Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WLM awards ceremony and community Xmas party 2014

2014-12-18 Thread Gordon Joly
On 17/12/14 17:14, geni wrote:
 
 This will not end well. To put it mildly.


Instagram next?

Gordo


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WLM awards ceremony and community Xmas party 2014

2014-12-17 Thread Ed Hand
Dear Gordo and list
Thanks - I didn't know about HDR:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-dynamic-range_imaging

This phenomenon was troubling me too, and now I have a name for it.

Personally, all I do before uploading images to Commons is the occassional
rotation, crop or slight sharpen.  However, I've been uploading too many
images to have time for much else.

As for WLM, I don't recall any mention in the judging criteria of the
desirability (or otherwise) of various post-processing techniques.  If I
was looking to select an image for a Wikipedia article, I would be
reluctant to choose a heavily-stylized image.  Of course, WLM and Commons
are not looking to merely provide an image bank for Wikipedia.

Perhaps the judges could consider providing some guidance about HDR and
other post-processing techniques for next year's WLM ?

best wishes
Edward Hands (Edwardx)

On 12 December 2014 at 12:57, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote:


  during the creation of a calendar of the most impressive photos from
  Wiki Loves Monuments UK 2014 (and several other countries) I learned
  about re-use:
 
  * Wiki Loves Monuments is not a registered trademark - the publisher
  was very afraid of violating a trademark
  * photos without description nearly useless (Church is not an adequate
  description)
  * low resolution is a common problem
  * in the publishing industry nobody knows about Creative Commons
  licenses (Is CC-BY-SA-3.0 the artist's name?)
  * landscape mode beats upright mode


 Can I say how much I dislike the very obvious of HDR in many images? My
 personal choice is always for minimal or zero post processing.



 Gordo


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WLM awards ceremony and community Xmas party 2014

2014-12-17 Thread HJ Mitchell
Perhaps in future years we could request that participants upload the original 
(give or take a little cropping/rotation/other things that wouldn't be seen as 
affecting the 'authenticity' of the photo) as well as the HDR'd version?   
Harry Mitchellhttp://enwp.org/User:HJ
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 Sent: Wednesday, 17 December 2014, 16:21
 Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WLM awards ceremony and community Xmas party 2014
   
Dear Gordo and list
Thanks - I didn't know about HDR:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-dynamic-range_imaging

This phenomenon was troubling me too, and now I have a name for it.

Personally, all I do before uploading images to Commons is the occassional 
rotation, crop or slight sharpen.  However, I've been uploading too many images 
to have time for much else.

As for WLM, I don't recall any mention in the judging criteria of the 
desirability (or otherwise) of various post-processing techniques.  If I was 
looking to select an image for a Wikipedia article, I would be reluctant to 
choose a heavily-stylized image.  Of course, WLM and Commons are not looking to 
merely provide an image bank for Wikipedia.

Perhaps the judges could consider providing some guidance about HDR and other 
post-processing techniques for next year's WLM ?

best wishes
Edward Hands (Edwardx)

On 12 December 2014 at 12:57, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote:

 during the creation of a calendar of the most impressive photos from
 Wiki Loves Monuments UK 2014 (and several other countries) I learned
 about re-use:

 * Wiki Loves Monuments is not a registered trademark - the publisher
 was very afraid of violating a trademark
 * photos without description nearly useless (Church is not an adequate
 description)
 * low resolution is a common problem
 * in the publishing industry nobody knows about Creative Commons
 licenses (Is CC-BY-SA-3.0 the artist's name?)
 * landscape mode beats upright mode


Can I say how much I dislike the very obvious of HDR in many images? My
personal choice is always for minimal or zero post processing.



Gordo


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WLM awards ceremony and community Xmas party 2014

2014-12-17 Thread geni
On 17 December 2014 at 16:35, HJ Mitchell hjmitch...@ymail.com wrote:

 Perhaps in future years we could request that participants upload the
 original (give or take a little cropping/rotation/other things that
 wouldn't be seen as affecting the 'authenticity' of the photo) as well as
 the HDR'd version?



This will not end well. To put it mildly.

Start with the technical issues. 5DIII does in camera HDR as does any
camera that you can instal Magic Lantern on. Originals are impossible to
upload since commons doesn't support RAW.

More politically authenticity is a very charged word in photo circles
(insert claims about amount of stuff done in darkrooms). Wikipedia deals
with it by not caring.

The issue is best dealt with by choosing judges that don't like over the
top tone mapping.


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WLM awards ceremony and community Xmas party 2014

2014-12-12 Thread Sebastian Wallroth

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Hi all,

during the creation of a calendar of the most impressive photos from
Wiki Loves Monuments UK 2014 (and several other countries) I learned
about re-use:

* Wiki Loves Monuments is not a registered trademark - the publisher
was very afraid of violating a trademark
* photos without description nearly useless (Church is not an adequate
description)
* low resolution is a common problem
* in the publishing industry nobody knows about Creative Commons
licenses (Is CC-BY-SA-3.0 the artist's name?)
* landscape mode beats upright mode

I still working on
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2014_winners to
add descriptions, the photographers name and the licenses - any help is
welcome.

Here are the amazon links of the UK calendars:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Monuments-United-Kingdom-Calendar-Landscape/dp/1325047880/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1418373266sr=8-1keywords=9781325047888
http://www.amazon.de/Monuments-United-Kingdom-Calendar-Landscape/dp/1325047899/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8qid=1418373063sr=8-4keywords=monuments+of+the+united+kingdom

Overview of all 2015 calendars:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Sebastian_Wallroth/Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2014_Calendars

Kind regards,
Sebastian

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Am 04.12.2014 um 11:13 schrieb Fabian Tompsett:
 Hi all,

 We shall be having a Wiki Loves Monuments and community Xmas party
2014 in the basement at Development House on Thursday 18th December from
5pm to 8pm.

 Please bring a bottle to add to the festivities.

 It would be great to see you there.


 all the best

 Fabian Tompsett,
 Volunteer Support Organiser,
 Wikimedia UK,
 Address: 56-64 Leonard St,
 Shoreditch,
 London EC2A 4LT
 Phone:020 7065 0990
 *Mobile: *07840 455 746


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WLM awards ceremony and community Xmas party 2014

2014-12-12 Thread Gordon Joly

 during the creation of a calendar of the most impressive photos from
 Wiki Loves Monuments UK 2014 (and several other countries) I learned
 about re-use:
 
 * Wiki Loves Monuments is not a registered trademark - the publisher
 was very afraid of violating a trademark
 * photos without description nearly useless (Church is not an adequate
 description)
 * low resolution is a common problem
 * in the publishing industry nobody knows about Creative Commons
 licenses (Is CC-BY-SA-3.0 the artist's name?)
 * landscape mode beats upright mode


Can I say how much I dislike the very obvious of HDR in many images? My
personal choice is always for minimal or zero post processing.



Gordo


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WLM awards ceremony and community Xmas party 2014

2014-12-12 Thread Sebastian Wallroth

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Addenum: sometimes the credit line can only have ASCII letters → if the
photographers name contains non-ASCII letters like umlauts, arabic, or
cyrillic letters, an additional ASCII version would be helpful


Am 12.12.2014 um 10:08 schrieb Sebastian Wallroth:

 Hi all,

 during the creation of a calendar of the most impressive photos from
 Wiki Loves Monuments UK 2014 (and several other countries) I learned
 about re-use:

 * Wiki Loves Monuments is not a registered trademark - the publisher
 was very afraid of violating a trademark
 * photos without description nearly useless (Church is not an adequate
 description)
 * low resolution is a common problem
 * in the publishing industry nobody knows about Creative Commons
 licenses (Is CC-BY-SA-3.0 the artist's name?)
 * landscape mode beats upright mode

 I still working on
 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2014_winners to
 add descriptions, the photographers name and the licenses - any help is
 welcome.

 Here are the amazon links of the UK calendars:


http://www.amazon.co.uk/Monuments-United-Kingdom-Calendar-Landscape/dp/1325047880/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1418373266sr=8-1keywords=9781325047888

http://www.amazon.de/Monuments-United-Kingdom-Calendar-Landscape/dp/1325047899/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8qid=1418373063sr=8-4keywords=monuments+of+the+united+kingdom

 Overview of all 2015 calendars:

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Sebastian_Wallroth/Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2014_Calendars

 Kind regards,
 Sebastian

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 Am 04.12.2014 um 11:13 schrieb Fabian Tompsett:
  Hi all,

  We shall be having a Wiki Loves Monuments and community Xmas party
 2014 in the basement at Development House on Thursday 18th December from
 5pm to 8pm.

  Please bring a bottle to add to the festivities.

  It would be great to see you there.


  all the best

  Fabian Tompsett,
  Volunteer Support Organiser,
  Wikimedia UK,
  Address: 56-64 Leonard St,
  Shoreditch,
  London EC2A 4LT
  Phone:020 7065 0990
  *Mobile: *07840 455 746


  Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England
 and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513.
 Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street,
 London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a
 global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the
 Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).


  Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WLM awards ceremony and community Xmas party 2014

2014-12-11 Thread Judith Scammell
Dear Fabian

 

Many thanks for the invitation but I’m sorry I can’t make it  - I hope it goes 
with a swing and have a very Happy Christmas!

 

Best wishes

Judith Scammell

 

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Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] WLM awards ceremony and community Xmas party 2014

 

Hi all,

We shall be having a Wiki Loves Monuments and community Xmas party 2014 in the 
basement at Development House on Thursday 18th December from 5pm to 8pm.

Please bring a bottle to add to the festivities.

 

It would be great to see you there.





all the best

Fabian Tompsett,

Volunteer Support Organiser,

Wikimedia UK,

Address: 56-64 Leonard St,
Shoreditch,
London EC2A 4LT 

Phone:020 7065 0990 

Mobile: 07840 455 746



Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, 
Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th 
Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United 
Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The 
Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, 
amongst other projects).

 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WLM awards ceremony and community Xmas party 2014

2014-12-09 Thread Ed Hand
Fabian
I'll be there to collect my award, and bringing a bottle or two.
Edward

On 4 December 2014 at 10:13, Fabian Tompsett 
fabian.tomps...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:

 Hi all,

 We shall be having a Wiki Loves Monuments and community Xmas party 2014 in
 the basement at Development House on Thursday 18th December from 5pm to 8pm.

 Please bring a bottle to add to the festivities.

 It would be great to see you there.


 all the best

 Fabian Tompsett,
 Volunteer Support Organiser,
 Wikimedia UK,
 Address: 56-64 Leonard St,
 Shoreditch,
 London EC2A 4LT
  Phone:020 7065 0990
 *Mobile: *07840 455 746


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[Wikimediauk-l] WLM awards ceremony and community Xmas party 2014

2014-12-04 Thread Fabian Tompsett
Hi all,

We shall be having a Wiki Loves Monuments and community Xmas party 2014 in
the basement at Development House on Thursday 18th December from 5pm to 8pm.

Please bring a bottle to add to the festivities.

It would be great to see you there.


all the best

Fabian Tompsett,
Volunteer Support Organiser,
Wikimedia UK,
Address: 56-64 Leonard St,
Shoreditch,
London EC2A 4LT
 Phone:020 7065 0990
*Mobile: *07840 455 746


Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and
Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered
Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT.
United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WLM awards ceremony and community Xmas party 2014

2014-12-04 Thread D'Arcy Myers
Dear All
It should be a great night and I am looking forward to meeting as many of you 
as possible. So do try to come along if you can.
Kind regards
D'Arcy

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amongst other projects).
Telephone (0044) 207 065 0990.  
 
Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and 
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 On 4 Dec 2014, at 10:13, Fabian Tompsett fabian.tomps...@wikimedia.org.uk 
 wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 We shall be having a Wiki Loves Monuments and community Xmas party 2014 in 
 the basement at Development House on Thursday 18th December from 5pm to 8pm.
 
 Please bring a bottle to add to the festivities.
 
 It would be great to see you there.
 
 
 all the best
 
 Fabian Tompsett,
 Volunteer Support Organiser,
 Wikimedia UK,
 Address: 56-64 Leonard St,
 Shoreditch,
 London EC2A 4LT
 Phone:020 7065 0990
 Mobile: 07840 455 746
 
 
 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and 
 Wales, Registered No. 6741827 . Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered 
 Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT 
 . United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia 
 movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who 
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 Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and 
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