Re: [Wikimediauk-l] SOPA/PROTECT Blackout
Not too sure what the official action is but http://americancensorship.org/ suggests petitioning the State Department? Regards, Mark On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 11:12 AM, David Gerard wrote: > On 17 January 2012 11:09, Harry Burt wrote: > > > What is the official UK call to action here? > > Emailing the embassy? Or could you create a Number10-esque petition? > > Or did I miss something else entirely? > > > I'm wondering too ... we need to know ASAP. > > > - d. > > ___ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > wikimediau...@wikimedia.org > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org > ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] SOPA/PROTECT Blackout
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 10:58 PM, Alison M. Wheeler < wikime...@alisonwheeler.com> wrote: > - Original Message - > > From: "Gordon Joly" > > So who owns the Internet? Who has ultimate authority over DNS? > > A very good question indeed ;-P > > And the answer, of course, is it depends on who you are talking to. Even > though it shouldn't. And the people in one country disagree with the rest > of the world. > > Well, who does and who should is two different matters Currently the Root DNS servers are supervised by IANA, who in turn has to get permission from the US Department of Commerce if they want to change any of the root servers which hold the records for the TLDs, which then point to the nameservers for each different domain (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Root_name_server#Root_server_supervision and http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd197427(WS.10).aspx) As well as this potential area of influence for the US to control the DNS queries of the world, due to the whole nature of the internet, local networks can change/pollute DNS or network records on their networks (like the Youtube incident - http://www.ripe.net/internet-coordination/news/industry-developments/youtube-hijacking-a-ripe-ncc-ris-case-study ). All in all there are many different areas and ways that any organisation (be it a government, organisation via court orders/injuctions or just IP networks making accidents) can interfer with the internet as it is. Regards, Mark ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Test message
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 6:57 AM, Edward at Logic Museum < edw...@logicmuseum.com> wrote: > I'm still awaiting clarification from the Board about whether they are > taking collective responsibility for the *wording* of the announcement here > http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediauk-l/2012-January/006977.html > .. > > And to clarify again, it's not the fact of a ban I am concerned about. It > is > the allegations, using my real name, of real-life 'harassment' of Wikipedia > volunteers. This implies intimidation, threats of physical violence, and > so > on. I regard this as real-life harassment of myself, and legally > objectionable. No one has so far replied to any of my mails. > > Hi Edward, You may wish to check the definition of "harassment" ( http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/stalking_and_harassment/#a02a) You can see here that the Crown Prosecution Service defines harassment as "causing alarm or distress" as well as the more traditional "putting people in fear of violence" depending on which law is being applied. As such the use of the term "harassment" in its strictest use does not legally mean an incitement of violence. Please note the usual: I am not a lawyer, please seek legal advice before taking any actions or inactions based upon this information etc... Regards, Mark ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] David Mitchell
http://twitter.com/realdmitchell For future note: take @foo, remove @, go to url http://twitter.com/ ie http://twitter.com/foo Regards mark On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 11:51 PM, Gordon Joly wrote: > > > > > >He's also on Twitter > > > >@realidmitchell > > > >One to follow perhaps? > > > > > > > > > URL please? > > Gordo > > -- > > > gordon.j...@pobox.com > > Gordon Joly > 116, Hind Grove > London E14 6HP > > Home: 020 7515 4964 > Cell: 07956 203 284 > > > ___ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > wikimediau...@wikimedia.org > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org > ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Summary of board meeting + questions
Accounts can now be closed on private wikis, and there isnt really anything else that can be done apart from making directors sign a privacy agreement, which may or may not already be in place. Alternatively we could just brain wash them... Regards mark On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Martin Peeks wrote: > On 06/06/2009, Thomas Dalton wrote: > > 2009/6/6 Michael Peel : > > > > > How widely available should the Register of Members be amongst the > > > Board? We now have an internal board wiki which we currently have the > > > Register of Members on, such that it is available to all of the > > > Board. Does anyone have any objections to this? > > > > > > I see no problem with that. All officers of the company obviously have > > a duty to respect the privacy of members, I trust the board to fulfil > > that duty. > > When, however, officers of the company cease to have their role, > privacy could be compromised. What safeguards are in place? > > ___ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > wikimediau...@wikimedia.org > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org > ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Minutes of the last meeting
I would assume that is it. Mark On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 8:30 PM, David Gerard wrote: > 2009/5/31 David Gerard : > > 2009/5/31 : > > >> Just to let you know, our case was mentioned in a "Charity News > >> Alerts" new story dealing with HMRC delays. > >> http://www.charityfinance.co.uk/home/content.php?id=2838&pg=15&cat=58 > > > I see no mention at that link ... > > > Ah, you mean the Nick Palmer bit in the last paragraph? > > > - d. > > ___ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > wikimediau...@wikimedia.org > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org > ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
[Wikimediauk-l] BBC and Wikipedia
This blog post ( http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2009/03/interesting_stuff_an_open_bbc.html) and picture (http://www.flickr.com/photos/37996583...@n01/3345242414/) from a BBC event seem very interesting and promising! Maybe we should consider contacting them, as a chapter, to see if there is anything we can start to do together. The picture shows that they seem to want to encourage their experts to contribute and forming a Wikipedia club, also licensing BBC content for Wikipedia so to me it sounds like something that we should be following up on and offering as much assistance as possible both on the individual level but more importantly as a chapter. Thoughts? Regards Mark ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] ZDNet: IWF on Wikipedia block
comment seems to have been deleted? doesnt show at the bottom and this _was_ the link: http://www.zdnet.co.uk/talkback/0,101161,39616171-39001105c-20100584o,00.htm regards mark 2009/2/20 Al Tally > 2009/2/20 David Gerard > >> http://news.zdnet.co.uk/internet/0,100097,39616171,00.htm >> >> I added a very pointed comment indeed. >> >> >> - d. >> > > Nice. > > -- > Alex > (User:Majorly) > > ___ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > wikimediau...@wikimedia.org > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org > > ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: [Wmfcc-l] Tangential press: "BBC to put nation's oil paintings online"
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 8:10 PM, Michael Peel wrote: > As we're uploading from the UK, then UK rules also apply to us. probably a reasonable point, but hard to point againts us i should think (grey area ish) > > > Something additional to bear in mind: we have a thing called database > rights, which this probably falls under, and effectively gives them > copyright over their images for 15 years. > and another reasonable point > > The best thing to do is to try to work with them... :) yup :) > > > Mike > > On 30 Jan 2009, at 20:08, Mark (Markie) wrote: > > > in the US they dont, and since thats where WMF servers are thats > > the rules that apply for us. > > > > regards > > > > mark > > > > On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 7:57 PM, Andrew Gray > > wrote: > > 2009/1/30 AndrewRT : > > > My knowledge of copyright law is limited, but surely if the BBC > > > creates a photograph of an object which is in the public domain, > > they > > > still own the copyright to the photograph? > > > > Probably. > > > > In the US, this doesn't apply. In the UK... it probably does, but > > there isn't much recent caselaw AIUI and if someone took it to court > > it could potentially go either way. I'd bet on the court ruling for > > them retaining the rights, though. > > > > -- > > - Andrew Gray > > andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk > > > > ___ > > Wikimedia UK mailing list > > wikimediau...@wikimedia.org > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK > > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > > > > ___ > > Wikimedia UK mailing list > > wikimediau...@wikimedia.org > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK > > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > > > ___ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > wikimediau...@wikimedia.org > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: [Wmfcc-l] Tangential press: "BBC to put nation's oil paintings online"
in the US they dont, and since thats where WMF servers are thats the rules that apply for us. regards mark On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 7:57 PM, Andrew Gray wrote: > 2009/1/30 AndrewRT : > > My knowledge of copyright law is limited, but surely if the BBC > > creates a photograph of an object which is in the public domain, they > > still own the copyright to the photograph? > > Probably. > > In the US, this doesn't apply. In the UK... it probably does, but > there isn't much recent caselaw AIUI and if someone took it to court > it could potentially go either way. I'd bet on the court ruling for > them retaining the rights, though. > > -- > - Andrew Gray > andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk > > ___ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > wikimediau...@wikimedia.org > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Manchester Free Culture Group
i for one have spare hosting, so im sure dependant on the needs hosting wouldn't be a problem. just got to ask round. if you want to email your needs offlist ill see what i can do, if you want regards mark On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > > Which brings me to the second point - > > which is to ask whether Wikimedia UK could support such locally-based > > activities by, for example, hosting a mailing list, wiki, and/or other > > webspace? It seems to me to be well within WMUK's remit - but I'd like to > > hear what other people on this list think. > > It's certainly within the chapter's remit, but probably not within our > capabilities. At the moment we're looking to get hosting on WMF > servers, so we can't offer anyone else hosting. Come back in a year > and things may have reached a point where we can help. If there's > anything else the chapter can do, though, please ask - I think it's a > fabulous idea and is definitely something the chapter should support. > > ___ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > wikimediau...@wikimedia.org > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l
