning exercise.
 Given that we are hoping to make such events happen more frequently and at
 many historically important places across the country, we must work to see
 that wikimedians are enabled to upload images meaningfully, ie with proper
 descriptions, as smoothly as possible. It is unlikely that everyone will
 have access to decent facilities for mass uploading the next time.

 Ideally, the availability of offline tools for collating and annotating
 images is needed, so that the tagged pictures can be kept ready in a folder
 for uploading. Then it won't matter if only a single PC can be used for the
 actual uploading, as different wikimedians can collate thier pictures
 individually, and transfer the folder files severally to the designated
 uploader PC for completion. This is important for such group activities,
 which may not have been a need when the original upload tool was designed
 and the rules for uploading set (which were probably designed to control
 spam and other anti-social uploaders, also an important need). This is
 analogous to the problems found while running newbie wikiacademies earlier.

 I suggest one or two of the Photowalk people, who worked at understanding
 and solving the problem found yesterday, interact with more geek
 wikimedians who can identify and describe this need as a bug for the
 community to solve, or to solve it directly.

 On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 11:27 AM, nikita belavate niki8...@gmail.comwrote:

 Upload on only one single PC was possible at a time.  We tried reaching
 IRC center, but there was no one online at the IRC center for support.Due
 to time constraints, we skipped adding descriptions that could be uploaded
 successfully on their second try. On the first through,Commonist tool, the
 meta-data was not saved with the images and was erased with an 'unknown
 error'. So, there are many pictures yet to be uploaded and I will ask the
 participants to upload them with descriptions.

 Regards,
 Nikita.


 On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 11:14 AM, nikita belavate niki8...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hii,
 Its not any problem with the tool.

 On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 did you use gthumb to add title and description?
 On Jan 29, 2012 10:07 AM, wheredevelsd...@hotmail.com wrote:

  Thanks for this GN/Srinivasan.

 Point to note - none of the files uploaded using this script have a
 description.

 --
 Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 23:57:14 +0530
 From: tshriniva...@gmail.com
 To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 2012

 happy to know that it is useful.
 the install and readme files explain solving these issues.
 edit the file to change the default category too.
 please share if you need any 

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 2012

2012-01-28 Thread Noopur
Actually, 'on the spot' was deliberately chosen following earlier walks,
where it was noticed that not everyone who participated actually uploaded
the content later, or partially uploaded with no captions or details. This
makes extra work for other people later.

Maybe this is an assumption? We thought the same but took our chances with
manuals and people went back home and actually uploaded over 800 pictures.

Regarding the geeky tools- making life simple, again, the moment you push
photographers/non Linux users into a Linux lab and talk Python and metadata
problems, one is bound to get slightly intimidated. On the back end of
course, you can build the geekiest tool and talk about it, but on the front
end, it should have been a 'clear solution'. People who struggled with
uploads and metadata will surely not go back home and try it again. That
was my point.


On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Vickram Crishna
vvcris...@radiophony.comwrote:



 On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote:

 IMHO, the point of the photo walk is not just to get pictures but, also
 to ask people to log on to Commons and check it out by themselves so that
 they continue uploading pictures etc.
 This thread seems so complex that a participant must have felt crippled
 and left thinking that Wikipedia (and Commons) is all so complicated and
 geeky, it's not my cup of tea.


 The nuts and bolts will always be geeky (although only some highly
 specific mails actually had any geeky content in them). The point of all
 the geeky stuff is to make life simple for persons who do not need to know
 anything geeky at all.

 For the next time, a tiny suggestion: Please resort to simpler techniques
 of communication and although that may not result in mass uploads *on the
 spot*, give out manuals or DIY cheat sheets so that people can go back home
 and look at them again.


 Actually, 'on the spot' was deliberately chosen following earlier walks,
 where it was noticed that not everyone who participated actually uploaded
 the content later, or partially uploaded with no captions or details. This
 makes extra work for other people later.

 Maybe you guys can also keep in touch with these people who came, drop in
 a word and ask them if they need help. Some of them may return to your next
 meetup and that is how community expands.


 Noted. I think the purpose of such community efforts is to create more
 awareness about Wikimedia, that it has such interesting and user-focused
 details available, and that it is participatory: even when things do not
 work as hoped, it is we who solve such issues, not they. That is a huge
 message for people everywhere, one that does not need to be stated because
 it is being experienced.

 Having said which, the 'we' who solve the issues work within a commonly
 agreed framework, to avoid chaos and wandering down blind alleys. This list
 is not part of that framework, it is the place (within this context) where
 non-geeky people share their geeky needs.




 On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Vickram Crishna 
 vvcris...@radiophony.com wrote:

 Failure to make the system work efficiently is also a learning exercise.
 Given that we are hoping to make such events happen more frequently and at
 many historically important places across the country, we must work to see
 that wikimedians are enabled to upload images meaningfully, ie with proper
 descriptions, as smoothly as possible. It is unlikely that everyone will
 have access to decent facilities for mass uploading the next time.

 Ideally, the availability of offline tools for collating and annotating
 images is needed, so that the tagged pictures can be kept ready in a folder
 for uploading. Then it won't matter if only a single PC can be used for the
 actual uploading, as different wikimedians can collate thier pictures
 individually, and transfer the folder files severally to the designated
 uploader PC for completion. This is important for such group activities,
 which may not have been a need when the original upload tool was designed
 and the rules for uploading set (which were probably designed to control
 spam and other anti-social uploaders, also an important need). This is
 analogous to the problems found while running newbie wikiacademies earlier.

 I suggest one or two of the Photowalk people, who worked at
 understanding and solving the problem found yesterday, interact with more
 geek wikimedians who can identify and describe this need as a bug for the
 community to solve, or to solve it directly.

 On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 11:27 AM, nikita belavate niki8...@gmail.comwrote:

 Upload on only one single PC was possible at a time.  We tried reaching
 IRC center, but there was no one online at the IRC center for support.Due
 to time constraints, we skipped adding descriptions that could be uploaded
 successfully on their second try. On the first through,Commonist tool, the
 meta-data was not saved with the images and was erased with