Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Open Gov + CC = a marriage of convenience?

2013-12-27 Thread geni
On 27 December 2013 19:39, i...@cymruwales.com  wrote:

>   Many thanks to you all.
>
>  CC to me has always meant Creative Commons, I'm sorry for clouding the
> issue with such ambiguity! Thanks for the the link to the OGL article. If
> I'm correct: files with an OGL license can be used on Wikipedia and her
> sisters; Crown Copyright, in general, can not. Crown Copyright runs out
> after 50 years.
>
>  I'll reword my request to Cadw.
>
>  Have a great new year all of you!
>
>  Robin
>
>

Exact crown copyright expiry is slightly messy. We generally use this flow
chart:

http://web.archive.org/web/20090317005703/http://www.museumscopyright.org.uk/crown-a.pdf


FWIW I'd suggest historic wrecks are probably the stuff they have that
would be of most interest (wikipedians have a hard time getting photos of
them). The wrecks HMY Mary and Resurgam (especially Resurgam) are probably
of greatest interest but whatever it is they've found in Cardigan Bay would
also be useful.

The others listed at:

http://cadw.wales.gov.uk/historicenvironment/protection/maritimewrecks/wrecksnwreck/wreckswales/;jsessionid=VXxZPZvXfRk6tWKT47Vl7TsLn8GJX87FKnvtFhTLgrTlXttVv1cf!1741937588?lang=en

http://cadw.wales.gov.uk/historicenvironment/protection/maritimewrecks/wrecksnwreck/wreckswales/;jsessionid=VXxZPZvXfRk6tWKT47Vl7TsLn8GJX87FKnvtFhTLgrTlXttVv1cf!1741937588?lang=cy

Don't have articles but there is enough material that they could be written.



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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Invitation to Chapters and Photographers for the European Parliament Project 2014

2013-12-27 Thread Brian McNeil

Quoting Harry Burt :


Hey all.

If you haven't seen it already, UK Wikimedians, and the chapter, will
probably be interested in [1], a proposal to film, photograph, and
talk to MEPs.

Having only had a brief glance over the email, it seems like a very
credible opportunity that Wikimedia UK will want to support in spirit,
if not in more concrete terms. I post an extract below.

I apologise if someone has already posted this, but I can't recall anything.


Have you had much/any takeup on this, Harry?

Were I still living in Belgium, I'd be along grabbing whatever A/V I  
could, and sniping about Belgian laws on Interior Ministry rules on  
press credentials. Hopefully, you can persuade some of the folks  
pushing for the Belgian chapter I was told could never happen, to  
happen, to go do this.


But now I live in Edinburgh, it's the Scottish Parliament I want  
access to. Aff-Comm has recognised The Wikinewsie Group (TWG), but  
having that running as an NGO will take time.


The IMMI is why TWG is aiming for recognition and registration in  
Iceland, but I'd rather see a Yes vote next year see Scotland take  
similar press-freedom measures. Wedging a 'foot in the door' with help  
from WM-UK has to be worthwhile.




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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Open Gov + CC = a marriage of convenience?

2013-12-27 Thread Simon Knight
Robin as Mike says (/as far as I can see) Cadw is by default OGL as per 
http://cadw.wales.gov.uk/copyright/?skip=1 
 &lang=en unless it says 
otherwise (e.g. it’s identified as third party). That means for example all the 
images at this section 
http://cadw.wales.gov.uk/learning/resources/castles/earthworkcastle/?lang=en 
should be reproducible. Certainly worth clarifying and seeing how much can be 
reused!

Best

Simon

 

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Many thanks to you all.  

  

CC to me has always meant Creative Commons, I'm sorry for clouding the issue 
with such ambiguity! Thanks for the the link to the OGL article. If I'm 
correct: files with an OGL license can be used on Wikipedia and her sisters; 
Crown Copyright, in general, can not. Crown Copyright runs out after 50 years.  

  

I'll reword my request to Cadw.  

  

Have a great new year all of you! 

  

Robin 

  

  

  


> On 26 December 2013 at 23:04 Andy Mabbett  wrote: 
> 
> 
> On 26 December 2013 22:24, Michael Peel  
> wrote: 
> > I’ve started an enwp article on the OGL to better understand it, at: 
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Government_Licence 
> > Would anyone be interested in helping expand this? 
> 
> I think Jon Foster is your man for that; IIRC he helped to write the OGL. 
> 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Open Gov + CC = a marriage of convenience?

2013-12-27 Thread i...@cymruwales.com

 
  
   Many thanks to you all. 
   
  
    
   
  
   CC to me has always meant Creative Commons, I'm sorry for clouding the issue with such ambiguity! Thanks for the the link to the OGL article. If I'm correct: files with an OGL license can be used on Wikipedia and her sisters; Crown Copyright, in general, can not. Crown Copyright runs out after 50 years. 
   
  
    
   
  
   I'll reword my request to Cadw. 
   
  
    
   
  
   Have a great new year all of you!
   
  
    
   
  
   Robin
   
  
    
   
  
    
   
  
    
   
  
   > On 26 December 2013 at 23:04 Andy Mabbett  wrote:
   > 
   > 
   > On 26 December 2013 22:24, Michael Peel  wrote:
   > > I’ve started an enwp article on the OGL to better understand it, at:
   > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Government_Licence
   > > Would anyone be interested in helping expand this?
   > 
   > I think Jon Foster is your man for that; IIRC he helped to write the OGL.
   > 
   > 
   > -- 
   > Andy Mabbett
   > @pigsonthewing
   > http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
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