Re: [Wikimediauk-l] - a reply and a suggestion on diversity in the membership basis

[steve virgin]

In terms of this discussion about breaking down diversity barriers, we've
had some limited success with the two events we have ran in Bristol
recently:

 

http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bristol_Wiki_Academy_1 (March 19)

 

http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_UK_2011 (April 16)

 

 

A large number of women students etc attended the Academy (about half of the
20 present) and they came mainly from this group in the URL below:

 

http://bristolgirlgeekdinners.com/ (you'll notice they kindly publicised our
AGM on the front page of their website)

 

We also saw one or two from the same group at the AGM - I believe they are
now members of Wikimedia UK (so welcome if you are reading this)

 

I think we have a 'regional opportunity' to reach out and diversify our
membership base here. I urge other Wikipedians to look for similar groups
across the country and to go and talk to them about our work and invite them
to collaborate on events together, as we undoubtedly hold a lot in common in
terms of mutual interest.

 

 

PS: I am white and middle aged so am guilty as charged!!!

 

 

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Keating
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Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Hello from the new Board!

 


P.S. Diversity of the board?

 

 There was a bit of a discussion on Twitter on Saturday about the fact that
all the candidates were white middle-aged men.* The evidence suggests that
most Wikimedians are men (70/30ish?). I had a look at the WMUK membership
list to identify gender on the basis of first names and got the impression
that the bias in our membership is a bit more skewed than that (85/15ish). 

 

My view is that this is something we need to address - and in particular we
need to make sure it doesn't become a self-fulfilling prophecy.

 

Hopefully the work the Foundation is doing in this area will be helpful.
Hopefully also the work we will do in the coming year will help us engage
with a more diverse group of people. It's noticeable that the people we
worked with at the CRUK workshop were mainly female and the gender balance
at the GLAM-WIKI conference was fairly even if you ignored the Wikimedians. 

 

More views would I'm sure be welcome...

 

Chris 

 

*NB I am not middle-aged, but accept the overall point

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] - a reply and a suggestion on diversity in the membership basis

[Tom Morris]

On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 13:06, steve virgin  wrote:
> In terms of this discussion about breaking down diversity barriers, we’ve
> had some limited success with the two events we have ran in Bristol
> recently:
>
> http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bristol_Wiki_Academy_1 (March 19)
>
> http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_UK_2011 (April 16)
>
> A large number of women students etc attended the Academy (about half of the
> 20 present) and they came mainly from this group in the URL below:
>
> http://bristolgirlgeekdinners.com/ (you’ll notice they kindly publicised our
> AGM on the front page of their website)
>
> We also saw one or two from the same group at the AGM – I believe they are
> now members of Wikimedia UK (so welcome if you are reading this)
>
> I think we have a ‘regional opportunity’ to reach out and diversify our
> membership base here. I urge other Wikipedians to look for similar groups
> across the country and to go and talk to them about our work and invite them
> to collaborate on events together, as we undoubtedly hold a lot in common in
> terms of mutual interest.
>

There are Girl Geek Dinner groups across Britain: London, Brighton,
Nottingham, Manchester, Leeds, Hull, Reading, Bristol, Oxford,
Winchester, South Yorkshire, Plymouth, Dorset and Birmingham.

I've added that list to the Institutional outreach page:
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Institutional_outreach

I've also posted on Twitter saying that WMUK may be interested in
doing events/outreach with the London GGD community.

Any ideas where we can run Wikimedia Academy events in London? I was
talking to someone on IRC who suggested collaborating with coworking
spaces. Alternatively, it would be very useful if, especially in
London, there were a few standard places we could use to run
outreach-focussed Wikimedia Academy/editathon type events. Any ideas?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] - a reply and a suggestion on diversity in the membership basis

[steve virgin]

Tom - perhaps get the guys at the Imperial College Wikipedia Society to give
you hand, lend you a room or something else?

I can ping Vinesh and put you in touch?



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[mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Tom Morris
Sent: 20 April 2011 13:53
To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] - a reply and a suggestion on diversity in the
membership basis

On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 13:06, steve virgin  wrote:
> In terms of this discussion about breaking down diversity barriers, we've
> had some limited success with the two events we have ran in Bristol
> recently:
>
> http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bristol_Wiki_Academy_1 (March 19)
>
> http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_UK_2011 (April 16)
>
> A large number of women students etc attended the Academy (about half of
the
> 20 present) and they came mainly from this group in the URL below:
>
> http://bristolgirlgeekdinners.com/ (you'll notice they kindly publicised
our
> AGM on the front page of their website)
>
> We also saw one or two from the same group at the AGM - I believe they are
> now members of Wikimedia UK (so welcome if you are reading this)
>
> I think we have a 'regional opportunity' to reach out and diversify our
> membership base here. I urge other Wikipedians to look for similar groups
> across the country and to go and talk to them about our work and invite
them
> to collaborate on events together, as we undoubtedly hold a lot in common
in
> terms of mutual interest.
>

There are Girl Geek Dinner groups across Britain: London, Brighton,
Nottingham, Manchester, Leeds, Hull, Reading, Bristol, Oxford,
Winchester, South Yorkshire, Plymouth, Dorset and Birmingham.

I've added that list to the Institutional outreach page:
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Institutional_outreach

I've also posted on Twitter saying that WMUK may be interested in
doing events/outreach with the London GGD community.

Any ideas where we can run Wikimedia Academy events in London? I was
talking to someone on IRC who suggested collaborating with coworking
spaces. Alternatively, it would be very useful if, especially in
London, there were a few standard places we could use to run
outreach-focussed Wikimedia Academy/editathon type events. Any ideas?

-- 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] - a reply and a suggestion on diversity in the membership basis

[Patel, Vinesh]

We would be very interested in having regular events on campus. We need 2 weeks 
advanced notice to book rooms and at certain times of the year things are more 
difficult to do, but we can book rooms in South Kensington, Hammersmith and 
Acton capacity up to 60 very easily, and more than a 100 with a bit more work 
needed. 


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[wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of steve virgin 
[st...@mediafocusuk.com]
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To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] - a reply and a suggestion on diversity in the 
membership basis

Tom - perhaps get the guys at the Imperial College Wikipedia Society to give
you hand, lend you a room or something else?

I can ping Vinesh and put you in touch?



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[mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Tom Morris
Sent: 20 April 2011 13:53
To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] - a reply and a suggestion on diversity in the
membership basis

On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 13:06, steve virgin  wrote:
> In terms of this discussion about breaking down diversity barriers, we've
> had some limited success with the two events we have ran in Bristol
> recently:
>
> http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bristol_Wiki_Academy_1 (March 19)
>
> http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_UK_2011 (April 16)
>
> A large number of women students etc attended the Academy (about half of
the
> 20 present) and they came mainly from this group in the URL below:
>
> http://bristolgirlgeekdinners.com/ (you'll notice they kindly publicised
our
> AGM on the front page of their website)
>
> We also saw one or two from the same group at the AGM - I believe they are
> now members of Wikimedia UK (so welcome if you are reading this)
>
> I think we have a 'regional opportunity' to reach out and diversify our
> membership base here. I urge other Wikipedians to look for similar groups
> across the country and to go and talk to them about our work and invite
them
> to collaborate on events together, as we undoubtedly hold a lot in common
in
> terms of mutual interest.
>

There are Girl Geek Dinner groups across Britain: London, Brighton,
Nottingham, Manchester, Leeds, Hull, Reading, Bristol, Oxford,
Winchester, South Yorkshire, Plymouth, Dorset and Birmingham.

I've added that list to the Institutional outreach page:
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Institutional_outreach

I've also posted on Twitter saying that WMUK may be interested in
doing events/outreach with the London GGD community.

Any ideas where we can run Wikimedia Academy events in London? I was
talking to someone on IRC who suggested collaborating with coworking
spaces. Alternatively, it would be very useful if, especially in
London, there were a few standard places we could use to run
outreach-focussed Wikimedia Academy/editathon type events. Any ideas?

--
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] - a reply and a suggestion on diversity in the membership basis

[Fae]

> that the bias in our membership is a bit more skewed than that (85/15ish).

Some folks might have missed that one member taking part at the
conference is 12 years old and a well established and respected
Wikipedian.

By the way, I was one of the candidates and I do not consider myself
"white" (or "black" for that matter) and would object if someone were
to try and class me as such as it is transparently obvious that I have
rather brown skin. Perhaps we ought to open a more subtle diversity
survey for our members that goes beyond their appearance?

Cheers,
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] - a reply and a suggestion on diversity in the membership basis

[Gordon Joly]

On 20/04/2011 13:06, steve virgin wrote:


PS: I am white and middle aged so am guilty as charged!!!


So far so good. Here is a list

1) Gender

2) Ethnicity

3) Age

4) Religion

5) Disability

6) Sexual orientation

See for example:

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Governmentcitizensandrights/Yourrightsandresponsibilities/DG_10014458

Gordo

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] - a reply and a suggestion on diversity in the membership basis

[Isabell Long]

On 20 Apr 2011, at 15:29, Fae  wrote:
> Some folks might have missed that one member taking part at the
> conference is 12 years old and a well established and respected
> Wikipedian.

Hah, I didn't realise that—great!  That makes me feel a little better, having 
only just turned 17!

Isabell.
> 

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] - a reply and a suggestion on diversity in the membership basis

[Alex Stinson]

On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Isabell Long  wrote:

> On 20 Apr 2011, at 15:29, Fae  wrote:
> > Some folks might have missed that one member taking part at the
> > conference is 12 years old and a well established and respected
> > Wikipedian.
>
> Hah, I didn't realise that—great!  That makes me feel a little better,
> having only just turned 17!


Please participate! Some of the most interesting Wikipedians I have met are
the younger ones amongst us. Also, we youth have a lot more time on our
hands with a lot less obligations, so we can do more!

Alex
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] - a reply and a suggestion on diversity in the membership basis

[Gordon Joly]

On 20/04/2011 17:09, Alex Stinson wrote:


Please participate! Some of the most interesting Wikipedians I have 
met are the younger ones amongst us. Also, we youth have a lot more 
time on our hands with a lot less obligations, so we can do more!


Alex

I am 55 and "semi-retired". Does that count?

Gordo



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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] - a reply and a suggestion on diversity in the membership basis

[Alex Stinson]

On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 5:16 PM, Gordon Joly  wrote:

>  On 20/04/2011 17:09, Alex Stinson wrote:
>
>
>  Please participate! Some of the most interesting Wikipedians I have met
> are the younger ones amongst us. Also, we youth have a lot more time on our
> hands with a lot less obligations, so we can do more!
>
>  Alex
>
>  I am 55 and "semi-retired". Does that count?
>

Of course! I just find that a lot fewer of my peers (I am only 20) are bold
about  their ability to take on big projects than people with a little more
life experience behind them.

Alex
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] - a reply and a suggestion on diversity in the membership basis

[James Forrester]

On 20 April 2011 16:11, Gordon Joly  wrote:
> On 20/04/2011 13:06, steve virgin wrote:
>
> > PS: I am white and middle aged so am guilty as charged!!!
>
> So far so good. Here is a list
>
> 1) Gender
> 2) Ethnicity
> 3) Age
> 4) Religion
> 5) Disability
> 6) Sexual orientation


Before coming up with our own list of areas of concern, the Equalities
Act sets out[0] nine "protected characteristics" that are worth
considering for scope:

1. age;
2. disability;
3. gender reassignment;
4. marriage and civil partnership;
5. pregnancy and maternity;
6. race;
7. religion or belief;
8. sex;
9. sexual orientation.

Stereotypically, we[1] are unbalanced in all of these to some extent.
We are slightly non-representative in 9 and to an extent 3[2],
somewhat non-representative in 1, 2, 4 (mostly as a consequence of 1
and 8), 6 and 7, and hideously non-representative in 8 (and thus 5). I
think any focus should clearly be on 8 (and 4 and 5, to the limited
extent that it's helpful to the community), but also fixing the other
non-representative issues too.

There was also the secondary characteristic of socio-economic status
that was considered but didn't make the Act which is worth considering
for our purposes. On a global scale, the Foundation's push towards the
Global South touches on many of these points as well as this tenth
dimension.

[0] - http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2010/15/section/4
[1] - by "we" I mean Wikimedia in the Anglosphere
[2] - over-representation against wider population

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] - a reply and a suggestion on diversity in the membership basis

[David Gerard]

On 20 April 2011 17:01, Isabell Long  wrote:
> On 20 Apr 2011, at 15:29, Fae  wrote:

>> Some folks might have missed that one member taking part at the
>> conference is 12 years old and a well established and respected
>> Wikipedian.

> Hah, I didn't realise that—great!  That makes me feel a little better, having 
> only just turned 17!


By current standards, you're past it.

(Sam Korn was on the en:wp arbcom at 16 ...)


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] - a reply and a suggestion on diversity in the membership basis

[Chris McKenna]

On Wed, 20 Apr 2011, David Gerard wrote:

> By current standards, you're past it.
>
> (Sam Korn was on the en:wp arbcom at 16 ...)

Getting off topic (sorry), but I've just been looking up age limits and 
things and in the most recent elections candidates were required to be at 
least 18. I've not looked at previous elections, but I haven't been 
able to find where that restriction came from. See 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Child_protection#Template_suggestion_-_User_current_age
 
for a bit of background.


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] - a reply and a suggestion on diversity in the membership basis

[Isabell Long]

On 20 Apr 2011, at 17:38, David Gerard  wrote:

> On 20 April 2011 17:01, Isabell Long  wrote:
>> On 20 Apr 2011, at 15:29, Fae  wrote:
> 
>>> Some folks might have missed that one member taking part at the
>>> conference is 12 years old and a well established and respected
>>> Wikipedian.
> 
>> Hah, I didn't realise that—great!  That makes me feel a little better, 
>> having only just turned 17!
> 
> 
> By current standards, you're past it.

Thanks for that lovely bit of motivation, David!  Suggestions as to how I can 
get more involved are welcome!  I do plan to come to one of the London meetups 
*soon*.  :-)
> 

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] - a reply and a suggestion on diversity in the membership basis

[Gordon Joly]

On 20/04/2011 17:26, James Forrester wrote:
> Before coming up with our own list of areas of concern, the Equalities
> Act sets out[0] nine "protected characteristics" that are worth
> considering for scope:
>
> 1. age;
> 2. disability;
> 3. gender reassignment;
> 4. marriage and civil partnership;
> 5. pregnancy and maternity;
> 6. race;
> 7. religion or belief;
> 8. sex;
> 9. sexual orientation.
>
What happened to inside leg measurement?

Gordo


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] - a reply and a suggestion on diversity in the membership basis

[James Forrester]

On 20 April 2011 18:04, Isabell Long  wrote:
> Suggestions as to how I can get more involved are welcome!  I do plan to
> come to one of the London meetups *soon*.  :-)

Though I'd be the last to discourage people from coming to the meetups
(and especially "my" meetups in London), they are primarily social
affairs and we don't get much done at them. We sometimes discuss doing
something, arrange them, or raise awareness of them, but if you're
looking to devote time in meat-space for Wikimedia-related things,
they are very much the start rather than the end. :-)

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] - a reply and a suggestion on diversity in the membership basis

[James Forrester]

On 20 April 2011 17:59, Chris McKenna  wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Apr 2011, David Gerard wrote:
>> (Sam Korn was on the en:wp arbcom at 16 ...)
>
> Getting off topic (sorry), but I've just been looking up age limits and
> things and in the most recent elections candidates were required to be at
> least 18. I've not looked at previous elections, but I haven't been
> able to find where that restriction came from.

We changed the ArbCom election rules in (I think?) 2007 to add in an
age limit after we had created the CheckUser and OverSight tools and
Arbitrators started to get much more significant levels of access to
personal information. Before then it was only infrequently that
personal information was disclosed to the Committee, and then
generally voluntarily by the individuals in question, so it wasn't
really an issue.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] - a reply and a suggestion on diversity in the membership basis

[Chris Keating]

>
>
> Of course! I just find that a lot fewer of my peers (I am only 20) are bold
> about  their ability to take on big projects than people with a little more
> life experience behind them.
>
>
I've worked with local councillors aged between 20 and 85. All the mediocre
ones were middle-aged. ;-)

The Wikipedia user survey found that the median age of people using the site
was 22, though the median age increased if you looked at only registered
users, and even more if you only looked at administrators. So the Wikimedia
community in the UK is probably much younger on the whole than the Board is.

Regarding Chris's point about age limits - I am no expert but I imagine the
legal duties of directors mean they need to be over 18?

Chris
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] - a reply and a suggestion on diversity in the membership basis

[Gordon Joly]

On 20/04/2011 22:27, James Forrester wrote:
> On 20 April 2011 18:04, Isabell Long  wrote:
>> Suggestions as to how I can get more involved are welcome!  I do plan to
>> come to one of the London meetups *soon*.  :-)
> Though I'd be the last to discourage people from coming to the meetups
> (and especially "my" meetups in London), they are primarily social
> affairs and we don't get much done at them. We sometimes discuss doing
> something, arrange them, or raise awareness of them, but if you're
> looking to devote time in meat-space for Wikimedia-related things,
> they are very much the start rather than the end. :-)
>
> J.
Apart from WSC telling HarryPotter to do something, and he did something 
else, that is a project that was report at the WikiConference 2011?

Gordo


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] - a reply and a suggestion on diversity in the membership basis

[Thomas Dalton]

On 20 April 2011 22:31, Chris Keating  wrote:
> Regarding Chris's point about age limits - I am no expert but I imagine the
> legal duties of directors mean they need to be over 18?

16, actually. Wikimedia UK has a requirement in its articles that we
can't have a majority of the board under 18, though. That is in
keeping with Charity Commission guidance. See the FAQ for details and
references:

http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK_v2.0/Candidate_FAQs#Why_do_Board_candidates_have_to_be_over_18.3F

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] - a reply and a suggestion on diversity in the membership basis

[Isabell Long]

On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:27:53PM +0100, James Forrester wrote:
> On 20 April 2011 18:04, Isabell Long  wrote:
> > Suggestions as to how I can get more involved are welcome!  I do plan to
> > come to one of the London meetups *soon*.  :-)
> 
> Though I'd be the last to discourage people from coming to the meetups
> (and especially "my" meetups in London), they are primarily social
> affairs and we don't get much done at them. We sometimes discuss doing
> something, arrange them, or raise awareness of them, but if you're
> looking to devote time in meat-space for Wikimedia-related things,
> they are very much the start rather than the end. :-)

I'm social amongst groups of like-minded people!  And the meets (the
Sunday ones?) are in a nice, seemingly friendly venue.  :-)

Thanks James,

Isabell.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] - a reply and a suggestion on diversity in the membership basis

[Gordon Joly]

On 20/04/2011 23:48, Isabell Long wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:27:53PM +0100, James Forrester wrote:
>> On 20 April 2011 18:04, Isabell Long  wrote:
>>> Suggestions as to how I can get more involved are welcome!  I do plan to
>>> come to one of the London meetups *soon*.  :-)
>> Though I'd be the last to discourage people from coming to the meetups
>> (and especially "my" meetups in London), they are primarily social
>> affairs and we don't get much done at them. We sometimes discuss doing
>> something, arrange them, or raise awareness of them, but if you're
>> looking to devote time in meat-space for Wikimedia-related things,
>> they are very much the start rather than the end. :-)
> I'm social amongst groups of like-minded people!  And the meets (the
> Sunday ones?) are in a nice, seemingly friendly venue.  :-)
>
> Thanks James,
>
> Isabell.
>
The Sunday meetings in London are held in Wetherspoons pub (Lloyds 
Number 1 bar?). Hence, food is available, and there is wide range of 
drinks (hot, cold, alcoholic and non-alcoholic). Set Sunday lunches are 
popular, cheap and include a free drink.

Future meets...

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/London/45

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/London/46

Content? Yes, it is a Wikimeet

Gordo


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] - a reply and a suggestion on diversity in the membership basis

[Michael Peel]

On 22 Apr 2011, at 11:11, Gordon Joly wrote:

> On 20/04/2011 23:48, Isabell Long wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:27:53PM +0100, James Forrester wrote:
>>> On 20 April 2011 18:04, Isabell Long  wrote:
 Suggestions as to how I can get more involved are welcome!  I do plan to
 come to one of the London meetups *soon*.  :-)
>>> Though I'd be the last to discourage people from coming to the meetups
>>> (and especially "my" meetups in London), they are primarily social
>>> affairs and we don't get much done at them. We sometimes discuss doing
>>> something, arrange them, or raise awareness of them, but if you're
>>> looking to devote time in meat-space for Wikimedia-related things,
>>> they are very much the start rather than the end. :-)
>> I'm social amongst groups of like-minded people!  And the meets (the
>> Sunday ones?) are in a nice, seemingly friendly venue.  :-)
>> 
>> Thanks James,
>> 
>> Isabell.
>> 
> The Sunday meetings in London are held in Wetherspoons pub (Lloyds 
> Number 1 bar?). Hence, food is available, and there is wide range of 
> drinks (hot, cold, alcoholic and non-alcoholic). Set Sunday lunches are 
> popular, cheap and include a free drink.
> 
> Future meets...
> 
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/London/45
> 
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/London/46
> 
> Content? Yes, it is a Wikimeet

The easiest way of getting involved is definitely to come along to Wikimedia 
events like the wikimeets or backstage passes. There's a UK-focused events list 
on the WMUK wiki, at:
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Events
There's also the on-wiki projects like WP:GLAM/BM, /BL, /DERBY, etc. which have 
plenty of things on their to-do lists that you can help out with.

There are many different ways of being involved more actively, which mostly 
rely on individuals taking the initiative, either by leading events (organise a 
wikimeet in your city [they don't just need to be in London!]; talk to local 
organisations and see if they want a Wikipedia Workshop, or a Backstage Pass 
event; ...), or putting together online projects (focus on a specific topic; 
run an online competition; ..), or anything else you can think of.

Thanks,
Mike


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] - a reply and a suggestion on diversity in the membership basis

[Gordon Joly]

On 22/04/2011 11:24, Michael Peel wrote:
> There are many different ways of being involved more actively, which mostly 
> rely on individuals taking the initiative, either by leading events (organise 
> a wikimeet in your city [they don't just need to be in London!]; talk to 
> local organisations and see if they want a Wikipedia Workshop, or a Backstage 
> Pass event; ...), or putting together online projects (focus on a specific 
> topic; run an online competition; ..), or anything else you can think of.
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
Indeed. There are various ways to get involved!!

Gordo


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