Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Historic Prisons database

2018-07-19 Thread Richard Nevell
That's a fascinating resource.

As I'm sure everyone on this list knows, castles are always relevant. So
one thing that occurs to me is that in some instances buildings will have
been converted into prisons (eg: Lancaster Castle). It might be worth
creating separate Wikidata items where that is the case and linking the
two, as otherwise you may have an inception date in the 1090s for a prison.
That's the approach being used for data from the Atlas of Hillforts, as
where a castles was built on a hillfort (eg: Caus Castle) you would end up
with two inception dates which is a bit messy.

Richard

On Thu, 19 Jul 2018 at 09:43, Michael Peel  wrote:

>
>
> > On 18 Jul 2018, at 22:26, Andy Mabbett 
> wrote:
> >
> > On 18 July 2018 at 16:44, Magnus Manske 
> wrote:
> >
> >>> A heads up that there is a new database of historic (c19th)
> >>> English prisons:
> >
> >> I am importing the list here:
> >> https://tools.wmflabs.org/mix-n-match/#/catalog/1505
> >
> > Is anyone writing a property proposal for this?
>
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Prison_History_ID
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Historic Prisons database

2018-07-19 Thread Michael Peel


> On 18 Jul 2018, at 22:26, Andy Mabbett  wrote:
> 
> On 18 July 2018 at 16:44, Magnus Manske  wrote:
> 
>>> A heads up that there is a new database of historic (c19th)
>>> English prisons:
> 
>> I am importing the list here:
>> https://tools.wmflabs.org/mix-n-match/#/catalog/1505
> 
> Is anyone writing a property proposal for this?

https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Prison_History_ID

Thanks,
Mike


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Historic Prisons database

2018-07-18 Thread John Levin

On 18/07/2018 16:44, Magnus Manske wrote:

I am importing the list here:
https://tools.wmflabs.org/mix-n-match/#/catalog/1505

Should be done in a few minutes...



If anyone is into matching these entries to wikidata entities, there's a 
wikipedia page listing UK prisons, inc. historic & closed, at:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prisons_in_the_United_Kingdom
and of prison hulks (ships):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_prison_hulks

John

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Historic Prisons database

2018-07-18 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 18 July 2018 at 16:44, Magnus Manske  wrote:

>> A heads up that there is a new database of historic (c19th)
>> English prisons:

> I am importing the list here:
> https://tools.wmflabs.org/mix-n-match/#/catalog/1505

Is anyone writing a property proposal for this?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Historic Prisons database

2018-07-18 Thread Magnus Manske
I am importing the list here:
https://tools.wmflabs.org/mix-n-match/#/catalog/1505

Should be done in a few minutes...

On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 4:31 PM John Levin  wrote:

> Dear list,
>
> A heads up that there is a new database of historic (c19th) English
> prisons:
> https://www.prisonhistory.org/
> This is a pretty canonical database - I can't think of anything like it
> for any other place or period - with a wealth of detail, and much fine
> supporting material.
> Have been adding links to it on historic prisons pages, but obviously
> can be used to create and enhance entries.
>
> John
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[Wikimediauk-l] Historic Prisons database

2018-07-18 Thread John Levin

Dear list,

A heads up that there is a new database of historic (c19th) English prisons:
https://www.prisonhistory.org/
This is a pretty canonical database - I can't think of anything like it 
for any other place or period - with a wealth of detail, and much fine 
supporting material.
Have been adding links to it on historic prisons pages, but obviously 
can be used to create and enhance entries.


John

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