Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Membership Fee Cut

2010-02-17 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 17 February 2010 22:15, Charles Matthews
 wrote:
> The logic of soliciting donations is always that if there is more money,
> more can be done. Money doesn't make the world of the WMF go round, but
> in the real world money tends to be given to those who show they know
> the value of it.

Did you have a point?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Membership Fee Cut

2010-02-17 Thread Charles Matthews
Thomas Dalton wrote:
> On 17 February 2010 15:59, Charles Matthews
>  wrote:
>   
>> So, what signal does this send? For me, nothing very positive about the
>> organisation. Setting a price below a typical cinema ticket isn't really
>> a claim on anyone's respect.
>> 
>
> The idea is that members join to support us with their time, their
> ideas, their moral support, etc. People that want to support us
> financially do so by donating.
>
>   
The logic of soliciting donations is always that if there is more money, 
more can be done. Money doesn't make the world of the WMF go round, but 
in the real world money tends to be given to those who show they know 
the value of it.

Charles



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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Membership Fee Cut

2010-02-17 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 17 February 2010 15:59, Charles Matthews
 wrote:
> So, what signal does this send? For me, nothing very positive about the
> organisation. Setting a price below a typical cinema ticket isn't really
> a claim on anyone's respect.

The idea is that members join to support us with their time, their
ideas, their moral support, etc. People that want to support us
financially do so by donating.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Membership Fee Cut

2010-02-17 Thread Tom Holden
Well, but it should nonetheless be sufficient to reduce the chance that people 
sign up "for a joke" or similar. Particularly when combined with the cost of 
getting to the AGM etc. How strongly do you feel about this? Is £12/£6 actually 
any better?

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So, what signal does this send? For me, nothing very positive about the 
organisation. Setting a price below a typical cinema ticket isn't really a 
claim on anyone's respect.

Charles

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Membership Fee Cut

2010-02-17 Thread Charles Matthews
Tom Holden wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
>  
>
> We are considering cutting the membership fee to £5 flat. (It is 
> currently £12 waged, £6 unwaged.)
>
>  
>
> We would like to expand membership before the AGM and we feel cutting 
> the membership fee will help with this. It will also simplify our 
> administration. We are planning to email everyone who donated during 
> the fundraiser asking if they would like to become a member at this 
> reduced rate, as well as emailing all current members asking if they 
> would like to renew their membership at the new rate.
>
>  
>
> Does anyone object to this?
>
So, what signal does this send? For me, nothing very positive about the 
organisation. Setting a price below a typical cinema ticket isn't really 
a claim on anyone's respect.

Charles


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[Wikimediauk-l] Call for proposals for Wikimedia UK initiatives

2010-02-17 Thread Michael Peel
Hi all,

The Wikimedia UK board has been putting together a budget for the  
next year [1] and we have some money left over. We are looking for  
proposals for projects/iniatives with budget requirements in the  
range of £100-£3000 (GBP). These projects can be either online or  
offline, but they should be primarily focused on the UK and they must  
further the objects of Wikimedia UK (broadly, to collate/develop/ 
spread freely licensed material).

The deadline for proposals is the end of this month (i.e. 0:00 UTC on  
1 March 2010).

You can submit proposals on our wiki at:
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Initiatives/Proposals

The information we need to know is:
- What the project would be, in a paragraph of two
- What the benefits would be, again in a paragraph or two
- What requirements it has, in terms of a financial budget and any  
other resources. The budget should give a rough breakdown of what the  
money would be spent on.
- What volunteer time it requires, and how much time you can spend on  
the project. You would be expected to take an active role in  
implementing the project.
- Your contact details - you should have a registered account on our  
wiki that we can send emails to (note that single-user login is  
enabled, so your wikipedia account will work).

You do not have to be a member of Wikimedia UK to submit a proposal,  
although that would be preferable (membership is open to all, so you  
can always join - particularly if your proposal goes forward. ;-) ).  
Preference will also be given to active Wikimedians, although that is  
not a requirement.

We plan to set aside a budget for smaller grants (<£100), which we  
will be calling for proposals for later this year.

Please get in touch if you have any questions, and please share this  
with anyone else that you think might be interested.

[1] You can see this, and help with its development, at http:// 
uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/2010_Budget - although this is not fully up to  
date yet.

Thanks,
Mike Peel
Chair, Wikimedia UK
http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/


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