[Wikimediauk-l] Schools wikipedia memory sticks
We have the schools wikipedia on a 4Gb memory stick now available if anyone who has previously expressed legit interest would like a copy. Please email me your postal address WITHOUT the string "wiki" anywhere in the message title (or I may not see it for a while) DVDs will be another few weeks: we are giving requests from Africa priority and are on a reburn. If anyone has ideas for interested journalists who might like a memory stick please let me know as above. Thanks Andrew/ BozMo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Process for admitting members
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 11:05 AM, Gordon Joly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So what did they these members do? Just pay their fees? > > Gordo > > > -- > "Think Feynman"/ > http://pobox.com/~gordo/ > [EMAIL PROTECTED]/// > > ___ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > It was a real mix - some members saw the membership fee as a kind of donation and didn't ask for anything much in return. We sent out useful information, as well as information on what we were doing, and some members joined mostly for that. We also gave advice (not something the chapter will be doing), and a lot of members joined for that - but they didn't usually need ongoing advice, so it was important that they began having some other involvement. Only a minority of members - probably a small minority - joined with the intention of getting involved in the governance of the organisation, but it was good that the others had the opportunity. Plenty of members, over time, decided to get involved with proposing activities or policies, standing for the board, and attending AGMs. If people join us as friends, that introduces an extra hurdle in getting them involved in the chapter in this way. Best Wishes Mickey ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Process for admitting members
> I am sure there is some guesswork here. > > And yes, I agree, WMUK must be democratic. I am trying to suggest > that making every "supporting member" become a guarantor member (or > become nothing) might not be the best way forward. No-one has disagreed with that. What you're suggesting is *forcing* certain people not to become guarantor members. That is the part that is undemocratic. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Process for admitting members
At 14:45 + 3/12/08, Mickey Conn wrote: >I've been involved in a company with around 1,000 members and it found >no particular difficulties with managing them. None of them were very >interested in an alternative "friends" affiliation; quite a few took >no interest in the AGM, but nobody ever suggested that the vanishingly >small responsibilities of being a guarantor member had put them off >joining (in part because the meaning of this was clearly explained on >the membership form, as I believe it is on ours). > >Best Wishes >Mickey > OK, I take this point! So what did they these members do? Just pay their fees? Gordo -- "Think Feynman"/ http://pobox.com/~gordo/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]/// ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Process for admitting members
At 13:35 + 3/12/08, Thomas Dalton wrote: [...] > I don't see how you can disenfranchise 90% of the >membership just for convenience, it goes completely against the >democratic ideals of the chapter. > >> I believe most people would want to be a "friend" rather than a >> "member", and I mean "member" in the technical sense of "guarantor >> member". > >At this point, you're just guessing. The lists of people interested in >being guarantor and supporting members were pretty similar in length. > [...] I am sure there is some guesswork here. And yes, I agree, WMUK must be democratic. I am trying to suggest that making every "supporting member" become a guarantor member (or become nothing) might not be the best way forward. Regards, Gordo -- "Think Feynman"/ http://pobox.com/~gordo/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]/// ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l
