Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Talk in Bristol

[Michael Peel]

On 23 Feb 2010, at 23:12, Andrew Turvey wrote:

> There is also work in progress to reduce the technical hassles  
> involved in donating images, which may include a tie-in with Flickr."
>
I'm not sure where that came from - as far as I know, there's no  
plans to liaise with Flickr. Britain Loves Wikipedia does let you  
transfer images from Flickr, and there are ways of doing the same  
directly to Wikimedia Commons, but they aren't official tie-ins...

Otherwise, looks good - nice work Steve.

Mike

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Membership Fee Cut

[Thomas Dalton]

On 24 February 2010 07:52, James Hardy  wrote:
> One model you may wish to consider is that which I the Liberal Democrats
> use. They ask for a donation, stating that any donation over £10 (or £6 for
> concessions) entitles you to membership with a simple tick box to say "yes,
> I wish to join"

We did consider that approach for the recent fundraiser and rejected
it because we weren't sure we wanted lots of members that hadn't made
a concious decision to join and had just blindly ticked a box. Having
large numbers of active members would be absolutely fantastic, but
having large numbers of inactive members can make things difficult
(eg. it would be difficult to get 50% of members to sign a written
resolution, so any emergency business that requires a resolution of
members would have to take place at a physical emergency general
meeting with all the expense and hassle that goes with that).

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Membership Fee Cut

[Thomas Dalton]

On 24 February 2010 02:02, James Farrar  wrote:
> The AGM sets the fee but, in my experience of other organisations, I'd
> expect it to be a rubber-stamping of a Board recommendation unless the
> Board went rogue.

That is certainly how the last AGM intended things to work when the
membership rules were approved. The board does (implicitly) reserve
the right to change the fee itself, however, given the comments here,
I would oppose us doing that (I was abstaining previously).

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Membership Fee Cut

[James Hardy]

I have just paid the fee and applied to become a member this week. The
reason I have not joined previously is not the cost, but that finding my
cheque-book and buying a stamp would have been way way to much hassle for
someone as disorganised as me. I only signed up after discovering through
this thread that paypal was an available method allowing an entirely online
process. If we a pushing for membership, I think this is something that need
to be promoted, I know it costs more, but it is the easiest way to pay, and
ease counts for a heck of a lot.

Regarding what level it should be at, I disagree with the suggestion that a
low fee implies low quality. My family used to have family membership of The
National Trust and can heartily recommend it to anyone, as the member
benefits are great with free entry to their properties, which while members
we took full advantage of - we were out almost every weekend. However in
this case it was the benefits that made it truly worthwhile. I can not
really imagine any tangible benefits that WMUK can provide. After all, our
purpose is to make knowledge free, it would seem counter-intuitive to close
anything off to be members-only.

There are many charities who ask for low fees, often as £1 or £2 a month,
(so £12 or £24 a year) via direct debits. I would not regard them as small
potatoes. In this case the reason for asking is to ensure a continual supply
of money for which they can plan with. This is essential in organisations
that have ongoing costs (a dog hospital, an aid charity, an organisation
digging wells). I believe that that is not (at least yet) the case for us.
Most money comes in during the donation drive; most money goes out in
grants.

One model you may wish to consider is that which I the Liberal Democrats
use. They ask for a donation, stating that any donation over £10 (or £6 for
concessions) entitles you to membership with a simple tick box to say "yes,
I wish to join" ( https://www.libdems.org.uk/join_us.aspx ). I would imagine
the reason for this is to maximise membership (a pool of supporters that
they can call upon when things need doing) by allowing people to join
cheaply, while simultaniously suggesting that if you can afford more, it
would be appreciated by not making the default the minimum (I think the
"suggested" amount is or was £36)

Anyway, that is my 2 cents of rambling

James
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Membership Fee Cut

[Bod Notbod]

On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Gordon Joly  wrote:

> I spoke for lower fees (way back when), paid 13 quid a week ago via PayPal,
> and now you tell me it is a fiver
>
> Sheesh!

Aw, never mind: all in a good cause, eh?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Membership Fee Cut

[James Farrar]

The AGM sets the fee but, in my experience of other organisations, I'd
expect it to be a rubber-stamping of a Board recommendation unless the
Board went rogue.

On 24 February 2010 09:00, Gordon Joly  wrote:
>
>
> Membership fees are a matter that concerns the Members.
>
> The Board can set the fee(?), and the AGM is an opportunity for Members
> to express themselves.
>
> Gordo
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Membership Fee Cut

[Gordon Joly]

Membership fees are a matter that concerns the Members.

The Board can set the fee(?), and the AGM is an opportunity for Members 
to express themselves.

Gordo


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[Wikimediauk-l] London Wiki Wednesday - 3rd March 2010 - NYK Shipping, near Moorgate

[Gordon Joly]

May I remind you that since this venue is a large office block, signing 
up in advance is encouraged on this Social Text webpage.


http://www.socialtext.net/wikiwed/index.cgi?london_wikiwed_3_march_2010

Badges can then be printed in advance.



The event will be hosted by NYK  Shipping; 
address is NYK Line, 17th Floor, CityPoint, 1 Ropemaker Street, London 
EC2Y 9NY . Nearest Tube is Moorgate  We aim for people to arrive around 
*18:15 for a 19:00 formal start*. * Note:* Space is limited so we'll 
have to restrict the numbers to 45.




A sample of speakers (more may emerge) is

   * Ben Gardner
  -
 *Speaker* "Exploring the power of Semantic MediaWiki"
   * 
   * Simon Revell - *Speaker* "Constructing corporate knowledgebases
 using MediaWiki"
   * 
   * Lars Plougmann - *speaking* "The EU study of the impact of
 Enterprise 2.0. Call for cases."


Regards,

Gordon

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Membership Fee Cut

[Gordon Joly]

On 16/02/2010 22:46, Tom Holden wrote:


We are considering cutting the membership fee to £5 flat. (It is 
currently £12 waged, £6 unwaged.)





I spoke for lower fees (way back when), paid 13 quid a week ago via 
PayPal, and now you tell me it is a fiver


Sheesh!

Gordo

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