[Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Mumbai Meetup - 16

2012-05-02 Thread Karthik Nadar
Cross posting to reach the mass.

Hi Wikipedians,
The 16th Wikipedia Mumbai Meetup is scheduled on 5 May 2012 (Saturday).

*Venue:* Barista, Shivaji
Park
, Dadar  at 5.00 PM.

Further details are available at the Wikipedia event page here: Mumbai
Meetup - 
16,
and don't forget to sign-in at the same page.
Visit the Facebook event
page for
live updates.

Hope to see you all Mumbai Wikipedians and if anyone in and around Mumbai
this week :)



Regards,
User:Karthikndr ,
Karthik Nadar.
(On behalf of Krutikaa Jawanjal )
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[Wikimediaindia-l] Autobiography of Mahatma Gandhiji is added to Gujarati Wikisource

2012-05-02 Thread Shiju Alex
Dear All,

On behalf the Gujarati community, I wanted to share a nice update.  On 22nd
April, Gujarati Wikisource reached a major milestone with the completion
of " સત્યના પ્રયોગો અથવા
આત્મકથા"
(Saty Naa Prayogo Athavaa Aatmakathaa)  It is the Autobiography of Mahatma
Gandhi (The story of my experiments with
truth).
 This book has 454 pages in 169 chapters in 5 sections.

The work to digitize this book was started less than 1 month before.

The following Gujarati wiki librarians contributed to this project.

   1. સુશાંત સાવલા (Sushant Savla)
   2. ધવલ વ્યાસ (Dhaval Vyas)
   3. vyom25 (Vyom)
   4. સતિષ પટેલ (Satish Chandra)
   5. જેઠાભાઇ ઓડેદરા (Jethabhai Odedara)
   6. અશોક મોઢવાડીયા (Ashok Modhavadia - Captain)
   7. jaishree
   8. Roopal Mehta
   9. સંજય બાલોતિયા (Sanjay Balotia)
   10. જીતેન્દ્રસિંહ (Jinedrasinh)
   11. નિલેશ બંધીયા (Nilesha Bandhia)
   12. Findjigar
   13. દેવેન્દ્રસિંહ ગોહિલ (Devendrasinh Gohil)

To me, this is actually the biggest part of this story!  *13
wikilibrarians*from all over the world collaborated on this! That is
amazing for
a relatively new community.

I would like to acknowledge the contributions of Ashok Modhavadia from
Junagadh for managing the project, and for Sushant Savla and Dhaval Vyas
for being inspirations behind it.  Incidentally, Ashok managed the scanning
of all the pages, the allotment of chapters, and all other aspects of
project management.

For anyone interested in how to manage a Wikisource initiative, do look at
the discussions on this page

[
http://gu.wikisource.org/wiki/%E0%AA%9A%E0%AA%B0%E0%AB%8D%E0%AA%9A%E0%AA%BE:%E0%AA%B8%E0%AA%A4%E0%AB%8D%E0%AA%AF%E0%AA%A8%E0%AA%BE_%E0%AA%AA%E0%AB%8D%E0%AA%B0%E0%AA%AF%E0%AB%8B%E0%AA%97%E0%AB%8B_%E0%AA%85%E0%AA%A5%E0%AA%B5%E0%AA%BE_%E0%AA%86%E0%AA%A4%E0%AB%8D%E0%AA%AE%E0%AA%95%E0%AA%A5%E0%AA%BE
]

Digitization of the next book will be managed by Vyom.

There is an lovely quote I will close this mail with:  આજ આનંદ મારા આંગણે
રે લોલ! (Aaj aanand maara aangane re lol!) which means "Today is a joyous
day for us!"
Congratulations to the Gujarati community.

Wishing Gujarati wiki community all the best.

Warmest Regards,

Shiju Alex
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Autobiography of Mahatma Gandhiji is added to Gujarati Wikisource

2012-05-02 Thread Dhaval S. Vyas
Dear Shiju,

Thanks a million for sharing this with the wider community.

An update:

The next collaborative work is already started and in just a week's time,
it is almost 25% completed as well.

Kind Regards,
Dhaval
On 2 May 2012 16:11, "Shiju Alex"  wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> On behalf the Gujarati community, I wanted to share a nice update.  On
> 22nd April, Gujarati Wikisource reached a major milestone with the
> completion of " સત્યના પ્રયોગો અથવા 
> આત્મકથા"
> (Saty Naa Prayogo Athavaa Aatmakathaa)  It is the Autobiography of Mahatma
> Gandhi (The story of my experiments with 
> truth).
>  This book has 454 pages in 169 chapters in 5 sections.
>
> The work to digitize this book was started less than 1 month before.
>
> The following Gujarati wiki librarians contributed to this project.
>
>1. સુશાંત સાવલા (Sushant Savla)
>2. ધવલ વ્યાસ (Dhaval Vyas)
>3. vyom25 (Vyom)
>4. સતિષ પટેલ (Satish Chandra)
>5. જેઠાભાઇ ઓડેદરા (Jethabhai Odedara)
>6. અશોક મોઢવાડીયા (Ashok Modhavadia - Captain)
>7. jaishree
>8. Roopal Mehta
>9. સંજય બાલોતિયા (Sanjay Balotia)
>10. જીતેન્દ્રસિંહ (Jinedrasinh)
>11. નિલેશ બંધીયા (Nilesha Bandhia)
>12. Findjigar
>13. દેવેન્દ્રસિંહ ગોહિલ (Devendrasinh Gohil)
>
> To me, this is actually the biggest part of this story!  *13
> wikilibrarians* from all over the world collaborated on this! That is
> amazing for a relatively new community.
>
> I would like to acknowledge the contributions of Ashok Modhavadia from
> Junagadh for managing the project, and for Sushant Savla and Dhaval Vyas
> for being inspirations behind it.  Incidentally, Ashok managed the scanning
> of all the pages, the allotment of chapters, and all other aspects of
> project management.
>
> For anyone interested in how to manage a Wikisource initiative, do look at
> the discussions on this page
>
> [
> http://gu.wikisource.org/wiki/%E0%AA%9A%E0%AA%B0%E0%AB%8D%E0%AA%9A%E0%AA%BE:%E0%AA%B8%E0%AA%A4%E0%AB%8D%E0%AA%AF%E0%AA%A8%E0%AA%BE_%E0%AA%AA%E0%AB%8D%E0%AA%B0%E0%AA%AF%E0%AB%8B%E0%AA%97%E0%AB%8B_%E0%AA%85%E0%AA%A5%E0%AA%B5%E0%AA%BE_%E0%AA%86%E0%AA%A4%E0%AB%8D%E0%AA%AE%E0%AA%95%E0%AA%A5%E0%AA%BE
> ]
>
> Digitization of the next book will be managed by Vyom.
>
> There is an lovely quote I will close this mail with:  આજ આનંદ મારા આંગણે
> રે લોલ! (Aaj aanand maara aangane re lol!) which means "Today is a joyous
> day for us!"
> Congratulations to the Gujarati community.
>
> Wishing Gujarati wiki community all the best.
>
> Warmest Regards,
>
> Shiju Alex
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Autobiography of Mahatma Gandhiji is added to Gujarati Wikisource

2012-05-02 Thread Ashwin Baindur
Hi Dhaval,

No doubt a great achievement and my very sincere congratulations. I
just wanted a clarification. This is very important! Have you checked
each word for correctness against the original text? Or is it OCR'd
text?

Sincerely

Ashwin

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 9:04 PM, Dhaval S. Vyas  wrote:
> Dear Shiju,
>
> Thanks a million for sharing this with the wider community.
>
> An update:
>
> The next collaborative work is already started and in just a week's time, it
> is almost 25% completed as well.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Dhaval
>
> On 2 May 2012 16:11, "Shiju Alex"  wrote:
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> On behalf the Gujarati community, I wanted to share a nice update.  On
>> 22nd April, Gujarati Wikisource reached a major milestone with the
>> completion of " સત્યના પ્રયોગો અથવા આત્મકથા" (Saty Naa Prayogo Athavaa
>> Aatmakathaa)  It is the Autobiography of Mahatma Gandhi (The story of my
>> experiments with truth).  This book has 454 pages in 169 chapters in 5
>> sections.
>>
>> The work to digitize this book was started less than 1 month before.
>>
>> The following Gujarati wiki librarians contributed to this project.
>>
>> સુશાંત સાવલા (Sushant Savla)
>> ધવલ વ્યાસ (Dhaval Vyas)
>> vyom25 (Vyom)
>> સતિષ પટેલ (Satish Chandra)
>> જેઠાભાઇ ઓડેદરા (Jethabhai Odedara)
>> અશોક મોઢવાડીયા (Ashok Modhavadia - Captain)
>> jaishree
>> Roopal Mehta
>> સંજય બાલોતિયા (Sanjay Balotia)
>> જીતેન્દ્રસિંહ (Jinedrasinh)
>> નિલેશ બંધીયા (Nilesha Bandhia)
>> Findjigar
>> દેવેન્દ્રસિંહ ગોહિલ (Devendrasinh Gohil)
>>
>> To me, this is actually the biggest part of this story!  13 wikilibrarians
>> from all over the world collaborated on this! That is amazing for
>> a relatively new community.
>>
>> I would like to acknowledge the contributions of Ashok Modhavadia from
>> Junagadh for managing the project, and for Sushant Savla and Dhaval Vyas for
>> being inspirations behind it.  Incidentally, Ashok managed the scanning of
>> all the pages, the allotment of chapters, and all other aspects of project
>> management.
>>
>> For anyone interested in how to manage a Wikisource initiative, do look at
>> the discussions on this page
>>
>>
>> [http://gu.wikisource.org/wiki/%E0%AA%9A%E0%AA%B0%E0%AB%8D%E0%AA%9A%E0%AA%BE:%E0%AA%B8%E0%AA%A4%E0%AB%8D%E0%AA%AF%E0%AA%A8%E0%AA%BE_%E0%AA%AA%E0%AB%8D%E0%AA%B0%E0%AA%AF%E0%AB%8B%E0%AA%97%E0%AB%8B_%E0%AA%85%E0%AA%A5%E0%AA%B5%E0%AA%BE_%E0%AA%86%E0%AA%A4%E0%AB%8D%E0%AA%AE%E0%AA%95%E0%AA%A5%E0%AA%BE]
>>
>> Digitization of the next book will be managed by Vyom.
>>
>> There is an lovely quote I will close this mail with:  આજ આનંદ મારા આંગણે
>> રે લોલ! (Aaj aanand maara aangane re lol!) which means "Today is a joyous
>> day for us!"
>> Congratulations to the Gujarati community.
>>
>> Wishing Gujarati wiki community all the best.
>>
>> Warmest Regards,
>>
>> Shiju Alex
>>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Autobiography of Mahatma Gandhiji is added to Gujarati Wikisource

2012-05-02 Thread Dhaval S. Vyas
Thanks Ashwin,

Not only this book, but the other one that is completed and the one
underway, are all proof read against original. These are all manually typed
and not OCR'd. Thanks to the lack of available OCR Tool/software for indic
scripts.

If you or anybody else here is aware of good and reliable tool for Indic,
especially Gujarati, script please share. That will help us upload book in
remarkably less time than it has taken.

Best,
Dhaval
 On 2 May 2012 17:01, "Ashwin Baindur"  wrote:

> Hi Dhaval,
>
> No doubt a great achievement and my very sincere congratulations. I
> just wanted a clarification. This is very important! Have you checked
> each word for correctness against the original text? Or is it OCR'd
> text?
>
> Sincerely
>
> Ashwin
>
> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 9:04 PM, Dhaval S. Vyas  wrote:
> > Dear Shiju,
> >
> > Thanks a million for sharing this with the wider community.
> >
> > An update:
> >
> > The next collaborative work is already started and in just a week's
> time, it
> > is almost 25% completed as well.
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> > Dhaval
> >
> > On 2 May 2012 16:11, "Shiju Alex"  wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear All,
> >>
> >> On behalf the Gujarati community, I wanted to share a nice update.  On
> >> 22nd April, Gujarati Wikisource reached a major milestone with the
> >> completion of " સત્યના પ્રયોગો અથવા આત્મકથા" (Saty Naa Prayogo Athavaa
> >> Aatmakathaa)  It is the Autobiography of Mahatma Gandhi (The story of my
> >> experiments with truth).  This book has 454 pages in 169 chapters in 5
> >> sections.
> >>
> >> The work to digitize this book was started less than 1 month before.
> >>
> >> The following Gujarati wiki librarians contributed to this project.
> >>
> >> સુશાંત સાવલા (Sushant Savla)
> >> ધવલ વ્યાસ (Dhaval Vyas)
> >> vyom25 (Vyom)
> >> સતિષ પટેલ (Satish Chandra)
> >> જેઠાભાઇ ઓડેદરા (Jethabhai Odedara)
> >> અશોક મોઢવાડીયા (Ashok Modhavadia - Captain)
> >> jaishree
> >> Roopal Mehta
> >> સંજય બાલોતિયા (Sanjay Balotia)
> >> જીતેન્દ્રસિંહ (Jinedrasinh)
> >> નિલેશ બંધીયા (Nilesha Bandhia)
> >> Findjigar
> >> દેવેન્દ્રસિંહ ગોહિલ (Devendrasinh Gohil)
> >>
> >> To me, this is actually the biggest part of this story!  13
> wikilibrarians
> >> from all over the world collaborated on this! That is amazing for
> >> a relatively new community.
> >>
> >> I would like to acknowledge the contributions of Ashok Modhavadia from
> >> Junagadh for managing the project, and for Sushant Savla and Dhaval
> Vyas for
> >> being inspirations behind it.  Incidentally, Ashok managed the scanning
> of
> >> all the pages, the allotment of chapters, and all other aspects of
> project
> >> management.
> >>
> >> For anyone interested in how to manage a Wikisource initiative, do look
> at
> >> the discussions on this page
> >>
> >>
> >> [
> http://gu.wikisource.org/wiki/%E0%AA%9A%E0%AA%B0%E0%AB%8D%E0%AA%9A%E0%AA%BE:%E0%AA%B8%E0%AA%A4%E0%AB%8D%E0%AA%AF%E0%AA%A8%E0%AA%BE_%E0%AA%AA%E0%AB%8D%E0%AA%B0%E0%AA%AF%E0%AB%8B%E0%AA%97%E0%AB%8B_%E0%AA%85%E0%AA%A5%E0%AA%B5%E0%AA%BE_%E0%AA%86%E0%AA%A4%E0%AB%8D%E0%AA%AE%E0%AA%95%E0%AA%A5%E0%AA%BE
> ]
> >>
> >> Digitization of the next book will be managed by Vyom.
> >>
> >> There is an lovely quote I will close this mail with:  આજ આનંદ મારા
> આંગણે
> >> રે લોલ! (Aaj aanand maara aangane re lol!) which means "Today is a
> joyous
> >> day for us!"
> >> Congratulations to the Gujarati community.
> >>
> >> Wishing Gujarati wiki community all the best.
> >>
> >> Warmest Regards,
> >>
> >> Shiju Alex
> >>
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>
> --
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>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Autobiography of Mahatma Gandhiji is added to Gujarati Wikisource

2012-05-02 Thread Ashwin Baindur
Hi Dhaval,

That is really very good to hear. We must maintain the highest
standards in all things WikiSource. Unlike Wikipedia, errors cannot be
allowed to co-exist. Well done to all Gujarati Wiki-Source-ians. Keep
yup your great work.

I request that this book may be please be got "officially" released to
gain publicity and attention to Gujarati WikiSource & the community.

Ashwin

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 9:56 PM, Dhaval S. Vyas  wrote:
> Thanks Ashwin,
>
> Not only this book, but the other one that is completed and the one
> underway, are all proof read against original. These are all manually typed
> and not OCR'd. Thanks to the lack of available OCR Tool/software for indic
> scripts.
>
> If you or anybody else here is aware of good and reliable tool for Indic,
> especially Gujarati, script please share. That will help us upload book in
> remarkably less time than it has taken.
>
> Best,
> Dhaval
>
> On 2 May 2012 17:01, "Ashwin Baindur"  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Dhaval,
>>
>> No doubt a great achievement and my very sincere congratulations. I
>> just wanted a clarification. This is very important! Have you checked
>> each word for correctness against the original text? Or is it OCR'd
>> text?
>>
>> Sincerely
>>
>> Ashwin
>>
>> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 9:04 PM, Dhaval S. Vyas  wrote:
>> > Dear Shiju,
>> >
>> > Thanks a million for sharing this with the wider community.
>> >
>> > An update:
>> >
>> > The next collaborative work is already started and in just a week's
>> > time, it
>> > is almost 25% completed as well.
>> >
>> > Kind Regards,
>> > Dhaval
>> >
>> > On 2 May 2012 16:11, "Shiju Alex"  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Dear All,
>> >>
>> >> On behalf the Gujarati community, I wanted to share a nice update.  On
>> >> 22nd April, Gujarati Wikisource reached a major milestone with the
>> >> completion of " સત્યના પ્રયોગો અથવા આત્મકથા" (Saty Naa Prayogo Athavaa
>> >> Aatmakathaa)  It is the Autobiography of Mahatma Gandhi (The story of
>> >> my
>> >> experiments with truth).  This book has 454 pages in 169 chapters in 5
>> >> sections.
>> >>
>> >> The work to digitize this book was started less than 1 month before.
>> >>
>> >> The following Gujarati wiki librarians contributed to this project.
>> >>
>> >> સુશાંત સાવલા (Sushant Savla)
>> >> ધવલ વ્યાસ (Dhaval Vyas)
>> >> vyom25 (Vyom)
>> >> સતિષ પટેલ (Satish Chandra)
>> >> જેઠાભાઇ ઓડેદરા (Jethabhai Odedara)
>> >> અશોક મોઢવાડીયા (Ashok Modhavadia - Captain)
>> >> jaishree
>> >> Roopal Mehta
>> >> સંજય બાલોતિયા (Sanjay Balotia)
>> >> જીતેન્દ્રસિંહ (Jinedrasinh)
>> >> નિલેશ બંધીયા (Nilesha Bandhia)
>> >> Findjigar
>> >> દેવેન્દ્રસિંહ ગોહિલ (Devendrasinh Gohil)
>> >>
>> >> To me, this is actually the biggest part of this story!  13
>> >> wikilibrarians
>> >> from all over the world collaborated on this! That is amazing for
>> >> a relatively new community.
>> >>
>> >> I would like to acknowledge the contributions of Ashok Modhavadia from
>> >> Junagadh for managing the project, and for Sushant Savla and Dhaval
>> >> Vyas for
>> >> being inspirations behind it.  Incidentally, Ashok managed the scanning
>> >> of
>> >> all the pages, the allotment of chapters, and all other aspects of
>> >> project
>> >> management.
>> >>
>> >> For anyone interested in how to manage a Wikisource initiative, do look
>> >> at
>> >> the discussions on this page
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> [http://gu.wikisource.org/wiki/%E0%AA%9A%E0%AA%B0%E0%AB%8D%E0%AA%9A%E0%AA%BE:%E0%AA%B8%E0%AA%A4%E0%AB%8D%E0%AA%AF%E0%AA%A8%E0%AA%BE_%E0%AA%AA%E0%AB%8D%E0%AA%B0%E0%AA%AF%E0%AB%8B%E0%AA%97%E0%AB%8B_%E0%AA%85%E0%AA%A5%E0%AA%B5%E0%AA%BE_%E0%AA%86%E0%AA%A4%E0%AB%8D%E0%AA%AE%E0%AA%95%E0%AA%A5%E0%AA%BE]
>> >>
>> >> Digitization of the next book will be managed by Vyom.
>> >>
>> >> There is an lovely quote I will close this mail with:  આજ આનંદ મારા
>> >> આંગણે
>> >> રે લોલ! (Aaj aanand maara aangane re lol!) which means "Today is a
>> >> joyous
>> >> day for us!"
>> >> Congratulations to the Gujarati community.
>> >>
>> >> Wishing Gujarati wiki community all the best.
>> >>
>> >> Warmest Regards,
>> >>
>> >> Shiju Alex
>> >>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Autobiography of Mahatma Gandhiji is added to Gujarati Wikisource

2012-05-02 Thread Dhaval S. Vyas
Thanks once again Ashwin,

I have been considering to release the books officially, but unfortunately,
PDF conversion is not working with Gujarati. The bug is filed a while ago,
and I have been told that it may get quite a long time to fix the issue.
Without having capability of exporting the page as PDF or preparing a book,
I won't really feel to rush for the book release.

Regards,
Dhaval

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Ashwin Baindur wrote:

> Hi Dhaval,
>
> That is really very good to hear. We must maintain the highest
> standards in all things WikiSource. Unlike Wikipedia, errors cannot be
> allowed to co-exist. Well done to all Gujarati Wiki-Source-ians. Keep
> yup your great work.
>
> I request that this book may be please be got "officially" released to
> gain publicity and attention to Gujarati WikiSource & the community.
>
> Ashwin
>
> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 9:56 PM, Dhaval S. Vyas  wrote:
> > Thanks Ashwin,
> >
> > Not only this book, but the other one that is completed and the one
> > underway, are all proof read against original. These are all manually
> typed
> > and not OCR'd. Thanks to the lack of available OCR Tool/software for
> indic
> > scripts.
> >
> > If you or anybody else here is aware of good and reliable tool for Indic,
> > especially Gujarati, script please share. That will help us upload book
> in
> > remarkably less time than it has taken.
> >
> > Best,
> > Dhaval
> >
> > On 2 May 2012 17:01, "Ashwin Baindur"  wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Dhaval,
> >>
> >> No doubt a great achievement and my very sincere congratulations. I
> >> just wanted a clarification. This is very important! Have you checked
> >> each word for correctness against the original text? Or is it OCR'd
> >> text?
> >>
> >> Sincerely
> >>
> >> Ashwin
> >>
> >> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 9:04 PM, Dhaval S. Vyas 
> wrote:
> >> > Dear Shiju,
> >> >
> >> > Thanks a million for sharing this with the wider community.
> >> >
> >> > An update:
> >> >
> >> > The next collaborative work is already started and in just a week's
> >> > time, it
> >> > is almost 25% completed as well.
> >> >
> >> > Kind Regards,
> >> > Dhaval
> >> >
> >> > On 2 May 2012 16:11, "Shiju Alex"  wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Dear All,
> >> >>
> >> >> On behalf the Gujarati community, I wanted to share a nice update.
>  On
> >> >> 22nd April, Gujarati Wikisource reached a major milestone with the
> >> >> completion of " સત્યના પ્રયોગો અથવા આત્મકથા" (Saty Naa Prayogo
> Athavaa
> >> >> Aatmakathaa)  It is the Autobiography of Mahatma Gandhi (The story of
> >> >> my
> >> >> experiments with truth).  This book has 454 pages in 169 chapters in
> 5
> >> >> sections.
> >> >>
> >> >> The work to digitize this book was started less than 1 month before.
> >> >>
> >> >> The following Gujarati wiki librarians contributed to this project.
> >> >>
> >> >> સુશાંત સાવલા (Sushant Savla)
> >> >> ધવલ વ્યાસ (Dhaval Vyas)
> >> >> vyom25 (Vyom)
> >> >> સતિષ પટેલ (Satish Chandra)
> >> >> જેઠાભાઇ ઓડેદરા (Jethabhai Odedara)
> >> >> અશોક મોઢવાડીયા (Ashok Modhavadia - Captain)
> >> >> jaishree
> >> >> Roopal Mehta
> >> >> સંજય બાલોતિયા (Sanjay Balotia)
> >> >> જીતેન્દ્રસિંહ (Jinedrasinh)
> >> >> નિલેશ બંધીયા (Nilesha Bandhia)
> >> >> Findjigar
> >> >> દેવેન્દ્રસિંહ ગોહિલ (Devendrasinh Gohil)
> >> >>
> >> >> To me, this is actually the biggest part of this story!  13
> >> >> wikilibrarians
> >> >> from all over the world collaborated on this! That is amazing for
> >> >> a relatively new community.
> >> >>
> >> >> I would like to acknowledge the contributions of Ashok Modhavadia
> from
> >> >> Junagadh for managing the project, and for Sushant Savla and Dhaval
> >> >> Vyas for
> >> >> being inspirations behind it.  Incidentally, Ashok managed the
> scanning
> >> >> of
> >> >> all the pages, the allotment of chapters, and all other aspects of
> >> >> project
> >> >> management.
> >> >>
> >> >> For anyone interested in how to manage a Wikisource initiative, do
> look
> >> >> at
> >> >> the discussions on this page
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> [
> http://gu.wikisource.org/wiki/%E0%AA%9A%E0%AA%B0%E0%AB%8D%E0%AA%9A%E0%AA%BE:%E0%AA%B8%E0%AA%A4%E0%AB%8D%E0%AA%AF%E0%AA%A8%E0%AA%BE_%E0%AA%AA%E0%AB%8D%E0%AA%B0%E0%AA%AF%E0%AB%8B%E0%AA%97%E0%AB%8B_%E0%AA%85%E0%AA%A5%E0%AA%B5%E0%AA%BE_%E0%AA%86%E0%AA%A4%E0%AB%8D%E0%AA%AE%E0%AA%95%E0%AA%A5%E0%AA%BE
> ]
> >> >>
> >> >> Digitization of the next book will be managed by Vyom.
> >> >>
> >> >> There is an lovely quote I will close this mail with:  આજ આનંદ મારા
> >> >> આંગણે
> >> >> રે લોલ! (Aaj aanand maara aangane re lol!) which means "Today is a
> >> >> joyous
> >> >> day for us!"
> >> >> Congratulations to the Gujarati community.
> >> >>
> >> >> Wishing Gujarati wiki community all the best.
> >> >>
> >> >> Warmest Regards,
> >> >>
> >> >> Shiju Alex
> >> >>
> >> >> ___
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedians work for personal satisfaction, not politics or personal gain

2012-05-02 Thread Barry Newstead (WMF)
Hi - 

I was simply stating my observation that the Malayalam community seems to be a 
great group doing great work like many in our community. I like the fact that 
they don't seem to be locked up in some of the politics/disputes that happen 
elsewhere in the Wikimedia community around the world. That's all.  

More broadly, I had a terrific visit! I had very productive discussions and 
learned a lot with the Malayalam community at their conference. We had a great 
meetup in Bangalore on Sunday where we discussed several projects including 
Kannada, Telugu and Sanskrit.  I had a good meeting with Arjuna  on Saturday 
and then Hisham and I had a good lunch with Arjuna and Arum on moving forward 
with opportunities for collaboration between the chapter and India Program.  I 
also had a good day with the India Program team in Delhi on their current and 
upcoming work plans. Finally, Hisham and I were invited to meet with the Board 
of Trustees of the Centre for Internet & Society in Bangalore and we had a good 
discussion with Sunil Abraham, their Executive Director. Needless to say, I got 
very little sleep jumping around the country and am quite exhausted at the 
moment, but it was worth the hectic travel. 

Many thanks to the ML community for inviting me to Kollam (I'll definitely be 
back to see more of Kerala), to those who came to the Bangalore meetup, to CIS, 
the India Program team and to Arjuna and Arun for a good discussion (and for 
buying lunch).

Best,
Barry



-- 
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Chief Global Development Officer
Wikimedia Foundation


On Sunday, April 29, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Arjun Mangol Kanoth wrote:

> Whoa, whoa, guys, chill! No names!! The comment was perfectly normal, nothing 
> hidden directed at anyone, and we need to stop making baseless assumptions. 
> Man, the word 'politics' is seriously jinxed!.
> 
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 3:02 AM, Anirudh Bhati  (mailto:anirudh...@gmail.com)> wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:43 AM, Debanjan Bandyopadhyay 
> > mailto:debast...@gmail.com)> wrote:
> > > Seriously? I don't mean to be rude here but I'd really don't think that 
> > > is the way it was meant to be interpreted. I mean, if I say Ashwin is 
> > > kind-hearted, doesn't mean I'm calling every other community member 
> > > heartless. My two paise.
> > 
> > For a proper interpretation, you will have to look at the statement in 
> > context and some of the discussion threads from the past few weeks.  There 
> > is a difference between saying "Debastein, you are amazing!" and 
> > "Debastein, you are not a wife-beater."  The later naturally raises the 
> > presumption that you have a wife and casts doubt as to whether you really 
> > beat her? :) 
> > 
> > In any case, I would like to hear from Barry on this.  Thanks.
> >  
> > > 
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[Wikimediaindia-l] IRC office hours preferences

2012-05-02 Thread Steven Walling
Hi all,

WMF Exec. Director Sue Gardner has started a poll about the preferred times
for IRC office hours. This is for any team or person holding the office
hours, and if Indian Wikimedians could contribute to this it will help
inform when staff hold these meetings.

The link is: http://doodle.com/hnivrcvz3t5sf2gf#table

Thank you!

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[Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Selection of winning bid for Wikimania 2013: Hong Kong

2012-05-02 Thread Naveen Francis
Winning bid for Wikimania 2013: Hong Kong

--
naveenpf

-- Forwarded message --
From: James Forrester 
Date: Wed, May 2, 2012 at 4:52 PM
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Selection of winning bid for Wikimania 2013: Hong
Kong
To: "Wikimania general list (open subscription)" <
wikimani...@lists.wikimedia.org>, wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org


On behalf of the Wikimania 2013[0] selection Jury[1], I can announce
that we have awarded the conference to Hong Kong. Congratulations to
the bidding team, and to the London team who also did a particularly
excellent job.

There were five official bids: Bristol, Naples and Surakarta, as well
as the two finalists of Hong Kong and London[2]. The Jury and the
bidding teams discussed them in three public IRC meetings in April. We
determined that Hong Kong and London were the strongest contenders,
and decided to focus on these two as the finalists. After further
e-mail enquiries, and considering evaluation by Wikimedia Foundation
staff, a final, private meeting was held to reach a final decision.

The Jury was pleased by the high quality in both the final bids, and
required over three hours' discussion to reach the final verdict. We
considered each bid according to the criteria[3], focussing on
following factors: Venue, Program, Geo-location & Logistics, Local
Opportunities, Accommodations, Team & Chapter, and Budget & Finances.
We found consensus that the Hong Kong bid was the stronger, especially
because of their strong advance planning; solid support by the local
Wikimedia Chapter, the community, local government, and a partner
organisation that is experienced in planning conferences; and their
good combination of venue and accommodation.

The Jury has confidence that the Hong Kong bidding team will pull off
a magnificent Wikimania, and we are pleased for our global community
to return to Asia once again. With a motivated group of volunteers who
have experience in organizing smaller Wikimedia activities, and a
partner with experience in organizing larger-scale events, they have
found a good mix to create a successful conference. The Jury did also
identify some weaker points in each the bids, and will be happy to
share those privately with the teams so that the Hong Kong team can
use that to their advantage in organizing Wikimania 2013, and the
other teams can use the feedback to improve their bids for a future
year.

We thank all candidate teams - the process is gruelling and requires a
very substantial time investment. They are all to be commended for
their submissions.

To use this soap-box for a moment, as Moderator I would like to remind
the community that we hope that this time was the last that we use
this ad-hoc process to decide on the Wikimania venue, and encourage
everyone to engage with the discussion on Meta[4] about how we might
select Wikimania 2014 and beyond in a more open, community-led way.
Please, do join in the discussions.

Yours,

James Forrester
Moderator, Wikimania 2013 Jury
For the Wikimania 2013 Jury

[0] - https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2013
[1] - https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2013_jury
[2] - https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2013_bids
[3] - https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2013_judging_criteria
[4] - https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_Advisory_Group
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Autobiography of Mahatma Gandhiji is added to Gujarati Wikisource

2012-05-02 Thread John Vandenberg
Hi Dhaval,

What is the bug number?

Has the PDF been uploaded to Commons?

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 4:02 AM, Dhaval S. Vyas  wrote:
> Thanks once again Ashwin,
>
> I have been considering to release the books officially, but unfortunately,
> PDF conversion is not working with Gujarati. The bug is filed a while ago,
> and I have been told that it may get quite a long time to fix the issue.
> Without having capability of exporting the page as PDF or preparing a book,
> I won't really feel to rush for the book release.
>
> Regards,
> Dhaval
>
>
> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Ashwin Baindur 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Dhaval,
>>
>> That is really very good to hear. We must maintain the highest
>> standards in all things WikiSource. Unlike Wikipedia, errors cannot be
>> allowed to co-exist. Well done to all Gujarati Wiki-Source-ians. Keep
>> yup your great work.
>>
>> I request that this book may be please be got "officially" released to
>> gain publicity and attention to Gujarati WikiSource & the community.
>>
>> Ashwin
>>
>> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 9:56 PM, Dhaval S. Vyas  wrote:
>> > Thanks Ashwin,
>> >
>> > Not only this book, but the other one that is completed and the one
>> > underway, are all proof read against original. These are all manually
>> > typed
>> > and not OCR'd. Thanks to the lack of available OCR Tool/software for
>> > indic
>> > scripts.
>> >
>> > If you or anybody else here is aware of good and reliable tool for
>> > Indic,
>> > especially Gujarati, script please share. That will help us upload book
>> > in
>> > remarkably less time than it has taken.
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > Dhaval
>> >
>> > On 2 May 2012 17:01, "Ashwin Baindur"  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi Dhaval,
>> >>
>> >> No doubt a great achievement and my very sincere congratulations. I
>> >> just wanted a clarification. This is very important! Have you checked
>> >> each word for correctness against the original text? Or is it OCR'd
>> >> text?
>> >>
>> >> Sincerely
>> >>
>> >> Ashwin
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 9:04 PM, Dhaval S. Vyas 
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Dear Shiju,
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks a million for sharing this with the wider community.
>> >> >
>> >> > An update:
>> >> >
>> >> > The next collaborative work is already started and in just a week's
>> >> > time, it
>> >> > is almost 25% completed as well.
>> >> >
>> >> > Kind Regards,
>> >> > Dhaval
>> >> >
>> >> > On 2 May 2012 16:11, "Shiju Alex"  wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Dear All,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On behalf the Gujarati community, I wanted to share a nice update.
>> >> >>  On
>> >> >> 22nd April, Gujarati Wikisource reached a major milestone with the
>> >> >> completion of " સત્યના પ્રયોગો અથવા આત્મકથા" (Saty Naa Prayogo
>> >> >> Athavaa
>> >> >> Aatmakathaa)  It is the Autobiography of Mahatma Gandhi (The story
>> >> >> of
>> >> >> my
>> >> >> experiments with truth).  This book has 454 pages in 169 chapters in
>> >> >> 5
>> >> >> sections.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The work to digitize this book was started less than 1 month before.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The following Gujarati wiki librarians contributed to this project.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> સુશાંત સાવલા (Sushant Savla)
>> >> >> ધવલ વ્યાસ (Dhaval Vyas)
>> >> >> vyom25 (Vyom)
>> >> >> સતિષ પટેલ (Satish Chandra)
>> >> >> જેઠાભાઇ ઓડેદરા (Jethabhai Odedara)
>> >> >> અશોક મોઢવાડીયા (Ashok Modhavadia - Captain)
>> >> >> jaishree
>> >> >> Roopal Mehta
>> >> >> સંજય બાલોતિયા (Sanjay Balotia)
>> >> >> જીતેન્દ્રસિંહ (Jinedrasinh)
>> >> >> નિલેશ બંધીયા (Nilesha Bandhia)
>> >> >> Findjigar
>> >> >> દેવેન્દ્રસિંહ ગોહિલ (Devendrasinh Gohil)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> To me, this is actually the biggest part of this story!  13
>> >> >> wikilibrarians
>> >> >> from all over the world collaborated on this! That is amazing for
>> >> >> a relatively new community.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I would like to acknowledge the contributions of Ashok Modhavadia
>> >> >> from
>> >> >> Junagadh for managing the project, and for Sushant Savla and Dhaval
>> >> >> Vyas for
>> >> >> being inspirations behind it.  Incidentally, Ashok managed the
>> >> >> scanning
>> >> >> of
>> >> >> all the pages, the allotment of chapters, and all other aspects of
>> >> >> project
>> >> >> management.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> For anyone interested in how to manage a Wikisource initiative, do
>> >> >> look
>> >> >> at
>> >> >> the discussions on this page
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> [http://gu.wikisource.org/wiki/%E0%AA%9A%E0%AA%B0%E0%AB%8D%E0%AA%9A%E0%AA%BE:%E0%AA%B8%E0%AA%A4%E0%AB%8D%E0%AA%AF%E0%AA%A8%E0%AA%BE_%E0%AA%AA%E0%AB%8D%E0%AA%B0%E0%AA%AF%E0%AB%8B%E0%AA%97%E0%AB%8B_%E0%AA%85%E0%AA%A5%E0%AA%B5%E0%AA%BE_%E0%AA%86%E0%AA%A4%E0%AB%8D%E0%AA%AE%E0%AA%95%E0%AA%A5%E0%AA%BE]
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Digitization of the next book will be managed by Vyom.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> There is an lovely quote I will close this mail with:  આજ આનંદ મારા
>> >> >> આંગણે
>> >> >> રે લોલ! (Aaj aanand maara aangane re lol!) which means "Today is a
>> >> >> joyous
>> >> >> day for us!"
>> >> >> Congratulations to the Gujarati co

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Autobiography of Mahatma Gandhiji is added to Gujarati Wikisource

2012-05-02 Thread Arjuna Rao Chavala
Hi All,

Delighted to hear this update. Congratulations to all who were involved
with this effort.

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 11:32 PM, Dhaval S. Vyas  wrote:

> Thanks once again Ashwin,
>
> I have been considering to release the books officially, but
> unfortunately, PDF conversion is not working with Gujarati. The bug is
> filed a while ago, and I have been told that it may get quite a long time
> to fix the issue. Without having capability of exporting the page as PDF or
> preparing a book, I won't really feel to rush for the book release.
>

You can create PDF via export to Open document type format and then
reworking in Libreoffice Writer.

I have done such a thing for the introductory book on Ubuntu in
Telugu.from
Wikibooks. Here is a
presentationon
how it was done.

Let me know if you need clarifications.


Regards
Arjuna
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Autobiography of Mahatma Gandhiji is added to Gujarati Wikisource

2012-05-02 Thread Shiju Alex
>
> What is the bug number?
> Has the PDF been uploaded to Commons?



John, this is related to the PDF export option in Wiki. The current
solution  won't support Indic scripts.  There are several bugs related to
this. One is this. https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28206


An alternate solution (not a good solution) is using LibreOffice by copying
text and format the text outside wiki. But I hope a solution will come as
we move forward. I know Santhosh was working on this earlier. Do not know
its status now.



Shiju

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 7:01 AM, John Vandenberg  wrote:

> Hi Dhaval,
>
> What is the bug number?
>
> Has the PDF been uploaded to Commons?
>
> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 4:02 AM, Dhaval S. Vyas  wrote:
> > Thanks once again Ashwin,
> >
> > I have been considering to release the books officially, but
> unfortunately,
> > PDF conversion is not working with Gujarati. The bug is filed a while
> ago,
> > and I have been told that it may get quite a long time to fix the issue.
> > Without having capability of exporting the page as PDF or preparing a
> book,
> > I won't really feel to rush for the book release.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dhaval
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Ashwin Baindur  >
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Dhaval,
> >>
> >> That is really very good to hear. We must maintain the highest
> >> standards in all things WikiSource. Unlike Wikipedia, errors cannot be
> >> allowed to co-exist. Well done to all Gujarati Wiki-Source-ians. Keep
> >> yup your great work.
> >>
> >> I request that this book may be please be got "officially" released to
> >> gain publicity and attention to Gujarati WikiSource & the community.
> >>
> >> Ashwin
> >>
> >> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 9:56 PM, Dhaval S. Vyas 
> wrote:
> >> > Thanks Ashwin,
> >> >
> >> > Not only this book, but the other one that is completed and the one
> >> > underway, are all proof read against original. These are all manually
> >> > typed
> >> > and not OCR'd. Thanks to the lack of available OCR Tool/software for
> >> > indic
> >> > scripts.
> >> >
> >> > If you or anybody else here is aware of good and reliable tool for
> >> > Indic,
> >> > especially Gujarati, script please share. That will help us upload
> book
> >> > in
> >> > remarkably less time than it has taken.
> >> >
> >> > Best,
> >> > Dhaval
> >> >
> >> > On 2 May 2012 17:01, "Ashwin Baindur" 
> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi Dhaval,
> >> >>
> >> >> No doubt a great achievement and my very sincere congratulations. I
> >> >> just wanted a clarification. This is very important! Have you checked
> >> >> each word for correctness against the original text? Or is it OCR'd
> >> >> text?
> >> >>
> >> >> Sincerely
> >> >>
> >> >> Ashwin
> >> >>
> >> >> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 9:04 PM, Dhaval S. Vyas 
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> > Dear Shiju,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks a million for sharing this with the wider community.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > An update:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The next collaborative work is already started and in just a week's
> >> >> > time, it
> >> >> > is almost 25% completed as well.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Kind Regards,
> >> >> > Dhaval
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On 2 May 2012 16:11, "Shiju Alex"  wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Dear All,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On behalf the Gujarati community, I wanted to share a nice update.
> >> >> >>  On
> >> >> >> 22nd April, Gujarati Wikisource reached a major milestone with the
> >> >> >> completion of " સત્યના પ્રયોગો અથવા આત્મકથા" (Saty Naa Prayogo
> >> >> >> Athavaa
> >> >> >> Aatmakathaa)  It is the Autobiography of Mahatma Gandhi (The story
> >> >> >> of
> >> >> >> my
> >> >> >> experiments with truth).  This book has 454 pages in 169 chapters
> in
> >> >> >> 5
> >> >> >> sections.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> The work to digitize this book was started less than 1 month
> before.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> The following Gujarati wiki librarians contributed to this
> project.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> સુશાંત સાવલા (Sushant Savla)
> >> >> >> ધવલ વ્યાસ (Dhaval Vyas)
> >> >> >> vyom25 (Vyom)
> >> >> >> સતિષ પટેલ (Satish Chandra)
> >> >> >> જેઠાભાઇ ઓડેદરા (Jethabhai Odedara)
> >> >> >> અશોક મોઢવાડીયા (Ashok Modhavadia - Captain)
> >> >> >> jaishree
> >> >> >> Roopal Mehta
> >> >> >> સંજય બાલોતિયા (Sanjay Balotia)
> >> >> >> જીતેન્દ્રસિંહ (Jinedrasinh)
> >> >> >> નિલેશ બંધીયા (Nilesha Bandhia)
> >> >> >> Findjigar
> >> >> >> દેવેન્દ્રસિંહ ગોહિલ (Devendrasinh Gohil)
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> To me, this is actually the biggest part of this story!  13
> >> >> >> wikilibrarians
> >> >> >> from all over the world collaborated on this! That is amazing for
> >> >> >> a relatively new community.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I would like to acknowledge the contributions of Ashok Modhavadia
> >> >> >> from
> >> >> >> Junagadh for managing the project, and for Sushant Savla and
> Dhaval
> >> >> >> Vyas for
> >> >> >> being inspirations behind it.  Incidentally, Ashok managed the
> >> >> >> scanning
> >> >> >> of
> >> >> >> all the pages, the allotment of chapters, and all other asp