Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] women and technology

[swetapadma d. satpathy]

A very good read and truly written.

Regards,
Swetapadma


On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Arun Ramarathnam wrote:

> Thanks for sharing this Tejaswini. Made interesting read. Good to see
> wikipedians mentioned in the article.
>
> Interesting to note the article mention the following...
>
> *When at the workshop, the girls began to create articles on Wiki, male
> editors were quick to pull them down. “This can be intimidating for
> anyone, and more so for girls.” Instead of spending the time creating a
> template to delete, she wishes her male friends would just “be more
> supportive” and encourage those who step in to what is surely a
> male-dominated world of code.
> *
>
> Makes me wonder if it is to be deemed as the case of male editors pulling
> the pages down. Or is  it the case of experienced editors being less
> tolerant and not encouraging to most  new editors irrespective of their
> gender. I believe it more often than not the second.
>
> To share another incident to illustrate the point. There was another 
> Women's
> Wikipedia 
> workshoprunning
>  in town wikipedian Omshivaprakash  was working with a new lady
> editor to take her through the paces of a new article title "Nalini 
> Nayak".
> This was being shown on a  projector for the rest of the lady participants
> to watch and learn. And lo and behold we had an editor for nowhere slap a
> "Speedy Delete" notice on a  page that had no grounds for it. At best one
> could Afd-ed it and have questioned the merits of "noteability".
>
> We all know the treatment of new editors... they have a rough time getting
> on to wikipedia and this issue is widely acknowledged. We also know we have
> very few women editors. But we ought to be careful  to not project this as
> a case of male editors being non supportive of women, (which may not be the
> case).
>
> Perhaps the above reference in the article was the interpretation of the
> news reporter or perhaps even a misquote (which happens often in the media
> too).
>
> For the record the Women's workshop that I referred to was co-organised by
> many "supportive" men keen to bridge the gender gap in wikipedia - Om,
> Soumyan, Pavanaja and yours truly. Of course the event was led by a very
> capable and enthusiastic lady wikipedian Pavithra!
>
> We surely need the experienced editors to be a whole lot more sensitive
> and to be careful not to  
> "*Bite*"
> new editors (irrespective of gender). There also appears to be a template
> {{this is a new user
> }} that new users can sport on their user pages.
>
> Have a good weekend everyone!
>
> regards
> Arun
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Tejaswini Niranjana wrote:
>
>> Nice to see Nikita's name in the article.
>>
>>
>> http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/bangalore/girls-try-to-break-into-an-old-boys-club/article4492068.ece?homepage=true
>>
>> --
>> Tejaswini Niranjana, PhD
>> Lead Researcher - Higher Education Innovation and Research Applications
>> (HEIRA)
>> Senior Fellow - Centre for the Study of Culture and Society (CSCS)
>> Visiting Professor - Tata Institute of Social Sciences (TISS)
>> Visiting Faculty - Centre for Contemporary Studies, Indian Institute
>> of Science (CCS-IISc)
>>
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>> f: 91-80-26730722
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] women and technology

[Arun Ramarathnam]

Thanks for sharing this Tejaswini. Made interesting read. Good to see
wikipedians mentioned in the article.

Interesting to note the article mention the following...

*When at the workshop, the girls began to create articles on Wiki, male
editors were quick to pull them down. “This can be intimidating for anyone,
and more so for girls.” Instead of spending the time creating a template to
delete, she wishes her male friends would just “be more supportive” and
encourage those who step in to what is surely a male-dominated world of
code.
*

Makes me wonder if it is to be deemed as the case of male editors pulling
the pages down. Or is  it the case of experienced editors being less
tolerant and not encouraging to most  new editors irrespective of their
gender. I believe it more often than not the second.

To share another incident to illustrate the point. There was
another Women's
Wikipedia 
workshoprunning
in town wikipedian Omshivaprakash  was working with a new lady
editor to take her through the paces of a new article title "Nalini
Nayak".
This was being shown on a  projector for the rest of the lady participants
to watch and learn. And lo and behold we had an editor for nowhere slap a
"Speedy Delete" notice on a  page that had no grounds for it. At best one
could Afd-ed it and have questioned the merits of "noteability".

We all know the treatment of new editors... they have a rough time getting
on to wikipedia and this issue is widely acknowledged. We also know we have
very few women editors. But we ought to be careful  to not project this as
a case of male editors being non supportive of women, (which may not be the
case).

Perhaps the above reference in the article was the interpretation of the
news reporter or perhaps even a misquote (which happens often in the media
too).

For the record the Women's workshop that I referred to was co-organised by
many "supportive" men keen to bridge the gender gap in wikipedia - Om,
Soumyan, Pavanaja and yours truly. Of course the event was led by a very
capable and enthusiastic lady wikipedian Pavithra!

We surely need the experienced editors to be a whole lot more sensitive and
to be careful not to
"*Bite*"
new editors (irrespective of gender). There also appears to be a template
{{this is a new user
}} that new users can sport on their user pages.

Have a good weekend everyone!

regards
Arun



On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Tejaswini Niranjana wrote:

> Nice to see Nikita's name in the article.
>
>
> http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/bangalore/girls-try-to-break-into-an-old-boys-club/article4492068.ece?homepage=true
>
> --
> Tejaswini Niranjana, PhD
> Lead Researcher - Higher Education Innovation and Research Applications
> (HEIRA)
> Senior Fellow - Centre for the Study of Culture and Society (CSCS)
> Visiting Professor - Tata Institute of Social Sciences (TISS)
> Visiting Faculty - Centre for Contemporary Studies, Indian Institute
> of Science (CCS-IISc)
>
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> f: 91-80-26730722
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[Wikimediaindia-l] women and technology

[Tejaswini Niranjana]

Nice to see Nikita's name in the article.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/bangalore/girls-try-to-break-into-an-old-boys-club/article4492068.ece?homepage=true

-- 
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Lead Researcher - Higher Education Innovation and Research Applications
(HEIRA)
Senior Fellow - Centre for the Study of Culture and Society (CSCS)
Visiting Professor - Tata Institute of Social Sciences (TISS)
Visiting Faculty - Centre for Contemporary Studies, Indian Institute
of Science (CCS-IISc)

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f: 91-80-26730722
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] The man who edited Tamil Wikipedia from prison.

[ansuman]

Thanks for sharing!

Regards,
Ansuman 
*ଓଡ଼ିଆ ଉଇକିପିଡ଼ିଆ *


On 9 March 2013 10:43, Rahmanuddin Shaik  wrote:

> Truly inspiring story. Thank you for sharing Ravi.
>
> On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 10:19 PM, Ravishankar  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I wanted to share this real life story of a man who edited Tamil
>> wikipedia from prison !
>>
>> Meet Muthukrishnan ( http://ta.wikipedia.org/s/fcl ) from Malaysia. He
>> is a retired school teacher and writer. He uses most of his spare time for
>> writing detailed articles about Malaysia and Tamils in Malaysia. He is so
>> involved in Wikipedia that once he personally visited the grave of a
>> personality to write an article on him !
>>
>> Few weeks back, he was arrested by the Malaysian police on a case that
>> challenged his freedom of expression for an article he wrote in a magazine
>> (just to make it clear that he didn't create a real "crime" to land in
>> prison). He was out of the prison in couple of days.
>>
>> What touched me a lot was that he provided an update in his wiki user
>> page that he is in prison and that he will be back soon! He used the laptop
>> of his grand daughter who visited him in the prison and made this edit
>> under the supervision of the prison guards !
>>
>> He sees his contributions to Wikipedia as his lifetime work beyond the
>> search for survival and wealth. He calls his 12 year old grand daughter as
>> his inspiration to keep writing in Wikipedia.
>>
>> Can people be so dedicated to a movement ? !
>>
>> Do you have such stories in your project that inspire you? It is time to
>> share, inspire and infuse new blood in the movement !
>>
>> Ravi
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Women's Day events in India, March 8

[Netha Hussain]

Dear all,

   There is one more day left for participating in the first online
edit-a-thon happening in connection with International women's day
celebrations in India. Thirteen new articles have been created as a part of
the edit-a-thon. Volunteers from Malayalam, Telugu, Kannada and Hindi have
initiated edit-a-thons in their respective languages and have produced
wonderful results so far.

If you are interested in creating/expanding articles related to women, sign
up today on the event page here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/International_Women%27s_Day,_India

A news report about the women's day events was posted by Vaishali Chitnis
on Loksatta newspaper. The news report can be read here:
http://www.loksatta.com/mumbai-news/wikipedia-celebrate-international-womens-day-75560/

Thanks

User: Netha Hussain


On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Rohini Lakshané
wrote:

> A few online and offline events are being conducted in on the occasion of
> International Women's Day on March 8. The events continue thereafter too as
> March has been declared as Women's History Month.
>
> There is a Wikipedia editing workshop in Goa on March 8 at Nirmala
> Institute of Education from 3 pm to 5 pm. It is followed by an offline and
> online editathon.
> The online editathon is a month-long affair, which will be held every
> weekend starting with the weekend after March 8.
> Details here:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/International_Women%27s_Day,_India
>
> The goal of the month-long event is to encourage more women to contribute
> to Wikipedia and increase representation of articles related to women in
> Wikipedia. The event aims at creating new articles, expanding the existing
> stubs and translating English articles to various Indian languages.
>
>
> Members are requested to start edithons in regional language Wikipedias.
>
> Regards,
> Rohini Lakshane
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WMIN-Members] Appointment of new SIG chair

[Vishnu t]

Congratulations, Rohini!

Best,
Vishnu


On 9 March 2013 11:45, Bishakha Datta  wrote:

> Nice! Congratulations, Rohini, and look forward to more wiki women
> workshops and other related stuff.
>
> Best
> Bishakha
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 12:39 AM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar <
> sudhanwa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Congrats Rohini!!
>>
>> All the best wishes to you!!
>>
>> Regards
>> -Sudhanwa
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Rohini Lakshané
>>  wrote:
>> > Thank you everyone for giving me this opportunity -- those who voted
>> for me,
>> > Krutikaa and Netha who nominated me, and the members of the EC who
>> conducted
>> > the election process.
>> >
>> > On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan
>> >  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Heya, this is inform you that Rohini Lakshane has been appointed as
>> >> the chair of the Gender-gap SIG. This was the first nomination for an
>> >> SIG chair where there were other candidates, in this case Pavithra H.
>> >> Rohini was nominated and seconded by Krutikaa Jawanjal and Netha
>> >> Hussain, and got 20 votes in her favour, the highest in any Wikimedia
>> >> India voting process, beating Karthik's record of 19 votes in
>> >> September 2012. Rohini can be contacted on roh...@wikimedia.in
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] interesting news

[Vickram Crishna]

While this is not, per se, a subject directly for this list, I feel that as
many Wikimedians as possible ought to appreciate the subtle establishment
of hegemony here.

ICANN is an independent body, true, but it has been seen in the past to act
in favour of US interests, in case of significant conflict of interest. For
good reason, many people opine that continuing effort needs to be made to
maintain the nature of the Web (the whole Net, actually, but most people
really don't perceive anything beyond the Web) and not allow governments to
acquire control. Worryingly, the interests of governments and private
sector corporations are also being seen as aligned, although it is very
clear that corporate control is in the hands of a very small number of
individuals (ref an analysis published in New Scientist last year, 155
individuals effectively control the 48,000 top global corporations).

This was recently quite naked, with an ITU meeting in Dubai where an effort
was made to hand over control of ICANN to a governing body drawn from the
diplomatic corps of 55 countries.

This move was evidently authored, behind the scenes, by India, hence my
raising it here.

Now that ICANN has made its move to establish a framework for the
other-than-English Web, we see that the Indian government is playing God
(DeITy, the official acronym of the department of electronics) in terms of
controlling the transitional phase. Some listmembers will recall this same
department, a dozen years ago, did nothing to cut access costs until
presented with NIXI, the switch that is supposed to keep local traffic
local, which it simply annexed, without even a show of hands, or a flag
march, the way that traditional takeovers of territory used to be
accomplished. Incidentally, this switch still does precious little to keep
local traffic local, and is instead used primarily for surveillance of
Indian IP users, and to facilitate website blocking. It has a second job,
the registrar for tld .in, and here too, there are concerns about its
functioning (e.g., the domain iipm.in is apparently registered with a false
declaration of physical address, but no action has been taken against the
owner. Indeed, some 60 odd urls were blocked at this same outfit's behest a
few weeks back, despite the fact that the accompanying court order was very
likely mala fide – one of the urls was a page of the UGC website, for
instance).

As Wikimedians, we face some struggle to ensure our rights are not
constrained, especially the right to freedom of expression and its obverse,
freedom of information.

While it is great to know that some effort will be made to ensure Indian
content creators will now have a straightforward way to bring people to
Indian-language pages, I question how much effort has been made and is
being made on the ground. For instance, to what extent has the team
building the Android uploader been supported, and what is the roadmap to an
Android local language content creation app? I'm not saying nothing has
been done, I'm just saying I don't know, and I would like to hear from our
local players.

Also, I somehow sense a certain amount of arrogance in the remark that Web
creators in Chennai don't know how to use Tamil typing on vanilla
keyboards. Are we to conclude that Tamil websites can only be created in
Chennai? Nobody else anywhere else can use Tamil? That probably wasn't the
intention, but that is how it comes across.

-- 
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Fool On The Hill
"The cameras were all around. We've got you taped; you're in the play.
Here's your I.D. (Ideal for identifying one and all.)
Invest your life in the memory bank; ours the interest and we thank you."
Jethro Tull: A Passion Play (1973)
On Mar 9, 2013 11:17 AM, "Tejaswini Niranjana"  wrote:

>
> http://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/technology/internet/soon-the-web-will-have-bharat-in-local-languages/article4485576.ece?ref=sliderNews
>
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> Senior Fellow - Centre for the Study of Culture and Society (CSCS)
> Visiting Professor - Tata Institute of Social Sciences (TISS)
> Visiting Faculty - Centre for Contemporary Studies, Indian Institute
> of Science (CCS-IISc)
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