Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Phorm opt-out for wikimedia.org.uk?

2009-04-30 Thread Michael Peel
A number of other chapters have already opted out. I would be very  
surprised if WMUK didn't, although I'm still unconvinced that opting  
out will actually do anything...

Mike

On 30 Apr 2009, at 10:01, brian.mcn...@wikinewsie.org wrote:

 I'd say Phorm could technically be seen as in violation of the WMF  
 privacy policy - which I assume WMUK has adopted for their own use.

 It'd delight me to see all chapters plus the WMF ensure they're  
 opted out, just to say 'no' to cooperating with a surveillence  
 scheme for advertising. I'd also say a release was needed on the  
 issue.

 Anyone from chapcom here who wants to chip in and say how the  
 others would go? even if purely symbolic, I'd even opt out  
 wikipedia.de - and then hit the press with it. if all the WMF sites  
 opt out too then that is newsworthy enough for a press release.


 Brian.

  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Phorm opt-out for wikimedia.org.uk?
 From: David Gerard dger...@gmail.com
 Date: Tue, April 28, 2009 3:02 pm
 To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org

 2009/4/28 Andrew Turvey andrewrtur...@googlemail.com:

  When the Board discussed it last we said we'd wait until WMF  
 decided - but
  the feeling was in favour of opting out.
  I've added it to http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetings/2009-05-05/ 
 Agenda
  Let me know if you think it needs to be dealt with before then.


 I'd say ask internal-l :-)


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[Wikimediauk-l] Phorm opt-out for wikimedia.org.uk?

2009-04-28 Thread David Gerard
Has James sent a Phorm opt-out email for wikimedia.org.uk yet? I ask
because wm.de and wm.fr have just opted out too.

The canonical web address is now http://uk.wikimedia.org , but opting
out provides a nice public message. For publicity purposes, I'd
suggest the Board agree it should be opted out and James send the
actual message (since he's still registered contact).


- d.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Phorm opt-out for wikimedia.org.uk?

2009-04-28 Thread joseph seddon
I thought it only was for sites hosted outside the uk?

seddon

-Original Message-
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Sent: 28 April 2009 14:56
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Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] Phorm opt-out for wikimedia.org.uk?

Has James sent a Phorm opt-out email for wikimedia.org.uk yet? I ask
 because wm.de and wm.fr have just opted out too.

 The canonical web address is now http://uk.wikimedia.org , but opting
 out provides a nice public message. For publicity purposes, I'd
 suggest the Board agree it should be opted out and James send the
 actual message (since he's still registered contact).


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Phorm opt-out for wikimedia.org.uk?

2009-04-28 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/4/28 joseph seddon life_is_bitter_sw...@hotmail.co.uk:
 I thought it only was for sites hosted outside the uk?

Our site is hosted outside the UK.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Phorm opt-out for wikimedia.org.uk?

2009-04-28 Thread James Forrester
2009/4/28 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com:
 Has James sent a Phorm opt-out email for wikimedia.org.uk yet? I ask
 because wm.de and wm.fr have just opted out too.

 The canonical web address is now http://uk.wikimedia.org , but opting
 out provides a nice public message. For publicity purposes, I'd
 suggest the Board agree it should be opted out and James send the
 actual message (since he's still registered contact).

Assuming all goes well, I'm about not to be (at least for
wikimedia.co.uk; if that works, we'll do .org.uk immediately
thereafter). Not sure about timings etc.

Happy to undertake any action which the Board requests of me, of course. :-)

J.
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James D. Forrester
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[[Wikipedia:User:Jdforrester|James F.]]

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Phorm opt-out for wikimedia.org.uk?

2009-04-28 Thread Andrew Turvey
When the Board discussed it last we said we'd wait until WMF decided - but the 
feeling was in favour of opting out. 

I've added it to http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetings/2009-05-05/Agenda 

Let me know if you think it needs to be dealt with before then. 

Andrew 

- Original Message - 
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To: James Forrester jdforres...@gmail.com 
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Sent: Tuesday, 28 April, 2009 18:07:08 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, 
Portugal 
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Phorm opt-out for wikimedia.org.uk? 

2009/4/28 James Forrester jdforres...@gmail.com: 

 Assuming all goes well, I'm about not to be (at least for 
 wikimedia.co.uk; if that works, we'll do .org.uk immediately 
 thereafter). Not sure about timings etc. 


Oh yes, any and all! 


 Happy to undertake any action which the Board requests of me, of course. :-) 


I'm thinking of the publicity utility of the phrase The Board of 
Wikimedia UK unanimously voted that wikimedia.org.uk and 
wikimedia.co.uk should be opted out of Phorm, and a request has been 
sent to this effect. 


- d. 

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Phorm opt-out for wikimedia.org.uk?

2009-04-28 Thread David Gerard
2009/4/28 Andrew Turvey andrewrtur...@googlemail.com:

 When the Board discussed it last we said we'd wait until WMF decided - but
 the feeling was in favour of opting out.
 I've added it to http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetings/2009-05-05/Agenda
 Let me know if you think it needs to be dealt with before then.


I'd say ask internal-l :-)


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Phorm

2009-04-17 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/4/17 Oldak Quill oldakqu...@gmail.com:
 2009/4/17 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com:
 2009/4/17 joseph seddon life_is_bitter_sw...@hotmail.co.uk:
 We are not amoungst those addresses listed.

 wikimedia.org.uk isn't controlled by the WMF, so of course they didn't
 list it. uk.wikimedia.org is a subdomain of wikimedia.org, which is
 listed.

 Someone on the board of directors with an @wikimedia.org.uk address
 should send an e-mail to website-exclus...@webwise.com opting-out
 wikimedia.org.uk . Webwise just need to know that the organisation
 that owns the domain is making the request.

We don't currently own that domain. Hopefully we will in a few days.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Phorm

2009-04-16 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/4/17 joseph seddon life_is_bitter_sw...@hotmail.co.uk:
 We are not amoungst those addresses listed.

wikimedia.org.uk isn't controlled by the WMF, so of course they didn't
list it. uk.wikimedia.org is a subdomain of wikimedia.org, which is
listed.

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[Wikimediauk-l] Phorm

2009-03-27 Thread Andrew Turvey

Is there any way we can opt-out of this for uk.wikimedia.org?
 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Phorm

2009-03-27 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/3/27 geni geni...@gmail.com:
 2009/3/27 Andrew Turvey ratur...@yahoo.co.uk:

 Is there any way we can opt-out of this for uk.wikimedia.org?

 You would need server side access and even then you would run into
 issues with wikimedia foundation policy of allowing access as widely
 as possible.

This is, indeed, something to be determined at the foundation level.
They might be receptive - it's worth starting a discussion (perhaps on
foundation-l).

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Phorm

2009-03-27 Thread geni
2009/3/27 Andrew Turvey ratur...@yahoo.co.uk:

 Is there any way we can opt-out of this for uk.wikimedia.org?

You would need server side access and even then you would run into
issues with wikimedia foundation policy of allowing access as widely
as possible.


-- 
geni

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