Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimediaindia-l Digest, Vol 1194, Issue 1

[Manoj Khurana]

By accepting defeat we don't go anywhere.
WCI Chandigarh was a great affair, and I'm sure that the organisers are a
wiser lot now.

But, if that experience tells us that we are incapable, then this is our
fault of looking at it. We need to learn and grow rather than get
discouraged. Let's count positives and get motivated. Let's look at
negatives and learn.

Accepting defeat must never be an option.

My view:
I was there for half a day only, but that half day has changed me a lot.
>From my limited knowledge of half day presence and mails etc., I realise
that 100% volunteer based arrangement is difficult. I agree with this
observation shared earlier in this mail thread.

So, what we need is a volunteer management team, but further work
outsourced to professionals.

For example- imagine if preparing food was also done by wikipedians, what
do you imagine would have been the scene? This activity was outsourced to
professionals and supervised by wikipedians, so this was excellent. We
should extend this working style to other items also like stay
arrangements, logistics etc.

I strongly believe if we have the will power, a positive attitude, wci2016
must have given the organisers enough experience and learnings that they
can pull another grand show very successfully.

I suggest we start with WCI 2017, 18 and 19. After arranging 4 events, I
bet that arranging Wikimania in 2020 will be a child's play.

Stay positive, Cheers!!!

Regards,
Manoj.

On Nov 16, 2016 12:23 AM, "Jayanta Nath"  wrote:

> Thank you for your realization. Even we are not prepare for any local
> conference.
>
> On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 12:07 PM, Manoj Khurana 
> wrote:
>
>> Right.
>> But we have plenty of editors only who might not prove to be good event
>> managees. In such a case what is the scope for outsourcing this activity
>> and hiring professional event managers?
>> Regards,
>> Manoj
>>
>> On Nov 15, 2016 11:38 AM, "Sudhanwa Jogalekar" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Usually, wikipedians start off with great enthusiasm but then get
>>> disoriented and off target quickly. Volunteers could be great editors but
>>> creating a conference requires altogether different skills. Doing some
>>> activitiy online and running a conference or even an organisation is a
>>> completely different ball game. Once we understand this fact, we will be
>>> ready to conduct any kind of conferences-online or realworld !!
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> -Sudhanwa
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 8:03 PM,  wrote:
>>>
 Hi,

 I also thought that we should organize Wikimania in India but after
 organizing WCI i see that Indian community is not yet ready to even
 organize an annual WCI. It took one year to organize WCI 2016 and the work
 has not finished yet 3 months after the conference. It will take another 2
 months to finish everything as far as i see.

 So, No Wikimania until we are prepared enough to organize an annual
 conference.

 Regards
 Satdeep Gill



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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimediaindia-l Digest, Vol 1194, Issue 1

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

Hi,

Usually, wikipedians start off with great enthusiasm but then get
disoriented and off target quickly. Volunteers could be great editors but
creating a conference requires altogether different skills. Doing some
activitiy online and running a conference or even an organisation is a
completely different ball game. Once we understand this fact, we will be
ready to conduct any kind of conferences-online or realworld !!

Regards
-Sudhanwa


On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 8:03 PM,  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I also thought that we should organize Wikimania in India but after
> organizing WCI i see that Indian community is not yet ready to even
> organize an annual WCI. It took one year to organize WCI 2016 and the work
> has not finished yet 3 months after the conference. It will take another 2
> months to finish everything as far as i see.
>
> So, No Wikimania until we are prepared enough to organize an annual
> conference.
>
> Regards
> Satdeep Gill
>
>
>
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>> > Since last 6 years we were planning to organise Wikimania in India. But we
>> > dropped it because of raw experience to organise such a big conference.
>> >
>> > But in the last 6 years, we have organised 3 conferences i.e.  in 2011 at
>> > Mumbai,  2015 at Kolkata &  2016 at Mohali. If we all communities and
>> > chapters collaborate then we can plan to organise an International
>> > conference at India in 2018/2019.
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>> We organized the 2015 BN10 Conference in Kolkata and as far as I know,
>> Bengali community, including myself, is not at all interested in organizing
>> another conference, although I dont speak on behalf of all. Personally
>> speaking, to remain active online is more fruitful than organizing a
>> Wikimania.
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimediaindia-l Digest, Vol 1194, Issue 1

[satdeepgill]

Hi,


I also thought that we should organize Wikimania in India but after organizing 
WCI i see that Indian community is not yet ready to even organize an annual 
WCI. It took one year to organize WCI 2016 and the work has not finished yet 3 
months after the conference. It will take another 2 months to finish everything 
as far as i see. 


So, No Wikimania until we are prepared enough to organize an annual conference. 


Regards

Satdeep Gill






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> Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2016 23:17:56 +0530
> From: Srikant Kedia 
> To: Wikimedia Chapter Membership ,  Wikimedia
> India Community list 
> Cc: Ellie Young 
> Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] Should we organise Wikimania 2018/2019 in
> India?
> Message-ID:
>  gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
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> Hello,
>
> Since last 6 years we were planning to organise Wikimania in India. But we
> dropped it because of raw experience to organise such a big conference.
>
> But in the last 6 years, we have organised 3 conferences i.e.  in 2011 at
> Mumbai,  2015 at Kolkata &  2016 at Mohali. If we all communities and
> chapters collaborate then we can plan to organise an International
> conference at India in 2018/2019.
>
> Waiting for your opinion and suggestions.
>
> Regards
> Shreekant Kedia
> Odisha1
> -- next part --
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Hi,

We organized the 2015 BN10 Conference in Kolkata and as far as I know,
Bengali community, including myself, is not at all interested in organizing
another conference, although I dont speak on behalf of all. Personally
speaking, to remain active online is more fruitful than organizing a
Wikimania.

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