[Wikimediaindia-l] COVID-19 task force on Wikdiata need your helping hands!

2020-03-29 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Hello all,

For last couple of weeks, I am trying to update state and district wise
data of COVID-19 pandemic in India on Wikidata. I have tried to organize
the workflow here
.
Thanks to Mahir for creating all the visualisation queries

and Jinoy for working on the health bulletins. To check how important the
entire work is, you can check this map showing the spread of the disease at
the district level  or this line chart at the state
level,  for example, all built from Wikidata. This is
useful for epidemiological research, distribution of relief and health
materials, planning of volunteer relief teams and many other aspects. There
are already quite a few non-Wikimedia volunteer workforce working on this.

Now, the problem is, there are huge discrepancies in data provided by WHO,
different government health bulletins, media houses and crowdsourced
volunteer initiatives and I have been trying as best as I could to find the
most accurate data and update them as far as at the district level. Also,
the Wikidata interface is not suitable for day-to-day updating like this
one, which is another problem. Needless to say, this is extremely
exhausting to do it alone for the whole country.

So, I appeal to every experienced Wikidata contributors in this list to at
least take care of the data of the districts of your states, so that the
workload is distributed and we can deliver high quality accurate
epidemiological data as the disease spreads further in the country. If I
have to do it alone, I will then have no other choice but to leave some
states behind which will create unavoidable and unwanted data gaps.

If you have any questions or want to join us, please ping me, Mahir or
Jinoy  here.

We have a fairly active messenger chat group to coordinate with, where you
are more than welcome.

Regards,
Bodhisattwa
Wikidata volunteer
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Update on Project Tiger 2.0 community workshop

2020-03-29 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Hi Netha,

I have no opinion on next Project Tiger as I don't edit Wikipedia anymore.

For your project to translate short versions, that seems fine as they are
created by you or other medical professionals. Now, if someone incorporate
wrong or unreferenced information into that translation, that's his or her
responsibility medicolegally.

Regards,
Bodhisattwa


On Sun, 29 Mar 2020, 18:02 Netha Hussain,  wrote:

> Dear Bodhi,
>
> I see your point and it is indeed valid. What if we continue Project Tiger
> as it is, not focusing on articles related to healthcare? And what are your
> thoughts about medical professionals (such as myself) creating short
> versions of English Wikipedia articles which can then be used for
> translating to Indian languages? In that case, we can ensure that no
> misinformation creeps in, at least in the translated parts of the article.
> COVID-19 related articles give scientific information, so I don't think we
> miss the cultural nuances while translating them as opposed to starting
> articles from the scratch.
>
> Regards
> Netha
>
> On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 at 13:56, Bodhisattwa Mandal <
> bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Netha,
>>
>> I am writing here as a Wikimedia volunteer, not as a A2K advisor.
>>
>> For medical related articles, contests and other forms of mass editing
>> events might prove dangerous.
>>
>> We all know, that Indic language Wikipedias are not curated or reviewed
>> properly due to lack of manpower and other reasons. Unlike English
>> Wikipedia, Indic language medical articles are full of misinformations and
>> false claims. The articles, if not reviewed and corrected by medical
>> professionals, might prove detrimental to readers who, by following any
>> misinformation and false informatiom written in the article, may become ill
>> and may die, in extreme cases. That would lead to serious medicolegal issue
>> to the editor who have provided that kind of information and that
>> responsibility may come to the organizers of that event. For example, any
>> COVID-19 related misinformation will lead one to jail in West Bengal.
>>
>> For this reason, personally, I am strongly against this kind of
>> mass-editing of health related articles by non-experts.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Bodhisattwa
>> (From the point of view of  a Wikimedia volunteer who happens to be a
>> health professional)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 29 Mar 2020, 16:24 Netha Hussain,  wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Suswetha,
>>>
>>> We are going through hard times, and it looks as if this crisis will
>>> take months to subside. People are under lockdown and are seeking
>>> information over the internet more frequently than ever. A lot of fake news
>>> regarding the virus and the pandemic are circulating over the internet. At
>>> the same time, many of our community members are at home, and they probably
>>> have more time than usual to devote for volunteering. Is there any
>>> possibility that we can run the Project Tiger writing contest once again,
>>> ideally, starting next month? We could perhaps give more importance to
>>> articles related to COVID-19 during the contest, but we could also work on
>>> other topics of interest as well.
>>>
>>> Just an idea - I would like to know what the community and CIS think
>>> about this.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Netha
>>>
>>> On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 at 12:41, Suswetha Kolluru 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Dear all,


 Hope this email finds you well and safe. You are aware of the very
 unfortunate coronavirus outbreak globally and in India. Earlier we informed
 you that on-site/offline CIS-A2K events were postponed.[1] In this email,
 we will give you some more details about the Project Tiger 2.0 community
 workshop.

 You know Project Tiger edit-a-thon[2] has completed some time ago, and
 we were supposed to work on organizing a community skill development
 workshop. However, following WMF suggestion[3], recommendation by the
 central and state government in India, and after a detailed discussion with
 Project Tiger team, we want to inform that we can’t conduct Project Tiger
 workshop due to the current circumstances, and we will be exploring a new
 date for the workshop once life gets back to normal in India.

 If you have questions, comments, or suggestions, please write to
 tito+pt2...@cis-india.org or reply to the email.

 Thanks for understanding and please stay safe.

 Footnotes:

 1.
 https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2020-March/014533.html

 2.
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Growing_Local_Language_Content_on_Wikipedia_(Project_Tiger_2.0)/Writing_Contest

 3. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Resources/COVID-19_Notice


 Best,

 Team Project Tiger





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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Update on Project Tiger 2.0 community workshop

2020-03-29 Thread Netha Hussain
Dear Bodhi,

I see your point and it is indeed valid. What if we continue Project Tiger
as it is, not focusing on articles related to healthcare? And what are your
thoughts about medical professionals (such as myself) creating short
versions of English Wikipedia articles which can then be used for
translating to Indian languages? In that case, we can ensure that no
misinformation creeps in, at least in the translated parts of the article.
COVID-19 related articles give scientific information, so I don't think we
miss the cultural nuances while translating them as opposed to starting
articles from the scratch.

Regards
Netha

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 at 13:56, Bodhisattwa Mandal <
bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Netha,
>
> I am writing here as a Wikimedia volunteer, not as a A2K advisor.
>
> For medical related articles, contests and other forms of mass editing
> events might prove dangerous.
>
> We all know, that Indic language Wikipedias are not curated or reviewed
> properly due to lack of manpower and other reasons. Unlike English
> Wikipedia, Indic language medical articles are full of misinformations and
> false claims. The articles, if not reviewed and corrected by medical
> professionals, might prove detrimental to readers who, by following any
> misinformation and false informatiom written in the article, may become ill
> and may die, in extreme cases. That would lead to serious medicolegal issue
> to the editor who have provided that kind of information and that
> responsibility may come to the organizers of that event. For example, any
> COVID-19 related misinformation will lead one to jail in West Bengal.
>
> For this reason, personally, I am strongly against this kind of
> mass-editing of health related articles by non-experts.
>
> Regards,
> Bodhisattwa
> (From the point of view of  a Wikimedia volunteer who happens to be a
> health professional)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, 29 Mar 2020, 16:24 Netha Hussain,  wrote:
>
>> Dear Suswetha,
>>
>> We are going through hard times, and it looks as if this crisis will take
>> months to subside. People are under lockdown and are seeking information
>> over the internet more frequently than ever. A lot of fake news regarding
>> the virus and the pandemic are circulating over the internet. At the same
>> time, many of our community members are at home, and they probably have
>> more time than usual to devote for volunteering. Is there any possibility
>> that we can run the Project Tiger writing contest once again, ideally,
>> starting next month? We could perhaps give more importance to articles
>> related to COVID-19 during the contest, but we could also work on other
>> topics of interest as well.
>>
>> Just an idea - I would like to know what the community and CIS think
>> about this.
>>
>> Regards
>> Netha
>>
>> On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 at 12:41, Suswetha Kolluru 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>>
>>> Hope this email finds you well and safe. You are aware of the very
>>> unfortunate coronavirus outbreak globally and in India. Earlier we informed
>>> you that on-site/offline CIS-A2K events were postponed.[1] In this email,
>>> we will give you some more details about the Project Tiger 2.0 community
>>> workshop.
>>>
>>> You know Project Tiger edit-a-thon[2] has completed some time ago, and
>>> we were supposed to work on organizing a community skill development
>>> workshop. However, following WMF suggestion[3], recommendation by the
>>> central and state government in India, and after a detailed discussion with
>>> Project Tiger team, we want to inform that we can’t conduct Project Tiger
>>> workshop due to the current circumstances, and we will be exploring a new
>>> date for the workshop once life gets back to normal in India.
>>>
>>> If you have questions, comments, or suggestions, please write to
>>> tito+pt2...@cis-india.org or reply to the email.
>>>
>>> Thanks for understanding and please stay safe.
>>>
>>> Footnotes:
>>>
>>> 1.
>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2020-March/014533.html
>>>
>>> 2.
>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Growing_Local_Language_Content_on_Wikipedia_(Project_Tiger_2.0)/Writing_Contest
>>>
>>> 3. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Resources/COVID-19_Notice
>>>
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Team Project Tiger
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
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>> Institute of Neuroscience and Physiology
>> University of Gothenburg, Sweden
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Update on Project Tiger 2.0 community workshop

2020-03-29 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Hi Netha,

I am writing here as a Wikimedia volunteer, not as a A2K advisor.

For medical related articles, contests and other forms of mass editing
events might prove dangerous.

We all know, that Indic language Wikipedias are not curated or reviewed
properly due to lack of manpower and other reasons. Unlike English
Wikipedia, Indic language medical articles are full of misinformations and
false claims. The articles, if not reviewed and corrected by medical
professionals, might prove detrimental to readers who, by following any
misinformation and false informatiom written in the article, may become ill
and may die, in extreme cases. That would lead to serious medicolegal issue
to the editor who have provided that kind of information and that
responsibility may come to the organizers of that event. For example, any
COVID-19 related misinformation will lead one to jail in West Bengal.

For this reason, personally, I am strongly against this kind of
mass-editing of health related articles by non-experts.

Regards,
Bodhisattwa
(From the point of view of  a Wikimedia volunteer who happens to be a
health professional)







On Sun, 29 Mar 2020, 16:24 Netha Hussain,  wrote:

> Dear Suswetha,
>
> We are going through hard times, and it looks as if this crisis will take
> months to subside. People are under lockdown and are seeking information
> over the internet more frequently than ever. A lot of fake news regarding
> the virus and the pandemic are circulating over the internet. At the same
> time, many of our community members are at home, and they probably have
> more time than usual to devote for volunteering. Is there any possibility
> that we can run the Project Tiger writing contest once again, ideally,
> starting next month? We could perhaps give more importance to articles
> related to COVID-19 during the contest, but we could also work on other
> topics of interest as well.
>
> Just an idea - I would like to know what the community and CIS think about
> this.
>
> Regards
> Netha
>
> On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 at 12:41, Suswetha Kolluru 
> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>>
>> Hope this email finds you well and safe. You are aware of the very
>> unfortunate coronavirus outbreak globally and in India. Earlier we informed
>> you that on-site/offline CIS-A2K events were postponed.[1] In this email,
>> we will give you some more details about the Project Tiger 2.0 community
>> workshop.
>>
>> You know Project Tiger edit-a-thon[2] has completed some time ago, and we
>> were supposed to work on organizing a community skill development workshop.
>> However, following WMF suggestion[3], recommendation by the central and
>> state government in India, and after a detailed discussion with Project
>> Tiger team, we want to inform that we can’t conduct Project Tiger workshop
>> due to the current circumstances, and we will be exploring a new date for
>> the workshop once life gets back to normal in India.
>>
>> If you have questions, comments, or suggestions, please write to
>> tito+pt2...@cis-india.org or reply to the email.
>>
>> Thanks for understanding and please stay safe.
>>
>> Footnotes:
>>
>> 1.
>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2020-March/014533.html
>>
>> 2.
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Growing_Local_Language_Content_on_Wikipedia_(Project_Tiger_2.0)/Writing_Contest
>>
>> 3. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Resources/COVID-19_Notice
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Team Project Tiger
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>
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> Institute of Neuroscience and Physiology
> University of Gothenburg, Sweden
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Update on Project Tiger 2.0 community workshop

2020-03-29 Thread Netha Hussain
Dear Suswetha,

We are going through hard times, and it looks as if this crisis will take
months to subside. People are under lockdown and are seeking information
over the internet more frequently than ever. A lot of fake news regarding
the virus and the pandemic are circulating over the internet. At the same
time, many of our community members are at home, and they probably have
more time than usual to devote for volunteering. Is there any possibility
that we can run the Project Tiger writing contest once again, ideally,
starting next month? We could perhaps give more importance to articles
related to COVID-19 during the contest, but we could also work on other
topics of interest as well.

Just an idea - I would like to know what the community and CIS think about
this.

Regards
Netha

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 at 12:41, Suswetha Kolluru 
wrote:

> Dear all,
>
>
> Hope this email finds you well and safe. You are aware of the very
> unfortunate coronavirus outbreak globally and in India. Earlier we informed
> you that on-site/offline CIS-A2K events were postponed.[1] In this email,
> we will give you some more details about the Project Tiger 2.0 community
> workshop.
>
> You know Project Tiger edit-a-thon[2] has completed some time ago, and we
> were supposed to work on organizing a community skill development workshop.
> However, following WMF suggestion[3], recommendation by the central and
> state government in India, and after a detailed discussion with Project
> Tiger team, we want to inform that we can’t conduct Project Tiger workshop
> due to the current circumstances, and we will be exploring a new date for
> the workshop once life gets back to normal in India.
>
> If you have questions, comments, or suggestions, please write to
> tito+pt2...@cis-india.org or reply to the email.
>
> Thanks for understanding and please stay safe.
>
> Footnotes:
>
> 1.
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2020-March/014533.html
>
> 2.
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Growing_Local_Language_Content_on_Wikipedia_(Project_Tiger_2.0)/Writing_Contest
>
> 3. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Resources/COVID-19_Notice
>
>
> Best,
>
> Team Project Tiger
>
>
>
>
>
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[Wikimediaindia-l] Update on Project Tiger 2.0 community workshop

2020-03-29 Thread Suswetha Kolluru
Dear all,


Hope this email finds you well and safe. You are aware of the very
unfortunate coronavirus outbreak globally and in India. Earlier we informed
you that on-site/offline CIS-A2K events were postponed.[1] In this email,
we will give you some more details about the Project Tiger 2.0 community
workshop.

You know Project Tiger edit-a-thon[2] has completed some time ago, and we
were supposed to work on organizing a community skill development workshop.
However, following WMF suggestion[3], recommendation by the central and
state government in India, and after a detailed discussion with Project
Tiger team, we want to inform that we can’t conduct Project Tiger workshop
due to the current circumstances, and we will be exploring a new date for
the workshop once life gets back to normal in India.

If you have questions, comments, or suggestions, please write to
tito+pt2...@cis-india.org or reply to the email.

Thanks for understanding and please stay safe.

Footnotes:

1.
https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2020-March/014533.html

2.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Growing_Local_Language_Content_on_Wikipedia_(Project_Tiger_2.0)/Writing_Contest

3. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Resources/COVID-19_Notice


Best,

Team Project Tiger
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