Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Digitisation equipment

[geni]

2009/8/27 Andrew Turvey :
> - "Thomas Dalton"  wrote:
>>
>> 2009/8/26 Andrew Turvey :
>> > We had a discussion at a recent Wikimedia UK board meeting about
>> > potentially
>> > buying some digitisation equipment which could be used to generate
>> > content
>> > for the Wikimedia projects. This recent email to the EN-WP list sparked
>> > my
>> > interest.
>>
>> What do we want to digitise? I think that needs to be worked out
>> before we can determine what kind of equipment we need.
>
> The idea was books but it very much depends on how much it costs and what it
> can be used for.

Unlikely to be able to do much existing book digitalisation projects
cannot. Better targets are things that no one else appears to be
looking to scan or where higher res scans are needed. for example this
collection:

http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/server/show/nav.20088



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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] More UK media: Radio 2 5:30, Sky News 7:15

[Bod Notbod]

On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 9:31 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:

>> Is there an online copy anywhere? Apparently you couldn't actually
>> watch it live unless you were a Sky subscriber, which we aren't any
>> more ...
>
> No idea. I watched it on Freeview - Sky News is a free channel.

Indeed, and the channel can be viewed live on this website (though it
has no catch up facility despite the site's name, so you won't be able
to dig out the Wikipedia piece):

http://www.tvcatchup.com/

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Digitisation equipment

[Thomas Dalton]

2009/8/27 Andrew Turvey :
> The idea was books but it very much depends on how much it costs and what it
> can be used for.

What kind of books?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Digitisation equipment

[Andrew Turvey]

- "Thomas Dalton"  wrote: 
> 
> 2009/8/26 Andrew Turvey : 
> > We had a discussion at a recent Wikimedia UK board meeting about 
> > potentially 
> > buying some digitisation equipment which could be used to generate content 
> > for the Wikimedia projects. This recent email to the EN-WP list sparked my 
> > interest. 
> 
> What do we want to digitise? I think that needs to be worked out 
> before we can determine what kind of equipment we need. 

The idea was books but it very much depends on how much it costs and what it 
can be used for. 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Digitisation equipment

[Thomas Dalton]

2009/8/26 Andrew Turvey :
> We had a discussion at a recent Wikimedia UK board meeting about potentially
> buying some digitisation equipment which could be used to generate content
> for the Wikimedia projects. This recent email to the EN-WP list sparked my
> interest.

What do we want to digitise? I think that needs to be worked out
before we can determine what kind of equipment we need.

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[Wikimediauk-l] Digitisation equipment

[Andrew Turvey]

We had a discussion at a recent Wikimedia UK board meeting about potentially 
buying some digitisation equipment which could be used to generate content for 
the Wikimedia projects. This recent email to the EN-WP list sparked my 
interest. 

Does anyone have any experience with equipment like this, and could you 
recommend anything? Any idea what the price range and quality typically is? 

Also, is anyone else in the Wikimedia community currently doing this? 

Thanks, 

 Forwarded Message - 
From: "Steve Bennett"  
To: "English Wikipedia"  
Sent: Sunday, 23 August, 2009 10:55:32 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, 
Portugal 
Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia reaches 3 millionth article 

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:15 PM, David Gerard wrote: 
> I believe they have machines to turn pages, and something to figure 
> out the distorted photo of the book and render it how it would look as 
> a flat page. 

Yeah, there are videos of these machines. The book sits open, the 
scanner comes down and scans both open pages at once. As it goes up 
again, it sucks on one page, causing it to flip over. Then repeat. 

Oh, look, here you go: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlOQuuLYavY 

And while we're at it: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_scanning 

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] More UK media: Radio 2 5:30, Sky News 7:15

[Andrew Gray]

2009/8/26 David Gerard :

> * Living bios are special and we've been harsh on them for a coupla years
> * Abusive rubbish and slander is *wrong* and that's not what we're here for
> * out of 300k living bios, we have ~1000 locked from editing (I don't
> bother explaining full vs semi-protection)

400,000. We've been going up in this as in every other category! :-)

(One in fifteen thousand people in the world has a Wikipedia article. Eeep.)

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] More UK media: Radio 2 5:30, Sky News 7:15

[Thomas Dalton]

2009/8/26 David Gerard :
> 2009/8/26 Thomas Dalton :
>> 2009/8/26 David Gerard :
>
>>> I'm on BBC Radio 2 Chris Evans for a three-minute segment around
>>> 5:30ish (plus or minus who knows what) and Sky News around 7:15pm.
>>> (Black shirt, no tie ;-) )
>
>> Just watched you on Sky, very good! You spent the whole time
>> emphasising how this is better than protection, which is what we need
>> to do. Well done! :-)
>
>
> Is there an online copy anywhere? Apparently you couldn't actually
> watch it live unless you were a Sky subscriber, which we aren't any
> more ...

No idea. I watched it on Freeview - Sky News is a free channel.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Daily Mail on Flagged Revisions

[David Gerard]

2009/8/26 Andrew Turvey :

> You're absolutely right - posting snips is ok, whole articles isn't. I
> apologise and wont do it again!
> Just out of interest, can we delete posts from the archive?


Not easily. It basically requires a dev to go in and do it. They
regard this as a substantial PITA ... Listadmins don't have the
ability to delete posts from the archive.


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] More UK media: Radio 2 5:30, Sky News 7:15

[David Gerard]

2009/8/26 Thomas Dalton :
> 2009/8/26 David Gerard :

>> I'm on BBC Radio 2 Chris Evans for a three-minute segment around
>> 5:30ish (plus or minus who knows what) and Sky News around 7:15pm.
>> (Black shirt, no tie ;-) )

> Just watched you on Sky, very good! You spent the whole time
> emphasising how this is better than protection, which is what we need
> to do. Well done! :-)


Is there an online copy anywhere? Apparently you couldn't actually
watch it live unless you were a Sky subscriber, which we aren't any
more ...

(Our telly viewing is basically CBeebies on a laptop for the toddler.
Worth every penny of the licence fee.)

I've got the rap down pretty well now:

* Living bios are special and we've been harsh on them for a coupla years
* Abusive rubbish and slander is *wrong* and that's not what we're here for
* out of 300k living bios, we have ~1000 locked from editing (I don't
bother explaining full vs semi-protection)
* those 1000 are locked to any editing
* with flagged revisions, we can have the good copy up for the casual
viewer but can still edit the live copy
* we're approaching it v carefully, because that instant live thing is
a real buzz and motivation - very short delay to live is important
* German Wikipedia's had this for a year on *all* articles and it's
still alive and well and dynamic


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] More UK media: Radio 2 5:30, Sky News 7:15

[Thomas Dalton]

2009/8/26 David Gerard :
> I'm on BBC Radio 2 Chris Evans for a three-minute segment around
> 5:30ish (plus or minus who knows what) and Sky News around 7:15pm.
> (Black shirt, no tie ;-) )

Just watched you on Sky, very good! You spent the whole time
emphasising how this is better than protection, which is what we need
to do. Well done! :-)

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Daily Mail on Flagged Revisions

[Thomas Dalton]

2009/8/26 Paul Williams :
> I was merely stating that your logic is flawed. We aren't claiming any
> ownership of posts to this list, or content ownership. It's just being
> reposted as a convienience.

Copyright isn't about claiming ownership, it is about copying, hence
the name. If you copy someone you don't own the copyright to, have
permission to copy, or falls under one of the exceptions to copyright
law, you are committing copyright violation. Posting a link is not
copying anything (other than the URL, which isn't copyrightable due to
being insubstantial).

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] More UK media: Radio 2 5:30, Sky News 7:15

[Isabell Long]

2009/8/26 Isabell Long :
> 2009/8/26 David Gerard :
>> 2009/8/26 Michael Peel :
>>
>>> Just to explain: David's going to be on BBC radio 2, rather than me
>>> (as per my previous email), as he's based in London and hence can get
>>> to the BBC studio. The press like to geographically discriminate. ;-)
>>
>>
>> Radio also REALLY HATES mobile phones ;-) Landlines are tolerable,
>> Skype is pretty good *if* they're set up for it, studio is ideal.
>
> I hate listening to people talking through phones on the radio as
> well, it's always really unclear!  I'll try to listen to Sky News if
> not Radio 2 tonight.

My timing was a bit wrong there, Radio 2 has already been and gone!  I
didn't realise what the time was.  I'll try to watch Sky News still
though.  :)



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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] More UK media: Radio 2 5:30, Sky News 7:15

[Isabell Long]

2009/8/26 David Gerard :
> 2009/8/26 Michael Peel :
>
>> Just to explain: David's going to be on BBC radio 2, rather than me
>> (as per my previous email), as he's based in London and hence can get
>> to the BBC studio. The press like to geographically discriminate. ;-)
>
>
> Radio also REALLY HATES mobile phones ;-) Landlines are tolerable,
> Skype is pretty good *if* they're set up for it, studio is ideal.

I hate listening to people talking through phones on the radio as
well, it's always really unclear!  I'll try to listen to Sky News if
not Radio 2 tonight, will be interesting - I should think you're
primed for the questions now too after two (or more) shows asking more
or less the same questions?!  Must be quite annoying though!

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] More UK media: Radio 2 5:30, Sky News 7:15

[David Gerard]

2009/8/26 Michael Peel :

> Just to explain: David's going to be on BBC radio 2, rather than me
> (as per my previous email), as he's based in London and hence can get
> to the BBC studio. The press like to geographically discriminate. ;-)


Radio also REALLY HATES mobile phones ;-) Landlines are tolerable,
Skype is pretty good *if* they're set up for it, studio is ideal.


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] More UK media: Radio 2 5:30, Sky News 7:15

[Michael Peel]

Just to explain: David's going to be on BBC radio 2, rather than me  
(as per my previous email), as he's based in London and hence can get  
to the BBC studio. The press like to geographically discriminate. ;-)

Mike

On 26 Aug 2009, at 16:19, David Gerard wrote:

> I'm on BBC Radio 2 Chris Evans for a three-minute segment around
> 5:30ish (plus or minus who knows what) and Sky News around 7:15pm.
> (Black shirt, no tie ;-) )
>
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[Wikimediauk-l] More UK media: Radio 2 5:30, Sky News 7:15

[David Gerard]

I'm on BBC Radio 2 Chris Evans for a three-minute segment around
5:30ish (plus or minus who knows what) and Sky News around 7:15pm.
(Black shirt, no tie ;-) )


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[Wikimediauk-l] Flagged revisions interview on BBC Radio 2, ~5.30pm BST today

[Michael Peel]

Hi all,

I'll be doing a short (3 minute) interview on the Chris Evans  
Drivetime show on BBC Radio 2, at around 5.30pm today, on flagged  
revisions.

I've just talked to them on the phone, and given them a brief  
overview of the situation, so hopefully things will go fairly  
smoothly...

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Daily Mail on Flagged Revisions

[Sam Blacketer]

On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Brian McNeil
wrote:

>   Both this list and wikien-l are public. To repost a substantial portion
> of a news website’s article on either of these mailing lists is a copyright
> violation.
>
Not necessarily; not if it's for the purposes of criticism or review, or for
example pointing out manifest errors.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Daily Mail on Flagged Revisions

[Brian McNeil]

On which basis it would be wisest to *not* post this material here.

 

I base that on having been reprimanded for similar actions on other lists,
and feedback from the technical people that it is very
difficult/inconvenient to remove posts from the archive.

 

So while it might be convenient, someone will have serious headaches if the
Daily Mail demands the content be removed from the archive.

 

 

Brian.

 

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[mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Paul
Williams
Sent: 26 August 2009 14:05
To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Daily Mail on Flagged Revisions

 

I was merely stating that your logic is flawed. We aren't claiming any
ownership of posts to this list, or content ownership. It's just being
reposted as a convienience.

2009/8/26 Brian McNeil 

Uh, what?

 

I snipped half a dozen paragraphs that had been copied word-for-word from
the Daily Mail's website. That's a copyright violation. The link isn't.

 

 

 

Brian.

 

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Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Daily Mail on Flagged Revisions

 

Under that logic, posting the link is a copyright violation as it does not
belong to us.

2009/8/26 Brian McNeil 

Both this list and wikien-l are public. To repost a substantial portion of a
news website's article on either of these mailing lists is a copyright
violation.

 

 

Brian.

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From: "Andrew Turvey" 
To: "English Wikipedia" 
Sent: Wednesday, 26 August, 2009 13:20:00 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland,
Portugal
Subject: Daily Mail (England) on Flagged Revisions

Local english tabloid puts it's slant on the news. Unfortunately we didn't
get any quote in there.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1208941/Free-edit-Wikipedia-appoints
-volunteer-editors-vet-changes-articles-living-people.html

 


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[Wikimediauk-l] Interview on Dublin Radio 4, ~1:30

[Andrew Turvey]

Just to let you know, I've just had an interview on Dublin's Radio 4 which 
should available soon at : 

http://www.4fm.ie/listenagain_dj.asp (about 2:41) 

(lunchtime on 4 - Wednesday - check you're not listening to last week's! - if 
you start hearing about Hurricane Bill, it's last week's) 

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- Forwarded Message - 
From: "Oliver Moran"  
To: "Wikimedia IE"  
Sent: Wednesday, 26 August, 2009 13:58:26 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, 
Portugal 
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia IE] Interview on Dublin Radio 4, ~1:30 

Just caught the tail-end of you by accident in the car, Andrew. Sounded great. 
Well done. More credit to you. 

Oliver 


2009/8/26 Oliver Moran < oliver.mo...@gmail.com > 


Thanks, Andrew. 

It's a pity we have to go across the water to get someone, but thank you. If 
the program is any of these, let me know so I can listen to the podcast: 
http://www.4fm.ie/listenagain_dj.asp 

To others, is it not time we can handle these things ourselves? 
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Ireland 

Regards, 
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2009/8/26 Andrew Turvey < andrewrtur...@googlemail.com > 







Hi everyone, 

Just to let you know, if you're in Dublin at the moment, I'm going to be 
interviewed by Dublin's Radio 4 on Wikipedia's Flagged Revisions changes that's 
been working its way round the news media. 

If you hear it please let me know what you think 

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Daily Mail on Flagged Revisions

[Andrew Turvey]

You're absolutely right - posting snips is ok, whole articles isn't. I 
apologise and wont do it again! 

Just out of interest, can we delete posts from the archive? 

- "Brian McNeil"  wrote: 
> From: "Brian McNeil"  
> To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org 
> Sent: Wednesday, 26 August, 2009 13:46:27 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, 
> Portugal 
> Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Daily Mail on Flagged Revisions 
> 
> 
> 


Both this list and wikien-l are public. To repost a substantial portion of a 
news website’s article on either of these mailing lists is a copyright 
violation. 





Brian. 

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> Subject: Daily Mail ( England ) on Flagged Revisions 


Local english tabloid puts it's slant on the news. Unfortunately we didn't get 
any quote in there. 
> 
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1208941/Free-edit-Wikipedia-appoints-volunteer-editors-vet-changes-articles-living-people.html
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Daily Mail on Flagged Revisions

[Paul Williams]

I was merely stating that your logic is flawed. We aren't claiming any
ownership of posts to this list, or content ownership. It's just being
reposted as a convienience.

2009/8/26 Brian McNeil 

>  Uh, what?
>
>
>
> I snipped half a dozen paragraphs that had been copied word-for-word from
> the Daily Mail’s website. That’s a copyright violation. The link isn’t.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Brian.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> *From:* wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:
> wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Paul Williams
> *Sent:* 26 August 2009 13:48
> *To:* wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Daily Mail on Flagged Revisions
>
>
>
> Under that logic, posting the link is a copyright violation as it does not
> belong to us.
>
> 2009/8/26 Brian McNeil 
>
> Both this list and wikien-l are public. To repost a substantial portion of
> a news website’s article on either of these mailing lists is a copyright
> violation.
>
>
>
>
>
> Brian.
>
> - Forwarded Message -
> From: "Andrew Turvey" 
> To: "English Wikipedia" 
> Sent: Wednesday, 26 August, 2009 13:20:00 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland,
> Portugal
> Subject: Daily Mail (England) on Flagged Revisions
>
> Local english tabloid puts it's slant on the news. Unfortunately we didn't
> get any quote in there.
>
>
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1208941/Free-edit-Wikipedia-appoints-volunteer-editors-vet-changes-articles-living-people.html
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Daily Mail on Flagged Revisions

[Brian McNeil]

Uh, what?

 

I snipped half a dozen paragraphs that had been copied word-for-word from
the Daily Mail's website. That's a copyright violation. The link isn't.

 

 

 

Brian.

 

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Under that logic, posting the link is a copyright violation as it does not
belong to us.

2009/8/26 Brian McNeil 

Both this list and wikien-l are public. To repost a substantial portion of a
news website's article on either of these mailing lists is a copyright
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Local english tabloid puts it's slant on the news. Unfortunately we didn't
get any quote in there.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1208941/Free-edit-Wikipedia-appoints
-volunteer-editors-vet-changes-articles-living-people.html

 


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Daily Mail on Flagged Revisions

[Paul Williams]

Under that logic, posting the link is a copyright violation as it does not
belong to us.

2009/8/26 Brian McNeil 

>   Both this list and wikien-l are public. To repost a substantial portion
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> Brian.
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> Local english tabloid puts it's slant on the news. Unfortunately we didn't
> get any quote in there.
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Daily Mail on Flagged Revisions

[Brian McNeil]

Both this list and wikien-l are public. To repost a substantial portion of a
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violation.

 

 

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Sent: Wednesday, 26 August, 2009 13:20:00 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland,
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Subject: Daily Mail (England) on Flagged Revisions

Local english tabloid puts it's slant on the news. Unfortunately we didn't
get any quote in there.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1208941/Free-edit-Wikipedia-appoints
-volunteer-editors-vet-changes-articles-living-people.html

 

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[Wikimediauk-l] Daily Mail on Flagged Revisions

[Andrew Turvey]

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Local english tabloid puts it's slant on the news. Unfortunately we didn't get 
any quote in there. 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1208941/Free-edit-Wikipedia-appoints-volunteer-editors-vet-changes-articles-living-people.html
 



Wikipedia has been forced to abandon its policy of allowing anyone to edit its 
pages. 

An army of 20,000 unpaid 'expert editors' will be drafted in to check all 
changes to articles on living people before the pages go online. 

The move is a response to the hijacking of the site by those with political or 
personal motives. 



jimmy
Wikipedia The Free Encyclopedia. logo


Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales says that the change in the system is just a test 

Wikipedia

Tory and Labour politicians, as well as 'web vandals', have falsified entries 
to discredit their enemies. 

Wikipedia was set up eight years ago as a free encyclopedia built on the work 
of volunteers. 

All contributors had the power to edit, improve and update the content and it 
has become one of the top ten internet sites with more than 13million entries. 


But well-publicised hoaxes have forced the Wikimedia Foundation, the nonprofit 
Californian body that runs the site, to curb its freewheeling ethos. 

They hope the switch to volunteer editors will curb malicious tampering and 
reduce the risk of lawsuits. Wikipedia tried to clamp down on the problem in 
2005 by banning anonymous users from creating entries. 

Experts said the latest change was much more significant and 'crosses a 
psychological Rubicon'. 

The system of 'flagged revisions' will compromise the founding principle that 
everyone has an equal right to edit any Wikipedia page. 


But Michael Snow, who is the chairman of the Wikimedia board, said it was no 
longer acceptable 'to throw things at the wall and see what sticks'. 

Jimmy Wales, one of the site's founders, said: 'We have really become part of 
the infrastructure of how people get information. There is a serious 
responsibility.' 

With millions of changes made to entries every month, it is thought that 20,000 
editors will be needed. 

Modified pages go live only with their approval. 

Wikipedia is the first reference point for many web inquiries - often because 
its pages head the search results on Google and Yahoo. 


More than 30million visits have been made to the Michael Jackson page since his 
death on June 25. 

'Wikipedia now has the ability to alter the world that it attempts to 
document,' said New York University professor Joseph Reagle. 

A limited number of popular or controversial pages are already protected, 
including those for singer Britney Spears and U.S. president Barack Obama. 


Wikipedia's credibility took a dent when it emerged in 2005 that a biography of 
American journalist John Seigenthaler, once an assistant to US Attorney General 
Robert Kennedy, had been altered to accuse him of involvement in the 
assassinations of both his boss and JFK. 

In one notorious case David Cameron’s aides altered the page on the artist 
Titian to score a point over Gordon Brown. 


And in 2007 it emerged one of its main contributors had faked his 
qualifications. 


Ryan Jordan, who had edited more than 20,000 pages of information, had claimed 
to be a professor of theology but was exposed following a magazine article as a 
24-year-old college dropout from Kentucky. 

Last year, the New York Times worked with Wikipedia to restrict information 
about the kidnapping of a correspondent in Afghanistan. 



Read more: 
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[Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania Multimedia

[Bod Notbod]

I thought I'd start this thread for people to link to multimedia
(podcasts, video and photos) of Wikimania as they find them, so anyone
that wishes to can try and pretend they're there :o)

There's a "day zero" podcast here, supposedly, but the site seems to
be down. Server overload?

http://wikipediaweekly.org/2009/08/26/episode-79-wikimania-2009-day-0/

And there's a Flickr Group here that has some pics of Stallman giving a talk:

http://www.flickr.com/groups/wikimania2009/

Please post any media you find.

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