Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Membership Fee Cut
On 17 February 2010 00:23, Tom Holden wrote: > We did not discuss PayPal in the meeting actually. The PayPal fee on £5 is > 27p at the lower fee rate, though I expect we'll shortly be moved back up to > the higher rate at which it's 37p. I don't think there's any question of us > removing the PayPal option, and it would also be counter-productive to charge > a different rate for PayPal memberships, particularly since our CRM system > cannot handle different rates depending on payment method, which means we > have to manually edit transactions for people who sign up online but then pay > by cheque. That we lose a few quid in change is a little unfortunate, but I > think it's worth it for a simple, transparent system (and for the increase in > membership). > > What we decided in essence was that in light of our earnings in the > fundraiser, we would no longer be looking to membership as a way of > generating revenue. Thus instead of looking at it as a required contribution > to us (which justified charging extra for PayPal) I guess we are looking at > it as a required level of commitment (which justifies charging everyone the > same amount). We should have thought of Paypal fees! I agree, though, the idea behind the reduction means changing extra for Paypal payments doesn't make any sense and we should just absorb the fees. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Membership Fee Cut
We did not discuss PayPal in the meeting actually. The PayPal fee on £5 is 27p at the lower fee rate, though I expect we'll shortly be moved back up to the higher rate at which it's 37p. I don't think there's any question of us removing the PayPal option, and it would also be counter-productive to charge a different rate for PayPal memberships, particularly since our CRM system cannot handle different rates depending on payment method, which means we have to manually edit transactions for people who sign up online but then pay by cheque. That we lose a few quid in change is a little unfortunate, but I think it's worth it for a simple, transparent system (and for the increase in membership). What we decided in essence was that in light of our earnings in the fundraiser, we would no longer be looking to membership as a way of generating revenue. Thus instead of looking at it as a required contribution to us (which justified charging extra for PayPal) I guess we are looking at it as a required level of commitment (which justifies charging everyone the same amount). Tom -Original Message- From: wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Bod Notbod Sent: 16 February 2010 11:35 PM To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Membership Fee Cut On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 10:46 PM, Tom Holden wrote: > Does anyone object to this? We appreciate that some of you will have > recently paid membership fees at the full rate, but if we are to make > such a cut it is inevitable that some people will have paid the full > rate in the months before the cut, I paid at the £6 rate but even had I paid the full rate I don't think I'd be too upset. Are you sure price cutting is the answer? As I understood it WMUK was already a bit peeved if people paid the lower rate via PayPal because of PayPal taking a cut, so presumably the £5 rate will cause any Paypal sign-ups to be virtually counter-productive, yet it would be my argument that Paypal's probably the single biggest area ripe for growth in garnering funds. I probably wouldn't have got my arse in gear to sign up if there had been no Paypal or at least debit card option. So I'll ask the question; if you decide to make the rate £5 are you going to remove the Paypal payment option? ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Membership Fee Cut
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 10:46 PM, Tom Holden wrote: > Does anyone object to this? We appreciate that some of you will have > recently paid membership fees at the full rate, but if we are to make such a > cut it is inevitable that some people will have paid the full rate in the > months before the cut, I paid at the £6 rate but even had I paid the full rate I don't think I'd be too upset. Are you sure price cutting is the answer? As I understood it WMUK was already a bit peeved if people paid the lower rate via PayPal because of PayPal taking a cut, so presumably the £5 rate will cause any Paypal sign-ups to be virtually counter-productive, yet it would be my argument that Paypal's probably the single biggest area ripe for growth in garnering funds. I probably wouldn't have got my arse in gear to sign up if there had been no Paypal or at least debit card option. So I'll ask the question; if you decide to make the rate £5 are you going to remove the Paypal payment option? ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
[Wikimediauk-l] Membership Fee Cut
Hi all, We are considering cutting the membership fee to £5 flat. (It is currently £12 waged, £6 unwaged.) We would like to expand membership before the AGM and we feel cutting the membership fee will help with this. It will also simplify our administration. We are planning to email everyone who donated during the fundraiser asking if they would like to become a member at this reduced rate, as well as emailing all current members asking if they would like to renew their membership at the new rate. Does anyone object to this? We appreciate that some of you will have recently paid membership fees at the full rate, but if we are to make such a cut it is inevitable that some people will have paid the full rate in the months before the cut, and in the long-run everyone will benefit from it. If it is any consolation, all three of us board members who have been on the board from the start have already paid our dues for the year at the higher rate. All comments are appreciated, Thanks in advance, Tom Holden Treasurer, Wikimedia UK ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
[Wikimediauk-l] Next board meeting: 16 February
Hi all, The next board meeting will be this evening (16 February 2010) at 8.30pm GMT. It will be by Skype, and will focus on the 2010 budget. The agenda is online at: http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetings/2010-02-16/Agenda Board members: please make sure your attendance/apologies status is correct. Thanks, Mike ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
