Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: Armenian wiki video

[rexx]

Yes, the tool creates a 720p mp4 as the first step of snatching it from
YouTube - it's 751 Kbps video and 112 Kbps audio.

I manually snatched the 720p mp4 from YouTube at the best rate that it
would give - 1135 Kbps video and 192 Kbps audio, and then I manually
converted that to webm and tried to optimise the compression, so it's
somewhat different from the auto-created version on Commons.

As it turns out, my old eyes can't detect any difference in quality between
any of the bitrates, so I reckon that Fireogg and your script turn out just
as good results as me trying to optimise everything. As I said - nice work!

Cheers
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Rexx



On 15 April 2014 13:50, Fæ  wrote:

> On 15 April 2014 13:39, rexx  wrote:
> > Nice work Fae!
> >
> > Hehe - I was converting it to webm at the same time.
> ...
>
> Rexx, I may be wrong (I did not follow the development of this feature
> in any detail), but your webm version is probably the same as the webm
> version included in the different transcoded files that Commons
> generates. Check the bottom section, "Transcode status", of the image
> page at <
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia_in_Ayb_High_School.ogv>.
> It gives several handy different types of file that can be downloaded.
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: Armenian wiki video

[Fæ]

On 15 April 2014 13:39, rexx  wrote:
> Nice work Fae!
>
> Hehe - I was converting it to webm at the same time.
...

Rexx, I may be wrong (I did not follow the development of this feature
in any detail), but your webm version is probably the same as the webm
version included in the different transcoded files that Commons
generates. Check the bottom section, "Transcode status", of the image
page at 
.
It gives several handy different types of file that can be downloaded.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: Armenian wiki video

[rexx]

Nice work Fae!

Hehe - I was converting it to webm at the same time.

If anybody wants the webm version which is 13.8 MB, rather than the ogv
which is 17.9 MB (same 1280x720), just let me know.

I think we still need to add the English subtitles, unless I'm missing
something when I play the file from Commons.

Cheers
-- 
Doug




On 15 April 2014 13:29, Jon Davies  wrote:

> Lovely.
>
>
> On 15 April 2014 13:27, Richard Symonds 
> wrote:
>
>> Hurray! Fantastic news.
>>
>> Richard Symonds
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>> operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).
>>
>> *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control
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>>
>>
>> On 15 April 2014 13:20, Fæ  wrote:
>>
>>> The video is now uploaded to Commons at:
>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia_in_Ayb_High_School.ogv
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: Armenian wiki video

[Jon Davies]

Lovely.


On 15 April 2014 13:27, Richard Symonds wrote:

> Hurray! Fantastic news.
>
> Richard Symonds
> Wikimedia UK
> 0207 065 0992
>
> Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and
> Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered
> Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT.
> United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia
> movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who
> operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).
>
> *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control
> over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.*
>
>
> On 15 April 2014 13:20, Fæ  wrote:
>
>> The video is now uploaded to Commons at:
>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia_in_Ayb_High_School.ogv
>>
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: Armenian wiki video

[Richard Symonds]

Hurray! Fantastic news.

Richard Symonds
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On 15 April 2014 13:20, Fæ  wrote:

> The video is now uploaded to Commons at:
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia_in_Ayb_High_School.ogv
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: Armenian wiki video

[Toni Sant]

Thanks, Fae!

That's useful.

Best wishes,

Toni

On Tuesday, 15 April 2014, Fæ  wrote:
> The video is now uploaded to Commons at:
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: Armenian wiki video

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The video is now uploaded to Commons at:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia_in_Ayb_High_School.ogv

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Armenian wiki video

[Gordon Joly]

On 14/04/14 22:13, Michael Peel wrote:
>>
> I'm sorry, but that's rubbish. 


OK.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: Armenian wiki video

[Fæ]

The original file may have been this large, but the one on Youtube is
not. I'll take a look at it.

Fae

On 15 April 2014 10:39, Jon Davies  wrote:
> From Lilet in Armenia - can anyone help her?
>
> lilit.tarkhan...@wikimedia.am
> Hi Jon
> I'm very happy that so many people liked our video. The video is free. We
> wanted to upload it to commons
> but as the video size is 533Mb commons didn't allow to upload such a large
> video.
> Thanks
> Best regards
>
>
> On 15 April 2014 09:31, Fæ  wrote:
>>
>> It would be super if the video were released on a free license,
>> presumably WMAM intended this to be their default but Youtube does not
>> make this easy. Someone may want to contact the Armenian chapter and
>> help them to transcode it and upload it to Commons. Users Vacio or
>> Beko may wish to assist.
>>
>> Photographs related to the making of the video have been released at
>>
>> 
>>
>> Fae
>>
>> On 15 April 2014 09:14, Toni Sant  wrote:
>> > It's a lovely video indeed, Jon. It's great to see High School students
>> > be
>> > part of a Wikipedia Education Programme.  Lilit is doing a great job in
>> > Armenia.  I would have liked to see more than just the students in the
>> > video
>> > though, by which I mean the teacher/tutor so we can hear how they
>> > prepared
>> > for this project and how other teachers could do it -- that sort of
>> > thing
>> > would make it even more useful. Convincing students is much easier than
>> > convincing teachers of the benefits of using Wikipedia in the classroom
>> > in
>> > this way.
>> >
>> > On a more minor point, I think showing a student holding an iPad is also
>> > a
>> > little misleading because it's not as easy for a newbie to edit
>> > Wikipedia on
>> > an iPad from my experience, but perhaps that's just a very personal
>> > perspective. It may also have to do with personal levels of digital
>> > literacy.
>> >
>> > Anyway, thanks for sharing this video.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> > Toni
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tuesday, 15 April 2014, Jon Davies 
>> > wrote:
>> >> Just wondering if there are any more comments on the Armenian Video
>> >>
>> >> Wikipedia in Ayb High School
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 14 April 2014 22:34, Deskana  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Indeed. It doesn't make sense to limit suggestions or offers of help to
>> >> only being from members. Anyone is welcome if they have something
>> >> constructive to say, member or not.
>> >> Dan
>> >>
>> >> On 14 April 2014 14:13, Michael Peel 
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On 13 Apr 2014, at 19:32, Gordon Joly  wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On 13/04/14 16:16, Fæ wrote:
>>  With regard to cooling it, I suppose it is hard to stop my experience
>>  and long term frustration in being unable to follow through or have a
>>  frank discussion on
>> >>
>> >> --
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>> > (who
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: Armenian wiki video

[Jon Davies]

>From Lilet in Armenia - can anyone help her?

lilit.tarkhan...@wikimedia.am
Hi Jon
I'm very happy that so many people liked our video. The video is free. We
wanted to upload it to commons
but as the video size is 533Mb commons didn't allow to upload such a large
video.
Thanks
Best regards


On 15 April 2014 09:31, Fæ  wrote:

> It would be super if the video were released on a free license,
> presumably WMAM intended this to be their default but Youtube does not
> make this easy. Someone may want to contact the Armenian chapter and
> help them to transcode it and upload it to Commons. Users Vacio or
> Beko may wish to assist.
>
> Photographs related to the making of the video have been released at
> <
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimedia_Armenia_in_Ayb_High_School
> >
>
> Fae
>
> On 15 April 2014 09:14, Toni Sant  wrote:
> > It's a lovely video indeed, Jon. It's great to see High School students
> be
> > part of a Wikipedia Education Programme.  Lilit is doing a great job in
> > Armenia.  I would have liked to see more than just the students in the
> video
> > though, by which I mean the teacher/tutor so we can hear how they
> prepared
> > for this project and how other teachers could do it -- that sort of thing
> > would make it even more useful. Convincing students is much easier than
> > convincing teachers of the benefits of using Wikipedia in the classroom
> in
> > this way.
> >
> > On a more minor point, I think showing a student holding an iPad is also
> a
> > little misleading because it's not as easy for a newbie to edit
> Wikipedia on
> > an iPad from my experience, but perhaps that's just a very personal
> > perspective. It may also have to do with personal levels of digital
> > literacy.
> >
> > Anyway, thanks for sharing this video.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Toni
> >
> >
> > On Tuesday, 15 April 2014, Jon Davies 
> wrote:
> >> Just wondering if there are any more comments on the Armenian Video
> >>
> >> Wikipedia in Ayb High School
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 14 April 2014 22:34, Deskana  wrote:
> >>
> >> Indeed. It doesn't make sense to limit suggestions or offers of help to
> >> only being from members. Anyone is welcome if they have something
> >> constructive to say, member or not.
> >> Dan
> >>
> >> On 14 April 2014 14:13, Michael Peel 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 13 Apr 2014, at 19:32, Gordon Joly  wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 13/04/14 16:16, Fæ wrote:
>  With regard to cooling it, I suppose it is hard to stop my experience
>  and long term frustration in being unable to follow through or have a
>  frank discussion on
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jon Davies - Chief Executive Wikimedia UK.  Mobile (0044) 7803 505 169
> >> tweet @jonatreesdavies
> >>
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> >
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> > toni.s...@wikimedia.org.uk +44 (0)7885 980 536
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> > operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: Armenian wiki video

[Fæ]

It would be super if the video were released on a free license,
presumably WMAM intended this to be their default but Youtube does not
make this easy. Someone may want to contact the Armenian chapter and
help them to transcode it and upload it to Commons. Users Vacio or
Beko may wish to assist.

Photographs related to the making of the video have been released at


Fae

On 15 April 2014 09:14, Toni Sant  wrote:
> It's a lovely video indeed, Jon. It's great to see High School students be
> part of a Wikipedia Education Programme.  Lilit is doing a great job in
> Armenia.  I would have liked to see more than just the students in the video
> though, by which I mean the teacher/tutor so we can hear how they prepared
> for this project and how other teachers could do it -- that sort of thing
> would make it even more useful. Convincing students is much easier than
> convincing teachers of the benefits of using Wikipedia in the classroom in
> this way.
>
> On a more minor point, I think showing a student holding an iPad is also a
> little misleading because it's not as easy for a newbie to edit Wikipedia on
> an iPad from my experience, but perhaps that's just a very personal
> perspective. It may also have to do with personal levels of digital
> literacy.
>
> Anyway, thanks for sharing this video.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Toni
>
>
> On Tuesday, 15 April 2014, Jon Davies  wrote:
>> Just wondering if there are any more comments on the Armenian Video
>>
>> Wikipedia in Ayb High School
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 14 April 2014 22:34, Deskana  wrote:
>>
>> Indeed. It doesn't make sense to limit suggestions or offers of help to
>> only being from members. Anyone is welcome if they have something
>> constructive to say, member or not.
>> Dan
>>
>> On 14 April 2014 14:13, Michael Peel 
>> wrote:
>>
>> On 13 Apr 2014, at 19:32, Gordon Joly  wrote:
>>
>>> On 13/04/14 16:16, Fæ wrote:
 With regard to cooling it, I suppose it is hard to stop my experience
 and long term frustration in being unable to follow through or have a
 frank discussion on
>>
>> --
>> Jon Davies - Chief Executive Wikimedia UK.  Mobile (0044) 7803 505 169
>> tweet @jonatreesdavies
>>
>> Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and
>
> --
> ---
> Dr Toni Sant - Education Organiser, Wikimedia UK
> toni.s...@wikimedia.org.uk +44 (0)7885 980 536
>
> Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and
> Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered
> Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT.
> United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia
> movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who
> operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).
>
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> Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.
>
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[Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: Armenian wiki video

[Toni Sant]

It's a lovely video indeed, Jon. It's great to see High School students be
part of a Wikipedia Education Programme.  Lilit is doing a great job in
Armenia.  I would have liked to see more than just the students in the
video though, by which I mean the teacher/tutor so we can hear how they
prepared for this project and how other teachers could do it -- that sort
of thing would make it even more useful. Convincing students is much easier
than convincing teachers of the benefits of using Wikipedia in the
classroom in this way.

On a more minor point, I think showing a student holding an iPad is also a
little misleading because it's not as easy for a newbie to edit Wikipedia
on an iPad from my experience, but perhaps that's just a very personal
perspective. It may also have to do with personal levels of digital
literacy.

Anyway, thanks for sharing this video.

Cheers,

Toni

On Tuesday, 15 April 2014, Jon Davies  wrote:
> Just wondering if there are any more comments on the Armenian Video
>
> Wikipedia in Ayb High School
>
>
>
>
> On 14 April 2014 22:34, Deskana  wrote:
>
> Indeed. It doesn't make sense to limit suggestions or offers of help to
only being from members. Anyone is welcome if they have something
constructive to say, member or not.
> Dan
>
> On 14 April 2014 14:13, Michael Peel 
wrote:
>
> On 13 Apr 2014, at 19:32, Gordon Joly  wrote:
>
>> On 13/04/14 16:16, Fæ wrote:
>>> With regard to cooling it, I suppose it is hard to stop my experience
>>> and long term frustration in being unable to follow through or have a
>>> frank discussion on
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Armenian wiki video

[Jon Davies]

Just wondering if there are any more comments on the Armenian Video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSbrivrpzmw




On 14 April 2014 22:34, Deskana  wrote:

> Indeed. It doesn't make sense to limit suggestions or offers of help to
> only being from members. Anyone is welcome if they have something
> constructive to say, member or not.
>
> Dan
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> On 14 April 2014 14:13, Michael Peel wrote:
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>>
>> On 13 Apr 2014, at 19:32, Gordon Joly  wrote:
>>
>> > On 13/04/14 16:16, Fæ wrote:
>> >> With regard to cooling it, I suppose it is hard to stop my experience
>> >> and long term frustration in being unable to follow through or have a
>> >> frank discussion on essential changes the charity needed and still
>> >> needs from leaking out in my emails.
>> >
>> >
>> > This list has members of the charity and non members. Hence, it cannot
>> > be used to discuss the registered charity (Wikimedia UK), since that
>> > could only be done by "members only" to have any validity.
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>> I'm sorry, but that's rubbish. Of course it can be used by non-members to
>> discuss the charity. What sort of validity are you referring to?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Mike
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