Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Preparing a proofreading contest for Wikisource's 10th aniversary

2013-11-21 Thread Richard Nevell
Adam, let's go with the Kobo and 2x £10 Amazon vouchers.

Richard


On 21 November 2013 01:53, Adam Morgan  wrote:

> Several replies here:-
>
> On 20 November 2013 10:37:44, Richard Nevell  wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:
>
> > I like your idea of the e-reader - a Kobo seems a good choice - and
> perhaps
> > preferable to Amazon vouchers. If we scale down from an ereader for the
> > overall winner, smaller prizes for the best of the week sounds like a
> nice
> > idea. I'm not sure what thiese could be though, assuming that is a
> category
> > which goes ahead.
>
> I've reduced the whole period to a fortnight (partly because I am not
> going to have time for this closer to Christmas) so that's only two weeks.
>  If we exempt the overall winner from winning the vouchers, that will mean
> two runner-up prizes of vouchers: one for the first week and one for the
> second.  I'm not sure what value of voucher would be best but, say, £10
> each?
>
>
> Can I go ahead and announce that WMUK will provide a Kobo and two Amazon
> vouchers? (About £70 worth of prizes in total.)
>
>
> There's only a few days left now.  If we do this again, I will sort this
> out properly with much more notice.
>
>
> On 20 November 2013 11:37:32, Craig Franklin  wikimedia.org.au> wrote:
>
> > But, I'm still not seeing any strategy for promoting this to the wider
> > community.  As it is, as far as I can tell the only entrants will be
> > Wikisource regulars and maybe curious people poached from other WM
> > projects.  If there was a strategy for pitching this to the general
> public
> > as a recruitment drive I could see a link to movement goals which might
> > justify spending money, but I don't see that this is a focus.  The
> > excitement of the tenth anniversary shouldn't lead to us spending money
> > without first having a good business plan and justification.
>
> I would like it to draw in new people, and I've tried to find texts that
> should be easy to proofread over a range of different types and subjects to
> facilitate that at one end.
>
> The contest will also be a useful learning experience.  I don't know about
> anything similar on Wikisource.  The English subdomain 10th anniversary is
> in 2015 and a Welsh contest might be practical in the near future too.
>
> Of course, people can't take part if they don't know about it.  I don't
> have many ways to promote this outside Wikisource but...
>
>
> On 20 November 2013 12:51:42, Charles Matthews  ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> > > As far as drawing people in is concerned, a central notice for Wiki
> Loves
> > > Monuments worked well and involved a lot of people who had never
> uploaded
> > > photos before. Would that be worth considering here?
> >
> > Yes: given the "I would never have considered looking on Wikisource"
> > comment which is fairly standard, on other sister projects, it would make
> > sense.
>
> I agree, this would help a lot.
>
> I believe the instigators of this contest are going to try to advertise
> this as well.  I will do what I can.
>
> - Adam
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Amazon Tax avoidance

2013-11-21 Thread Charles Matthews
On 21 November 2013 10:23, Jonathan Cardy
wrote:

> If the prize is a book token or equivalent to a certain value then you can
> sort out the practicalities such as Amazon v Waterstones with the winner.
> Naming the company at this stage is giving them publicity that we don't
> need to give.
>
> Given that Amazon vouchers are standard as prizes, e.g.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:The_Core_Contest

I think this discussion is rather making a meal of it.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Amazon Tax avoidance

2013-11-21 Thread Jonathan Cardy
If the prize is a book token or equivalent to a certain value then you can
sort out the practicalities such as Amazon v Waterstones with the winner.
Naming the company at this stage is giving them publicity that we don't
need to give.

Jonathan Cardy
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On 21 November 2013 09:36, Richard Nevell
wrote:

> The winners won't necessarily be from the UK, so something like
> Waterstones and WHSmith might not appeal to everyone.
>
> Fabian, do you have any suggestions?
>
>
> On 21 November 2013 09:12, Jon Davies  wrote:
>
>> Co-op bank? :(
>>
>>
>> On 21 November 2013 09:07, Simon Knight  wrote:
>>
>>> Yes that thought had crossed my mind too, I had a quick look for
>>> alternatives, the difficulty is finding somewhere with the same broad
>>> (product) appeal.  Waterstones, WHSmith?
>>> Simon
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:
>>> wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of
>>> fab...@unpopular.org.uk
>>> Sent: 21 November 2013 09:05
>>> To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org
>>> Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] Amazon Tax avoidance
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> > Can I go ahead and announce that WMUK will provide a Kobo and two
>>> > Amazon vouchers? (About £70 worth of prizes in total.)
>>>
>>> Has the Amazon Tax avoidance been sorted Out?
>>>
>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-20560359
>>>
>>> I am not sure that WMUK would want to be seen endorsing Amazon if this
>>> is not the case?
>>>
>>> all the best
>>>
>>> Fabian
>>> User:Leutha
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Amazon Tax avoidance

2013-11-21 Thread Jon Davies
FTR our main bank is Unity Trust which is not quite the co-op.



On 21 November 2013 09:36, Charles Matthews  wrote:

> On 21 November 2013 09:12, Jon Davies  wrote:
>
>> Co-op bank? :(
>>
>
> Indeed. The adoption of the superficially "ethical" bank by the chapter
> illustrates the hazards of the reasoning above.
>
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Amazon Tax avoidance

2013-11-21 Thread Richard Nevell
The winners won't necessarily be from the UK, so something like Waterstones
and WHSmith might not appeal to everyone.

Fabian, do you have any suggestions?


On 21 November 2013 09:12, Jon Davies  wrote:

> Co-op bank? :(
>
>
> On 21 November 2013 09:07, Simon Knight  wrote:
>
>> Yes that thought had crossed my mind too, I had a quick look for
>> alternatives, the difficulty is finding somewhere with the same broad
>> (product) appeal.  Waterstones, WHSmith?
>> Simon
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:
>> wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of
>> fab...@unpopular.org.uk
>> Sent: 21 November 2013 09:05
>> To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org
>> Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] Amazon Tax avoidance
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> > Can I go ahead and announce that WMUK will provide a Kobo and two
>> > Amazon vouchers? (About £70 worth of prizes in total.)
>>
>> Has the Amazon Tax avoidance been sorted Out?
>>
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-20560359
>>
>> I am not sure that WMUK would want to be seen endorsing Amazon if this is
>> not the case?
>>
>> all the best
>>
>> Fabian
>> User:Leutha
>>
>>
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Amazon Tax avoidance

2013-11-21 Thread Charles Matthews
On 21 November 2013 09:12, Jon Davies  wrote:

> Co-op bank? :(
>

Indeed. The adoption of the superficially "ethical" bank by the chapter
illustrates the hazards of the reasoning above.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Amazon Tax avoidance

2013-11-21 Thread Jon Davies
Co-op bank? :(


On 21 November 2013 09:07, Simon Knight  wrote:

> Yes that thought had crossed my mind too, I had a quick look for
> alternatives, the difficulty is finding somewhere with the same broad
> (product) appeal.  Waterstones, WHSmith?
> Simon
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:
> wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of
> fab...@unpopular.org.uk
> Sent: 21 November 2013 09:05
> To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] Amazon Tax avoidance
>
> Hi all,
>
> > Can I go ahead and announce that WMUK will provide a Kobo and two
> > Amazon vouchers? (About £70 worth of prizes in total.)
>
> Has the Amazon Tax avoidance been sorted Out?
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-20560359
>
> I am not sure that WMUK would want to be seen endorsing Amazon if this is
> not the case?
>
> all the best
>
> Fabian
> User:Leutha
>
>
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Amazon Tax avoidance

2013-11-21 Thread Simon Knight
Yes that thought had crossed my mind too, I had a quick look for alternatives, 
the difficulty is finding somewhere with the same broad (product) appeal.  
Waterstones, WHSmith? 
Simon

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To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] Amazon Tax avoidance

Hi all,

> Can I go ahead and announce that WMUK will provide a Kobo and two 
> Amazon vouchers? (About £70 worth of prizes in total.)

Has the Amazon Tax avoidance been sorted Out?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-20560359

I am not sure that WMUK would want to be seen endorsing Amazon if this is not 
the case?

all the best

Fabian
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[Wikimediauk-l] Amazon Tax avoidance

2013-11-21 Thread fabian
Hi all,

> Can I go ahead and announce that WMUK will provide a Kobo and two Amazon
> vouchers? (About £70 worth of prizes in total.)

Has the Amazon Tax avoidance been sorted Out?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-20560359

I am not sure that WMUK would want to be seen endorsing Amazon if this is
not the case?

all the best

Fabian
User:Leutha



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