Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Public domain day tomorrow

2015-12-31 Thread Charles Matthews 

> On 31 December 2015 at 08:12 geni  wrote:
> 
> 
> Partial list of works that will hit the public domain at midnight tonight
> can be found at:
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_in_public_domain
> 
> That said this will have a fairly limited impact on wikipedia due to
> issues with US copyright laws.
> 
> 

Thanks. The impact on Commons and Wikisource is typically more noticeable. 

Some thoughts.

I was looking around on Wikidata: generating lists of creators of works with
death dates in a given year, and associated with a given country, is a natural
task for it. From a Wikisource point of view, authors who write in a given
language is relevant, and there was a game created a couple of months ago to
fill in the corresponding data - seems not to be online right now, though.

My first pass at authors dying in 1945 yielded 103, as opposed to the 72 or so
in the enWP page you give. (Those are mostly writing in German, which is
probably more to do with attention paid to the "occupation" field than anything
else.)

This business was discussed earlier in the year: the old thread at

http://wikimediauk-l.wikimedia.narkive.com/4nyiV2zt/wikidata-training-session

contains contributions from Andrew Gray, in particular a query using subclasses
of "author" which is certainly a good idea. But artists are also relevant.

A heavyweight SPARQL query that factored in the various copyright jurisdictions
would be a project I'd like to see done, of course. [1] is a bare bones "humans
who died in 1945" query, which should bring up about 10,000 hits.

Charles

[1]
https://query.wikidata.org/#PREFIX%20wikibase%3A%20%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fwikiba.se%2Fontology%23%3E%0APREFIX%20wd%3A%20%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.wikidata.org%2Fentity%2F%3E%20%0APREFIX%20wdt%3A%20%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.wikidata.org%2Fprop%2Fdirect%2F%3E%0A%0ASELECT%20%3Fitem%20%3FitemLabel%20%3Flast_time%20WHERE%20%7B%0A%20%20%20%20%7B%0A%09%09%09SELECT%20%3Fitem%20(MAX(%3Ftime0)%20AS%20%3Flast_time)%20%20WHERE%20%7B%0A%20%20%09%09%09%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP31%20wd%3AQ5%20.%0A%20%20%09%09%09%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP570%20%3Ftime0%20.%0A%20%20%09%09%09FILTER%20(%20%3Ftime0%20%3E%3D%20%221945-01-01T00%3A00%3A00Z%22%5E%5Exsd%3AdateTime%20%26%26%20%3Ftime0%20%3C%3D%20%221945-12-31T00%3A00%3A00Z%22%5E%5Exsd%3AdateTime%20)%20.%0A%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%7D%20%20GROUP%20BY%20%3Fitem%0A%20%20%20%20%7D%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%0A%20%20%20%20SERVICE%20wikibase%3Alabel%20%7B%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20bd%3AserviceParam%20wikibase%3Alanguage%20%22en%22%20.%0A%20%20%20%20%7D%0A%0A%7D%20ORDER%20BY%20ASC%20(%3Flast_time)___
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Public domain day tomorrow

2015-12-31 Thread Andrew Gray 
The "German focus" is no doubt partly down to better metadata in
Wikidata, but also ties into something I spotted years ago -
proportionally more notable people in dewiki died in 1945 than in
enwiki. http://www.generalist.org.uk/blog/2010/demographics-in-wikipedia/

Making the reasonable assumption that demographic skews in dewiki
represent a German bias, it's easy to see why - the entire country was
variously in a state of war, occupation, starvation and/or general
upheaval that year, so you'd expect a higher mortality rate compared
to most other places, even leaving aside the effect of "war deaths"
per se.

I haven't rerun this with Wikidata data (where we can use nationality
rather than language-of-article) but suspect you'd see a similar
thing. Next year (2017, for 1946 deaths) should be somewhat more
balanced.

Andrew.

On 31 December 2015 at 11:17, Charles Matthews
 wrote:
>
> On 31 December 2015 at 08:12 geni  wrote:
>
>
> Partial list of works that will hit the public domain at midnight tonight
> can be found at:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_in_public_domain
>
> That said this will have a fairly limited impact on wikipedia due to issues
> with US copyright laws.
>
> Thanks. The impact on Commons and Wikisource is typically more noticeable.
>
> Some thoughts.
>
> I was looking around on Wikidata: generating lists of creators of works with
> death dates in a given year, and associated with a given country, is a
> natural task for it. From a Wikisource point of view, authors who write in a
> given language is relevant, and there was a game created a couple of months
> ago to fill in the corresponding data - seems not to be online right now,
> though.
>
> My first pass at authors dying in 1945 yielded 103, as opposed to the 72 or
> so in the enWP page you give. (Those are mostly writing in German, which is
> probably more to do with attention paid to the "occupation" field than
> anything else.)
>
> This business was discussed earlier in the year: the old thread at
>
> http://wikimediauk-l.wikimedia.narkive.com/4nyiV2zt/wikidata-training-session
>
> contains contributions from Andrew Gray, in particular a query using
> subclasses of "author" which is certainly a good idea. But artists are also
> relevant.
>
> A heavyweight SPARQL query that factored in the various copyright
> jurisdictions would be a project I'd like to see done, of course. [1] is a
> bare bones "humans who died in 1945" query, which should bring up about
> 10,000 hits.
>
> Charles
>
> [1]
> https://query.wikidata.org/#PREFIX%20wikibase%3A%20%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fwikiba.se%2Fontology%23%3E%0APREFIX%20wd%3A%20%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.wikidata.org%2Fentity%2F%3E%20%0APREFIX%20wdt%3A%20%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.wikidata.org%2Fprop%2Fdirect%2F%3E%0A%0ASELECT%20%3Fitem%20%3FitemLabel%20%3Flast_time%20WHERE%20%7B%0A%20%20%20%20%7B%0A%09%09%09SELECT%20%3Fitem%20(MAX(%3Ftime0)%20AS%20%3Flast_time)%20%20WHERE%20%7B%0A%20%20%09%09%09%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP31%20wd%3AQ5%20.%0A%20%20%09%09%09%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP570%20%3Ftime0%20.%0A%20%20%09%09%09FILTER%20(%20%3Ftime0%20%3E%3D%20%221945-01-01T00%3A00%3A00Z%22%5E%5Exsd%3AdateTime%20%26%26%20%3Ftime0%20%3C%3D%20%221945-12-31T00%3A00%3A00Z%22%5E%5Exsd%3AdateTime%20)%20.%0A%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%7D%20%20GROUP%20BY%20%3Fitem%0A%20%20%20%20%7D%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%0A%20%20%20%20SERVICE%20wikibase%3Alabel%20%7B%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20bd%3AserviceParam%20wikibase%3Alanguage%20%22en%22%20.%0A%20%20%20%20%7D%0A%0A%7D%20ORDER%20BY%20ASC%20(%3Flast_time)
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[Wikimediauk-l] Public domain day tomorrow

2015-12-31 Thread geni 
Partial list of works that will hit the public domain at midnight tonight
can be found at:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_in_public_domain

That said this will have a fairly limited impact on wikipedia due to issues
with US copyright laws.


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