Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Net Neutrality and Wikipedia

2015-04-21 Thread Arnav Sonara
Hey,

> We may not have enough time or consensus or precedence to launch India
specific official / community led campaign regarding this by April 24th.

Even if you did have enough time, I have some serious concern with
repercussions it could cause, especially with Wikipedia Zero.

> Though Wikipedia Zero was welcomed widely during its launch and
expansion, it has become "the elephant in the room" for any Wikipedian
talking about net neutrality.  I don't recollect any community discussion /
consensus over this program apart from the blog post here by WMF -
>
> http://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/08/01/

wikipedia-

zero-

and-net-

neutrality-

protecting-the-internet

/

>

Have a look at this also
http://reason.com/archives/2015/04/08/nothing-but-net

Regards,
Arnav.
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Net Neutrality and Wikipedia

2015-04-21 Thread Ravishankar
Karthik,

Thanks for starting this discussion.

We may not have enough time or consensus or precedence to launch India
specific official / community led campaign regarding this by April 24th.

But, net neutrality debates are happening all over the globe and it will be
good for the global Wikimedia community to take an official stand on this.
One can recollect how the stand  taken by Flipkart and ClearTrip shaped the
recent debate in India.

Though Wikipedia Zero was welcomed widely during its launch and expansion,
it has become "the elephant in the room" for any Wikipedian talking about
net neutrality.  I don't recollect any community discussion / consensus
over this program apart from the blog post here by WMF -

http://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/08/01/wikipedia-zero-and-net-neutrality-protecting-the-internet/

Presence of Wikipedia in Internet.org like programs also needs to be
explained.

A RFC in Meta discussing this as a global issue would be a good start .

Ravi

P.S.

This is my personal opinion written from my personal email id. Not to be
taken as official view of any community or organization that I am
affiliated with.
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Net Neutrality and Wikipedia

2015-04-21 Thread Karthik Nadar
Finally "Indian Express" says that even Wikipedia had violated "Net
Neutrality" in India 
:
http://indianexpress.com/article/technology/social/net-neutrality-debate-its-not-just-limited-to-airtel-zero/

Content from the article in regard to Wikipedia and Aircel is as below:


*Aircel and Wikipedia:* In 2013, Aircel had announced that it will offer
free access to Wikipedia on mobile phones. The partnership is currently
valid for 3 years.

Wikipedia might be an instant go to for many of us, but that still doesn’t
justify why it should be free of charge on a particular network, when
accessing other sites means incurring data charges for users.


On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 12:14 AM, Karthik Nadar 
wrote:

> Hi Arnav,
>
> Thanks for your inputs. I just shared my points and just wanted to know
> what all are thinking about the same.
>
> Would just like to defend my point as I have not explained it properly
> (again my own views): By grabbing eyeballs, its not only about to increase
> editors, its also about readership.
>
> Thanks again Arnav. Your views are valid as well :)
>
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