Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-IN-PUN] [Wikimedia-in-mum] Community-Chapter Relations

2011-06-14 Thread Moksh Juneja
Dear All,

Since the past behind, lets all of us move forward with the single objective
in mind to roll out the Mumbai-Pune hosted WikiConference in November 2011.
Lets not fret over the lost time, lets make the best of all the resources
that we can pool in together.

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On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 10:45, wheredevelsd...@hotmail.com wrote:

  Open Response to Members and office bearers of the Executive Committee,
 Wikimedia Chapter (India),

 Thank you for your letter of unconditional support for the Mumbai-Pune
 hosted WikiConference in November 2011. We highly appreciate and are humbled
 by this support from the chapter as well as vocal public support from all
 communities across India for for us hosting this event.

 We now look forward to a new dawn by putting the past behind us and hosting
 a benchmark conference. We request communities across the country to
 continue supporting us the way they have and come forward with proposals for
 the event program/theme etc.

 We welcome to Gautam K John and Arun Ramanathan onto our Event Organising
 Committee.

 On behalf of the Mumbai and Pune Community,

 Thanks and Regards,
 User:AroundTheGlobe

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 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 09:46:31 +0530
 From: arjunar...@googlemail.com
 To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-IN-PUN] [Wikimedia-in-mum]
 Community-Chapter Relations


 Hi Wikimedians

 We wholeheartedly supported the Mumbai-Pune bid for organising the
 conference. It has received widespread community support from Wikipedians
 across the country on the mailing list. We also take note of the fact that
 there is no visible active intent to make a bid to host the event from other
 cities.
 The previous note from Executive Committee (EC) clearly indicates the
 intent and commitment to run an annual event, year on year, with the support
 of other stakeholders in the movement. To that end we request that the
 organising team of this year's event keep this an important objective.
 EC had previously made a proposal for such an event many in early 2011 but
 it was then deferred to September due to other procedural hurdles in getting
 all aspects of a formal entity up and running - A bank account being a
 prerequisite to execute the plan.
 EC regrets the communication gaps and discomfort caused in some quarters
 due to misunderstandings of intent which our earlier email clearly and
 directly addresses. The Wikimedia movement is community driven and we
 reiterate that involving the community is and will be a key priority for
 your Chapter and Executive Committee.
 We request everyone's support for the Mumbai-Pune efforts to organise the
 2011 WikiConference.
 Please consider this note a full and complete support of the India Chapter
 for the event. We thank the Mumbai and Pune Wikimedians again for the
 passion and leadership in working towards organising the first edition of
 this event.
 We will engage and work with the Mumbai team and other Wikipedians on the
 specific aspects of the frame work. As indicated in the earlier email, it
 was meant to be a draft seeking comments from other stakeholders.
 There were a few other aspects that were highlighted to which we would like
 to provide the following:
 *Feedback #1: Treat us like equals and stakeholders. Amongst us, chapter
 will then be first among equals.*
 The Chapter is only a part of the Community and should be reflective of it.
 If the impression was otherwise, we apologise

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-IN-PUN] [Wikimedia-in-mum] Community-Chapter Relations

2011-06-13 Thread Ashwin Baindur
Dear Arjuna,

It is so good to get your whole-hearted support and clarifications :) . We
support the chapter in every way and are glad that the chapter is fully
supporting the community. The clarifications therein have put to rest the
concerns of the community. These, imho, have arisen from a lack of
communication and we request that such a situation should not rise again and
frank and fair communication be resorted to by all parties concerned.

We look forward to your mature guidance to the OC and active and useful
participation from Gautam  Arun in the committee. With the chapter's
support, I'm sure the event will be a great success. Further, with the full
support of the chapter, the community's accomplishments will be such that
national chapter India can raise their heads high in the annual chapter
meetup next year and in the years to come.

Let's go forth and organise :-) !

Warm regards,

Ashwin Baindur
--


On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Arjuna Rao Chavala 
arjunar...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi Wikimedians

 We wholeheartedly supported the Mumbai-Pune bid for organising the
 conference. It has received widespread community support from Wikipedians
 across the country on the mailing list. We also take note of the fact that
 there is no visible active intent to make a bid to host the event from other
 cities.

 The previous note from Executive Committee (EC) clearly indicates the
 intent and commitment to run an annual event, year on year, with the support
 of other stakeholders in the movement. To that end we request that the
 organising team of this year's event keep this an important objective.

 EC had previously made a proposal for such an event many in early 2011 but
 it was then deferred to September due to other procedural hurdles in getting
 all aspects of a formal entity up and running - A bank account being a
 prerequisite to execute the plan.

 EC regrets the communication gaps and discomfort caused in some quarters
 due to misunderstandings of intent which our earlier email clearly and
 directly addresses. The Wikimedia movement is community driven and we
 reiterate that involving the community is and will be a key priority for
 your Chapter and Executive Committee.

 We request everyone's support for the Mumbai-Pune efforts to organise the
 2011 WikiConference.

 Please consider this note a full and complete support of the India Chapter
 for the event. We thank the Mumbai and Pune Wikimedians again for the
 passion and leadership in working towards organising the first edition of
 this event.

 We will engage and work with the Mumbai team and other Wikipedians on the
 specific aspects of the frame work. As indicated in the earlier email, it
 was meant to be a draft seeking comments from other stakeholders.

 There were a few other aspects that were highlighted to which we would like
 to provide the following:

 *Feedback #1: Treat us like equals and stakeholders. Amongst us, chapter
 will then be first among equals.*

 The Chapter is only a part of the Community and should be reflective of it.
 If the impression was otherwise, we apologise and reiterate our commitment
 to an equitable relationship with the Community. That said, please do
 understand that your Chapter has very clearly said that we will organise an
 event even in instances where there are no city bids - this is a fairly
 large undertaking for the Chapter and the Executive Committee as well.

 *Feedback #2: The second request is always ask our opinion before issuing
 policy, especially for a thing like WikiConference which has not been
 conducted before.*

 The framework was intended for discussion and for feedback - it isn't final
 and will not be final till there has been discussion and feedback on it. If
 the language indicated otherwise, we sincerely regret it.

 *Feedback #3: Lastly, this present framework will not do. We need a
 framework which gives autonomy to the Organising Committee to successfully
 pull off an event of this scale and nature. While organising this
 Wikiconference, the community is willing to develop a sensible, practical
 framework which can be debated and finalised after the event is over. In
 this manner best practices and lessons learnt will be incorporated.*

 We understand this. The idea behind the framework is to give us a road-map
 of how to prepare, execute and wrap up an event of this magnitude - given
 that this year will be the first, we are open to working together on such a
 framework and to better it as it goes along with the host communities.
 However, we must all agree that a framework is important to ensure that the
 annual event is sustainable and successful. The exact nature of the
 framework is something we can jointly define and we must all agree that at
 the end of the event, that we must all jointly draft this framework that can
 be reused for future events and years as a priority.

 Gautam K John and Arun Ramarathnam 

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-IN-PUN] [Wikimedia-in-mum] Community-Chapter Relations

2011-06-12 Thread Arjuna Rao Chavala
Hi Wikimedians

We wholeheartedly supported the Mumbai-Pune bid for organising the
conference. It has received widespread community support from Wikipedians
across the country on the mailing list. We also take note of the fact that
there is no visible active intent to make a bid to host the event from other
cities.

The previous note from Executive Committee (EC) clearly indicates the intent
and commitment to run an annual event, year on year, with the support of
other stakeholders in the movement. To that end we request that the
organising team of this year's event keep this an important objective.

EC had previously made a proposal for such an event many in early 2011 but
it was then deferred to September due to other procedural hurdles in getting
all aspects of a formal entity up and running - A bank account being a
prerequisite to execute the plan.

EC regrets the communication gaps and discomfort caused in some quarters due
to misunderstandings of intent which our earlier email clearly and directly
addresses. The Wikimedia movement is community driven and we reiterate that
involving the community is and will be a key priority for your Chapter and
Executive Committee.

We request everyone's support for the Mumbai-Pune efforts to organise the
2011 WikiConference.

Please consider this note a full and complete support of the India Chapter
for the event. We thank the Mumbai and Pune Wikimedians again for the
passion and leadership in working towards organising the first edition of
this event.

We will engage and work with the Mumbai team and other Wikipedians on the
specific aspects of the frame work. As indicated in the earlier email, it
was meant to be a draft seeking comments from other stakeholders.

There were a few other aspects that were highlighted to which we would like
to provide the following:

*Feedback #1: Treat us like equals and stakeholders. Amongst us, chapter
will then be first among equals.*

The Chapter is only a part of the Community and should be reflective of it.
If the impression was otherwise, we apologise and reiterate our commitment
to an equitable relationship with the Community. That said, please do
understand that your Chapter has very clearly said that we will organise an
event even in instances where there are no city bids - this is a fairly
large undertaking for the Chapter and the Executive Committee as well.

*Feedback #2: The second request is always ask our opinion before issuing
policy, especially for a thing like WikiConference which has not been
conducted before.*

The framework was intended for discussion and for feedback - it isn't final
and will not be final till there has been discussion and feedback on it. If
the language indicated otherwise, we sincerely regret it.

*Feedback #3: Lastly, this present framework will not do. We need a
framework which gives autonomy to the Organising Committee to successfully
pull off an event of this scale and nature. While organising this
Wikiconference, the community is willing to develop a sensible, practical
framework which can be debated and finalised after the event is over. In
this manner best practices and lessons learnt will be incorporated.*

We understand this. The idea behind the framework is to give us a road-map
of how to prepare, execute and wrap up an event of this magnitude - given
that this year will be the first, we are open to working together on such a
framework and to better it as it goes along with the host communities.
However, we must all agree that a framework is important to ensure that the
annual event is sustainable and successful. The exact nature of the
framework is something we can jointly define and we must all agree that at
the end of the event, that we must all jointly draft this framework that can
be reused for future events and years as a priority.

Gautam K John and Arun Ramarathnam will represent the Chapter in the
organizing committee for the Conference.


Sincerely,

Arjuna Rao Chavala
President, Wikimedia Chapter
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