[Wikimediauk-l] Wikimeet survey results

[Michael Peel]

Hi all,

I'm pleased to announce the results of the wikimeet survey that ran late last 
year. The summary and full details are now on Meta at:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/UK_Wikimeet_survey_2015

The key results from the survey that should affect future wikimeets are:
- Organising wikimeets in South East England should be a priority (We are 
assuming that when people selected this, they meant official South East England 
region, which does not include London, since that was a separate option)
- There should be more local wikimeets: ideally they should be no more than 
about 30 minutes away from a number of Wikimedians, who should only have to pay 
£5-£10 to get to the wikimeet by public transportation.
- The best times for a wikimeet are on Saturday or Sunday afternoons, 
preferably in a museum/cultural institute or a cafe rather than a pub.
- Better notifications should be sent around about upcoming wikimeets, ideally 
through email, user talk pages and watchlists, on a regional or UK-wide basis 
about a month in advance of the wikimeet.
- There are a number of people who would potentially be willing to organise a 
local wikimeet, but most need more information about this, and others need 
assistance. WMUK should follow up with those that are willing to organise 
wikimeets to offer them any support/assistance that they need.

Please post any comments on the talk page for the results. Hopefully we can try 
implementing some of the suggested changes to wikimeets and the way that 
wikimeet notifications are circulated in the near future!

Thanks,
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[Wikimediauk-l] Wikimeet

[Jon Davies]

Alas have lots of people coming round that day - hope it goes well -
remember the 57th with some clarity - don't ask


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimeet survey

[Michael Peel]

Hi all,

I'll be closing the survey shortly, so if you want to fill it in but haven't 
yet, then please do so today!

Thanks,
Mike

> On 20 Sep 2015, at 18:32, Michael Peel  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> The survey is now live at:
> https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/JJMNVVD 
> 
> Please fill it in!
> 
> Thanks,
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[D'Arcy Myers]

Great.
D'Arcy

On 21 September 2015 at 09:04, Michael Peel  wrote:

> Hi D'Arcy,
>
> Thanks! I've now added that option at the end. People can also sign up
> on-wiki at:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mike_Peel/Wikimeet_survey/notification_list
> to receive a summary of the findings.
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
> On 21 Sep 2015, at 08:18, D'Arcy Myers 
> wrote:
>
> Dear Mike
> Good survey. Is it too late to add a contacts section at the end for
> people who would like to leave their details so that they can receive a
> summary of the survey findings?
> Kind regards
> D'Arcy
>
> On 20 September 2015 at 17:32, Michael Peel  wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> The survey is now live at:
>> https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/JJMNVVD
>> Please fill it in!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Mike
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimeet survey

[Michael Peel]

Hi D'Arcy,

Thanks! I've now added that option at the end. People can also sign up on-wiki 
at:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mike_Peel/Wikimeet_survey/notification_list 

to receive a summary of the findings.

Thanks,
Mike

> On 21 Sep 2015, at 08:18, D'Arcy Myers  wrote:
> 
> Dear Mike
> Good survey. Is it too late to add a contacts section at the end for people 
> who would like to leave their details so that they can receive a summary of 
> the survey findings?
> Kind regards
> D'Arcy
> 
> On 20 September 2015 at 17:32, Michael Peel  > wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> The survey is now live at:
> https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/JJMNVVD 
> 
> Please fill it in!
> 
> Thanks,
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimeet survey

[D'Arcy Myers]

Dear Mike
Good survey. Is it too late to add a contacts section at the end for people
who would like to leave their details so that they can receive a summary of
the survey findings?
Kind regards
D'Arcy

On 20 September 2015 at 17:32, Michael Peel  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> The survey is now live at:
> https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/JJMNVVD
> Please fill it in!
>
> Thanks,
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimeet survey

[Michael Peel]

Hi all,

The survey is now live at:
https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/JJMNVVD 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimeet survey

[Michael Peel]

Hi all,

Thanks for your comments! And sorry for the delay in moving this forward. I 
think it's now pretty much finalised, so if anyone has any last comments please 
let me know. The latest version is at:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mike_Peel/Wikimeet_survey#Survey

In response to a couple of the points raised:

> On 14 May 2015, at 07:55, Michael Maggs  wrote:
> 
> This sounds a very worthwhile exercise and subject to comments by D'Arcy and 
> the staff team I think it's very likely that this could be done association 
> with WMUK.  No doubt the bulk of the work in preparing the survey and 
> analysing the results would be done by a group of volunteers, with you 
> leading (volunteers in front, as it should be!).  Do you have an idea of what 
> resources you'd like from the charity?  Perhaps WMUK could use its volunteer 
> and member database to broaden the reach of the survey by distributing it by 
> email?


Thanks! The resources I'm hoping WMUK can provide are:
- Access to survey software to run the survey (e.g., surveymonkey);
- Oversight to make sure that the survey data is kept confidential and deleted 
after the results have been compiled;
- Distribution through its volunteer/membership database.
I'll email D'Arcy and Richard to see if this is possible, and to start 
preparing the survey to be run.

> On 18 May 2015, at 12:12, Charles Matthews  
> wrote:
> 
> I had one comment, about audience(s). There are people who attend meetups, 
> and people who might. There are those who organise them, and again those who 
> might. Some division up of questions accordingly could be helpful.

There are questions about how many wikimeets people have attended, and I've 
also added one about whether they've organised one. I'm not sure that we want 
to ask each group different questions; I think this is where cross-correlations 
between the different answers might provide useful insights.

Thanks,
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimeet survey

[Richard Farmbrough]

I spent many happy months in Stratford, programming a GEAC 9000.  I think
that was before "posh shops" like Waitrose arrived.

On 29 June 2015 at 17:34, Edward Saperia  wrote:

>
>
>>  My feeling is that London is such a big city that it could support a
>> number of new initiatives like this at different points of the compass,
>> while keeping the regular meetup as a pub lunch in Pederel's Oak. I will
>> keep my eyes open to see if anyone else steps forward on this.
>>
>
> I'd be keen to host some stuff in my venue, if anyone wants to organise
> anything. If you're coming to the AGM you'll get to see it.
>
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>>  On 02 June 2015 at 18:32 "leu...@fabiant.eu"  wrote:
>>
>>  Whilst I take Fae's point, I don't think we need to call closing time on
>> meeting in pubs, but rather innovate other places to meet. And yes, this
>> has been discussed for ages, but all it needs is for someone to find a
>> venue and start organising a meet up, rather than talk about it.
>>
>>  all the best
>>
>>  Fabian (User:Leutha)
>>
>>
>> > On 15 May 2015 at 16:18 Fæ  wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > After having been discussed with many non-pub suggestions raised in
>> > the past few years, I'd really like to see this change. I hope the
>> > survey supports that viewpoint.
>> >
>> > People have many reasons for not wanting to meet in pubs, not just
>> > religious. I've been teetotal for the last 15 years, and after sadly
>> > supporting two relatives who eventually died from medical conditions
>> > made much worse by never giving up drinking alcohol, I really don't
>> > want to be part of encouraging others to have the same lifestyle. I
>> > have never liked being near people affected by booze, they spook me a
>> > little due to being unpredictable. I guess many who are not big butch
>> > men like me, find the environment intimidating even on a quiet day or
>> > in a quiet pub.
>> >
>> > Call closing time on this tradition, we know better.
>> >
>> > Fae
>> >
>> > On 15 May 2015 at 12:31, Gordon Joly  wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Of course, it’s not mandatory to drink while in a pub. ;)
>> > >>
>> > >> Joe
>> > >>
>> > >> --
>> > >> *Joe Sutherland*
>> > >> http://jossu.co.uk
>> > >
>> > > Yes, but I had a birthday party in a pub and a Muslim friend refused
>> to
>> > > join us.
>> > >
>> > > Gordo
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimeet survey

[Edward Saperia]

>  My feeling is that London is such a big city that it could support a
> number of new initiatives like this at different points of the compass,
> while keeping the regular meetup as a pub lunch in Pederel's Oak. I will
> keep my eyes open to see if anyone else steps forward on this.
>

I'd be keen to host some stuff in my venue, if anyone wants to organise
anything. If you're coming to the AGM you'll get to see it.

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>  On 02 June 2015 at 18:32 "leu...@fabiant.eu"  wrote:
>
>  Whilst I take Fae's point, I don't think we need to call closing time on
> meeting in pubs, but rather innovate other places to meet. And yes, this
> has been discussed for ages, but all it needs is for someone to find a
> venue and start organising a meet up, rather than talk about it.
>
>  all the best
>
>  Fabian (User:Leutha)
>
>
> > On 15 May 2015 at 16:18 Fæ  wrote:
> >
> >
> > After having been discussed with many non-pub suggestions raised in
> > the past few years, I'd really like to see this change. I hope the
> > survey supports that viewpoint.
> >
> > People have many reasons for not wanting to meet in pubs, not just
> > religious. I've been teetotal for the last 15 years, and after sadly
> > supporting two relatives who eventually died from medical conditions
> > made much worse by never giving up drinking alcohol, I really don't
> > want to be part of encouraging others to have the same lifestyle. I
> > have never liked being near people affected by booze, they spook me a
> > little due to being unpredictable. I guess many who are not big butch
> > men like me, find the environment intimidating even on a quiet day or
> > in a quiet pub.
> >
> > Call closing time on this tradition, we know better.
> >
> > Fae
> >
> > On 15 May 2015 at 12:31, Gordon Joly  wrote:
> > >
> > >> Of course, it’s not mandatory to drink while in a pub. ;)
> > >>
> > >> Joe
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> *Joe Sutherland*
> > >> http://jossu.co.uk
> > >
> > > Yes, but I had a birthday party in a pub and a Muslim friend refused
> to
> > > join us.
> > >
> > > Gordo
> > --
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[leu...@fabiant.eu]

I am afraid we did not pay attention to such issues. Have you got a reference
for that?

> On 28 June 2015 at 22:05 Gordon Joly  wrote:
>
>
> On 28/06/15 14:48, leu...@fabiant.eu wrote:
> > We met in Waitrose which is very quiet on a Wednesday evening.
>
>
>
> Could pick my shopping too!
>
> Was the John Lewis cafe? Waitrose is the lowest of several floors.
>
> Gordo
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[Gordon Joly]

On 28/06/15 14:48, leu...@fabiant.eu wrote:
> We met in Waitrose which is very quiet on a Wednesday evening.



Could pick my shopping too!

Was the John Lewis cafe? Waitrose is the lowest of several floors.

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[leu...@fabiant.eu]

Well, following this we had our first East London Wiki Meetup
 last Wednesday. We met in
Waitrose which is very quiet on a Wednesday evening. It is also cheap if you
have a Waitrose card, which means that you can get a free coffee paying the cost
of a cake which can be less than the price of the coffee.

Five of us gathered and I feel that we all generally enjoyed the occasion. We
are planning another in Stratford Westfield
  in July.

My feeling is that London is such a big city that it could support a number of
new initiatives like this at different points of the compass, while keeping the
regular meetup as a pub lunch in Pederel's Oak. I will keep my eyes open to see
if anyone else steps forward on this.

all the best

Fabian

> On 02 June 2015 at 18:32 "leu...@fabiant.eu"  wrote:
> 
>  Whilst I take Fae's point, I don't think we need to call closing time on
> meeting in pubs, but rather innovate other places to meet. And yes, this has
> been discussed for ages, but all it needs is for someone to find a venue and
> start organising a meet up, rather than talk about it.
> 
>  all the best
> 
>  Fabian (User:Leutha)
> 
> 
>  > On 15 May 2015 at 16:18 Fæ  wrote:
>  >
>  >
>  > After having been discussed with many non-pub suggestions raised in
>  > the past few years, I'd really like to see this change. I hope the
>  > survey supports that viewpoint.
>  >
>  > People have many reasons for not wanting to meet in pubs, not just
>  > religious. I've been teetotal for the last 15 years, and after sadly
>  > supporting two relatives who eventually died from medical conditions
>  > made much worse by never giving up drinking alcohol, I really don't
>  > want to be part of encouraging others to have the same lifestyle. I
>  > have never liked being near people affected by booze, they spook me a
>  > little due to being unpredictable. I guess many who are not big butch
>  > men like me, find the environment intimidating even on a quiet day or
>  > in a quiet pub.
>  >
>  > Call closing time on this tradition, we know better.
>  >
>  > Fae
>  >
>  > On 15 May 2015 at 12:31, Gordon Joly  wrote:
>  > >
>  > >> Of course, it’s not mandatory to drink while in a pub. ;)
>  > >>
>  > >> Joe
>  > >>
>  > >> --
>  > >> *Joe Sutherland*
>  > >> http://jossu.co.uk
>  > >
>  > > Yes, but I had a birthday party in a pub and a Muslim friend refused to
>  > > join us.
>  > >
>  > > Gordo
>  > --
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On 2 June 2015 at 23:52, Richard Farmbrough  wrote:

> The other aspect that could be very useful is lift-sharing

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[Harry Burt]

On 2 Jun 2015 23:52, "Richard Farmbrough"  wrote:

> The big advantages of cafes and pubs is that people can come and go, can
> order food and drink if they wish, and don't look odd if the numbers are
> small or large.
>

Well put!


> The only cafe I know in Oxford is Greens which is next to the Bird and
> Baby in St Giles, is nice, if pricey, but has accessibility issues.
>

I think in the specific case of Oxford (and probably more generally) I am
pretty confident it would be possible to find a nice café (although not all
will have wheelchair access). Off the top of my head, the Turl Street
Kitchen is nice (if a bit trendy) and G&D's (St Aldates) would give the
meetup a different vibe. Participants would be under a bit more pressure to
order *something* (Wetherspoons being very lax about this) but in those two
cases I've never had trouble.


> Possibly university, community, religious or GLAM space might be used
> especially if an additional event was involved, but we would be very lucky
> to get such a venue on a recurring basis.
>

Certainly in Oxford it is generally pretty easy for a student to book a
room at her/his own college, and many are without cost, although they tend
to be more lecture theatres in setup than cafés!

Harry

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[Richard Farmbrough]

The big advantages of cafes and pubs is that people can come and go, can
order food and drink if they wish, and don't look odd if the numbers are
small or large.  Of course those of us who are driving  don't drink alcohol
at the pub meets, and I have never found this a problem.

We have occasionally built in other activities (blue plaque hunting in
Cambridge and monuments in London if I remember correctly).   The only cafe
I know in Oxford is Greens which is next to the Bird and Baby in St Giles,
is nice, if pricey, but has accessibility issues.

I have often thought an outside meet-up in the summer would be a good idea,
with an indoor option for the evening or in the event of rain.

Possibly university, community, religious or GLAM space might be used
especially if an additional event was involved, but we would be very lucky
to get such a venue on a recurring basis.

The other aspect that could be very useful is lift-sharing.  I know this
goes on to some extent, and I have given a few ad-hoc lifts myself, but it
could build numbers especially away from London.



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[rexx]

While agreeing with Harry about meeting the regulars, I would maintain that
much of the success of a meetup relies on someone who finds the time to
schedule the meetup on a regular basis: Charles in Cambridge; Bazonka in
the North-West; Redrose64 in Oxford. Once you've got a steady schedule,
then you can look at varying times, days, venues to see if more editors can
be attracted. I'll certainly discuss the ideas at the next meetups that I
get to.

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On 2 June 2015 at 19:48, HJ Mitchell  wrote:

> I quite like the Cambridge format of meeting in a cafe and later decamping
> to a pub (especially since the pub is between the cafe and the railway
> station!).
>
> Bear in mind, though, that meetups aren't necessarily just about meeting
> random Wikipedians - many regulars turn up month after month because they
> enjoy socialising with the other regulars (as well as new people). We want
> to attract new people without alienating the existing regulars.
>
> Harry Mitchell
> http://enwp.org/User:HJ
> Phone: +44 (0) 7507 536971
> Skype: harry_j_mitchell
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> *Sent:* Tuesday, 2 June 2015, 18:32
> *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimeet survey
>
>  Whilst I take Fae's point, I don't think we need to call closing time on
> meeting in pubs, but rather innovate other places to meet. And yes, this
> has been discussed for ages, but all it needs is for someone to find a
> venue and start organising a meet up, rather than talk about it.
>
>  all the best
>
>  Fabian (User:Leutha)
>
>
>
>
> > On 15 May 2015 at 16:18 Fæ  wrote:
> >
> >
> > After having been discussed with many non-pub suggestions raised in
> > the past few years, I'd really like to see this change. I hope the
> > survey supports that viewpoint.
> >
> > People have many reasons for not wanting to meet in pubs, not just
> > religious. I've been teetotal for the last 15 years, and after sadly
> > supporting two relatives who eventually died from medical conditions
> > made much worse by never giving up drinking alcohol, I really don't
> > want to be part of encouraging others to have the same lifestyle. I
> > have never liked being near people affected by booze, they spook me a
> > little due to being unpredictable. I guess many who are not big butch
> > men like me, find the environment intimidating even on a quiet day or
> > in a quiet pub.
> >
> > Call closing time on this tradition, we know better.
> >
> > Fae
> >
> > On 15 May 2015 at 12:31, Gordon Joly  wrote:
> > >
> > >> Of course, it’s not mandatory to drink while in a pub. ;)
> > >>
> > >> Joe
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> *Joe Sutherland*
> > >> http://jossu.co.uk
> > >
> > > Yes, but I had a birthday party in a pub and a Muslim friend refused
> to
> > > join us.
> > >
> > > Gordo
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[HJ Mitchell]

I quite like the Cambridge format of meeting in a cafe and later decamping to a 
pub (especially since the pub is between the cafe and the railway station!).
Bear in mind, though, that meetups aren't necessarily just about meeting random 
Wikipedians - many regulars turn up month after month because they enjoy 
socialising with the other regulars (as well as new people). We want to attract 
new people without alienating the existing regulars. Harry 
Mitchellhttp://enwp.org/User:HJ
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  From: "leu...@fabiant.eu" 
 To: UK Wikimedia mailing list  
 Sent: Tuesday, 2 June 2015, 18:32
 Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimeet survey
   
  Whilst I take Fae's point, I don't think we need to call closing time on 
meeting in pubs, but rather innovate other places to meet. And yes, this has 
been discussed for ages, but all it needs is for someone to find a venue and 
start organising a meet up, rather than talk about it.       all the best       
Fabian (User:Leutha)       


> On 15 May 2015 at 16:18 Fæ  wrote: 
> 
> 
> After having been discussed with many non-pub suggestions raised in 
> the past few years, I'd really like to see this change. I hope the 
> survey supports that viewpoint. 
> 
> People have many reasons for not wanting to meet in pubs, not just 
> religious. I've been teetotal for the last 15 years, and after sadly 
> supporting two relatives who eventually died from medical conditions 
> made much worse by never giving up drinking alcohol, I really don't 
> want to be part of encouraging others to have the same lifestyle. I 
> have never liked being near people affected by booze, they spook me a 
> little due to being unpredictable. I guess many who are not big butch 
> men like me, find the environment intimidating even on a quiet day or 
> in a quiet pub. 
> 
> Call closing time on this tradition, we know better. 
> 
> Fae 
> 
> On 15 May 2015 at 12:31, Gordon Joly  wrote: 
> > 
> >> Of course, it’s not mandatory to drink while in a pub. ;) 
> >> 
> >> Joe 
> >> 
> >> -- 
> >> *Joe Sutherland* 
> >> http://jossu.co.uk 
> > 
> > Yes, but I had a birthday party in a pub and a Muslim friend refused to 
> > join us. 
> > 
> > Gordo 
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[leu...@fabiant.eu]

Whilst I take Fae's point, I don't think we need to call closing time on meeting
in pubs, but rather innovate other places to meet. And yes, this has been
discussed for ages, but all it needs is for someone to find a venue and start
organising a meet up, rather than talk about it.

all the best

Fabian (User:Leutha)


> On 15 May 2015 at 16:18 Fæ  wrote:
>
>
> After having been discussed with many non-pub suggestions raised in
> the past few years, I'd really like to see this change. I hope the
> survey supports that viewpoint.
>
> People have many reasons for not wanting to meet in pubs, not just
> religious. I've been teetotal for the last 15 years, and after sadly
> supporting two relatives who eventually died from medical conditions
> made much worse by never giving up drinking alcohol, I really don't
> want to be part of encouraging others to have the same lifestyle. I
> have never liked being near people affected by booze, they spook me a
> little due to being unpredictable. I guess many who are not big butch
> men like me, find the environment intimidating even on a quiet day or
> in a quiet pub.
>
> Call closing time on this tradition, we know better.
>
> Fae
>
> On 15 May 2015 at 12:31, Gordon Joly  wrote:
> >
> >> Of course, it’s not mandatory to drink while in a pub. ;)
> >>
> >> Joe
> >>
> >> --
> >> *Joe Sutherland*
> >> http://jossu.co.uk
> >
> > Yes, but I had a birthday party in a pub and a Muslim friend refused to
> > join us.
> >
> > Gordo
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[Gordon Joly]

On 15/05/15 16:18, Fæ wrote:
> 
> People have many reasons for not wanting to meet in pubs, not just
> religious. I've been teetotal for the last 15 years

I strangely like daytime pub meets now, having stopped all alcohol 18
months ago. I never liked lunch time drinking. Now, I go to the pub at
lunch time without the temptation to drink, since... I don't drink.

I take your points. But many meetups do have booze. For example, the
"free beer and pizza" of the long gone "London Wiki Wednesdays".

London Wikimedia Meetup Number 94
Date and time: Sunday 14th June 2015 — 13:00 onwards

Nearly 100 meetings. A regular time slot (second Sunday of the month) is
a part of the success IMHO. Same idea for the London Unix User Group
(way back when).

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[Fæ]

After having been discussed with many non-pub suggestions raised in
the past few years, I'd really like to see this change. I hope the
survey supports that viewpoint.

People have many reasons for not wanting to meet in pubs, not just
religious. I've been teetotal for the last 15 years, and after sadly
supporting two relatives who eventually died from medical conditions
made much worse by never giving up drinking alcohol, I really don't
want to be part of encouraging others to have the same lifestyle. I
have never liked being near people affected by booze, they spook me a
little due to being unpredictable. I guess many who are not big butch
men like me, find the environment intimidating even on a quiet day or
in a quiet pub.

Call closing time on this tradition, we know better.

Fae

On 15 May 2015 at 12:31, Gordon Joly  wrote:
>
>> Of course, it’s not mandatory to drink while in a pub. ;)
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> --
>> *Joe Sutherland*
>> http://jossu.co.uk
>
> Yes, but I had a birthday party in a pub and a Muslim friend refused to
> join us.
>
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimeet survey

[Charles Matthews]

On 18 May 2015 at 09:46, D'Arcy Myers  wrote:

> Dear Mike
> I have compiled quite a number of surveys in my time and would be happy to
> go through the questions with you.
>
>
I had one comment, about audience(s). There are people who attend meetups,
and people who might. There are those who organise them, and again those
who might. Some division up of questions accordingly could be helpful.

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[D'Arcy Myers]

Dear Mike
I have compiled quite a number of surveys in my time and would be happy to
go through the questions with you.
Kind regards
D'Arcy

On 13 May 2015 at 22:13, Michael Peel  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
>tl;dr summary: I'm planning to run a survey about wikimeets in the near
> future. Do you have any comments/suggestions on the draft? See:
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mike_Peel/Wikimeet_survey
>
> At a recent meetup, a Wikipedian who was new to wikimeets pointed out that
> the event had the air of a gentleman's club about it. Looking around at the
> high-back comfy chairs, the Victorian-era interior decorations, the pints
> of real ale, and the mostly-male (and regular) attendees, I couldn't really
> disagree with their assessment. This started me thinking: are there better
> venues and times to hold meetups, or better ways of advertising/inviting
> people to planned meetups? What would make them more open and inviting to
> new editors, or the many long-term editors that have never attended a
> meetup?
>
> As an experiment to try to improve the attendance and advertising of
> wikimeets in the North of England, a few months ago I posted messages on
> the talk pages of previous wikimeet attendees about the last Leeds and
> Manchester wikimeets, and the Liverpool wikimeet coming up this weekend.
> There was, unexpectedly, a pretty good response, with a number of people
> signing up to attend the wikimeets. I'm not sure whether it was a direct
> consequence or not, but we had a long-term editor attend the last
> Manchester wikimeet who hadn't previously attended a wikimeet. I couldn't
> attend the last Leeds wikimeet: was anyone there and able to say whether it
> made a difference or not? I'm hoping that the irregular wikimeet attendees
> who have signed up for the Liverpool meetup will be there!
>
> It also started a longer conversation with Iridescent [1], which led to
> the idea of having some sort of a UK-wide notifications list. During that
> conversation, I started drafting a survey of past and potential wikimeet
> attendees with the aim of getting some quantified and actionable answers
> about how to improve wikimeets, and also improve communication about
> wikimeets. The latest draft of the survey is at:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mike_Peel/Wikimeet_survey
>
> Amongst other things, the survey draft asks about how people get to
> wikimeets; when and where wikimeets should be held; what activities should
> take place at wikimeets; and how notifications about an upcoming meetup
> would ideally be circulated.
>
> I'm hoping to run this survey soon, so if you are interested in improving
> the survey questions then please send me an email or post on the talk page
> before the end of the month! In particular, if you currently organise (or
> regularly attend) wikimeets, then I'd greatly appreciate your
> input/feedback about the survey questions before it goes live. Ideally the
> survey would be run in association with WMUK, but given the recent turmoil
> I'm not sure if this will be possible, so I'll run it myself unless WMUK
> expresses an interest in helping out with it!
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimeet survey

[Alison M. Wheeler]

- On 15 May, 2015, at 15:51, Chris McKenna cmcke...@sucs.org wrote:
> On Thu, 14 May 2015, Gordon Joly wrote:
> 
>> London Wikimeets date back to June 2004.
> 
> And if anyone wants to see some youger looking regulars, there are photos
> from early meets

Even _I_ looked younger eleven years ago ... :O


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[Chris McKenna]

On Thu, 14 May 2015, Gordon Joly wrote:



London Wikimeets date back to June 2004.


And if anyone wants to see some youger looking regulars, there are photos 
from early meets


1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/London_1
3: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Thryduulf/Wikimeets/London3


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[Pat Hadley]

Well the cafe does serve booze.

P

On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Gordon Joly  wrote:

>
> > Of course, it’s not mandatory to drink while in a pub. ;)
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > --
> > *Joe Sutherland*
> > http://jossu.co.uk
>
> Yes, but I had a birthday party in a pub and a Muslim friend refused to
> join us.
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[Gordon Joly]

> Of course, it’s not mandatory to drink while in a pub. ;)
> 
> Joe
> 
> -- 
> *Joe Sutherland*
> http://jossu.co.uk

Yes, but I had a birthday party in a pub and a Muslim friend refused to
join us.

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[Gordon Joly]

On 15/05/15 12:10, Pat Hadley wrote:
> 
> Great idea Mike! The Leeds wikimeet was pretty white and male apart from
> Katherine Bavage.


LOL.

Now, if you all watched W1A last night you know that the BBC has to
match the demographic (BAME, LGBTI) outside the BBC.

So, should wikimeeters not worry to much, since with a group men and one
women it might reflect the gender balance of editors?

Pub meets might not be attractive to those who do not drink, for
religious or other reasons.

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[Pat Hadley]

Hi,

Great idea Mike! The Leeds wikimeet was pretty white and male apart from
Katherine Bavage.

That was partly what prompted my suggestion that the forthcoming York meet
 be moved to a cafe rather
than a pub. I'm also hoping to get some uptake from the students at the York
Art History WikiClub which is just gettting off the ground
. This
will definitely change the dynamic!

It might be interesting to specifically target WikiMeet marketing at recent
edit-a-thon attendees (by email/social media?). Perhaps this would be a
small step toward helping editor retention?

Just a few thoughts,

P



On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Gordon Joly  wrote:

>
>
>
> I am sure that many of the regulars have talked about change. For
> example, Fabian Tompsett has suggested to me (and I have talked to
> others) about alternatives. Fabian's idea was to have an "East London"
> meeting, based perhaps in the "Idea Stores" (modern libraries in Tower
> Hamlets).
>
> London Wikimeets date back to June 2004.
>
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[Gordon Joly]

I am sure that many of the regulars have talked about change. For
example, Fabian Tompsett has suggested to me (and I have talked to
others) about alternatives. Fabian's idea was to have an "East London"
meeting, based perhaps in the "Idea Stores" (modern libraries in Tower
Hamlets).

London Wikimeets date back to June 2004.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimeet survey

[Michael Maggs]

Hi Mike

This sounds a very worthwhile exercise and subject to comments by D'Arcy 
and the staff team I think it's very likely that this could be done 
association with WMUK.  No doubt the bulk of the work in preparing the 
survey and analysing the results would be done by a group of volunteers, 
with you leading (volunteers in front, as it should be!).  Do you have 
an idea of what resources you'd like from the charity?  Perhaps WMUK 
could use its volunteer and member database to broaden the reach of the 
survey by distributing it by email?


Best regards

Michael


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Chair, Wikimedia UK


Michael Peel 
13 May 2015 22:13
Hi all,

tl;dr summary: I'm planning to run a survey about wikimeets in the 
near future. Do you have any comments/suggestions on the draft? See:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mike_Peel/Wikimeet_survey

At a recent meetup, a Wikipedian who was new to wikimeets pointed out 
that the event had the air of a gentleman's club about it. Looking 
around at the high-back comfy chairs, the Victorian-era interior 
decorations, the pints of real ale, and the mostly-male (and regular) 
attendees, I couldn't really disagree with their assessment. This 
started me thinking: are there better venues and times to hold 
meetups, or better ways of advertising/inviting people to planned 
meetups? What would make them more open and inviting to new editors, 
or the many long-term editors that have never attended a meetup?


As an experiment to try to improve the attendance and advertising of 
wikimeets in the North of England, a few months ago I posted messages 
on the talk pages of previous wikimeet attendees about the last Leeds 
and Manchester wikimeets, and the Liverpool wikimeet coming up this 
weekend. There was, unexpectedly, a pretty good response, with a 
number of people signing up to attend the wikimeets. I'm not sure 
whether it was a direct consequence or not, but we had a long-term 
editor attend the last Manchester wikimeet who hadn't previously 
attended a wikimeet. I couldn't attend the last Leeds wikimeet: was 
anyone there and able to say whether it made a difference or not? I'm 
hoping that the irregular wikimeet attendees who have signed up for 
the Liverpool meetup will be there!


It also started a longer conversation with Iridescent [1], which led 
to the idea of having some sort of a UK-wide notifications list. 
During that conversation, I started drafting a survey of past and 
potential wikimeet attendees with the aim of getting some quantified 
and actionable answers about how to improve wikimeets, and also 
improve communication about wikimeets. The latest draft of the survey 
is at:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mike_Peel/Wikimeet_survey

Amongst other things, the survey draft asks about how people get to 
wikimeets; when and where wikimeets should be held; what activities 
should take place at wikimeets; and how notifications about an 
upcoming meetup would ideally be circulated.


I'm hoping to run this survey soon, so if you are interested in 
improving the survey questions then please send me an email or post on 
the talk page before the end of the month! In particular, if you 
currently organise (or regularly attend) wikimeets, then I'd greatly 
appreciate your input/feedback about the survey questions before it 
goes live. Ideally the survey would be run in association with WMUK, 
but given the recent turmoil I'm not sure if this will be possible, so 
I'll run it myself unless WMUK expresses an interest in helping out 
with it!


Thanks,
Mike

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[Michael Peel]

Hi all,

   tl;dr summary: I'm planning to run a survey about wikimeets in the near 
future. Do you have any comments/suggestions on the draft? See:
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mike_Peel/Wikimeet_survey

At a recent meetup, a Wikipedian who was new to wikimeets pointed out that the 
event had the air of a gentleman's club about it. Looking around at the 
high-back comfy chairs, the Victorian-era interior decorations, the pints of 
real ale, and the mostly-male (and regular) attendees, I couldn't really 
disagree with their assessment. This started me thinking: are there better 
venues and times to hold meetups, or better ways of advertising/inviting people 
to planned meetups? What would make them more open and inviting to new editors, 
or the many long-term editors that have never attended a meetup?

As an experiment to try to improve the attendance and advertising of wikimeets 
in the North of England, a few months ago I posted messages on the talk pages 
of previous wikimeet attendees about the last Leeds and Manchester wikimeets, 
and the Liverpool wikimeet coming up this weekend. There was, unexpectedly, a 
pretty good response, with a number of people signing up to attend the 
wikimeets. I'm not sure whether it was a direct consequence or not, but we had 
a long-term editor attend the last Manchester wikimeet who hadn't previously 
attended a wikimeet. I couldn't attend the last Leeds wikimeet: was anyone 
there and able to say whether it made a difference or not? I'm hoping that the 
irregular wikimeet attendees who have signed up for the Liverpool meetup will 
be there!

It also started a longer conversation with Iridescent [1], which led to the 
idea of having some sort of a UK-wide notifications list. During that 
conversation, I started drafting a survey of past and potential wikimeet 
attendees with the aim of getting some quantified and actionable answers about 
how to improve wikimeets, and also improve communication about wikimeets. The 
latest draft of the survey is at:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mike_Peel/Wikimeet_survey

Amongst other things, the survey draft asks about how people get to wikimeets; 
when and where wikimeets should be held; what activities should take place at 
wikimeets; and how notifications about an upcoming meetup would ideally be 
circulated.

I'm hoping to run this survey soon, so if you are interested in improving the 
survey questions then please send me an email or post on the talk page before 
the end of the month! In particular, if you currently organise (or regularly 
attend) wikimeets, then I'd greatly appreciate your input/feedback about the 
survey questions before it goes live. Ideally the survey would be run in 
association with WMUK, but given the recent turmoil I'm not sure if this will 
be possible, so I'll run it myself unless WMUK expresses an interest in helping 
out with it!

Thanks,
Mike

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimeet in Edinburgh, 28 September

[Jon Davies]

You have to be prepared!

On 15 September 2014 16:12, Brian McNeil 
wrote:

> On 15.09.2014 12:00, Crockford, Ally wrote:
>
>> There will be a Wiki meetup taking place in Edinburgh on Sunday, 28
>> September from 1pm at The Brew Lab, 6-8 South College St. This will be
>> our 7th meetup in Edinburgh, and we very much hope that we will see
>> many faces both new and old!
>>
>> The Brew Lab is located on South College Street, just behind the
>> University of Edinburgh's Old College, and provides food, coffee, and
>> free WiFi. More details on the event, including directions and a map,
>> are available here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Edinburgh_7
>> [1]
>>
>> Please share widely with any Wikimedians in Scotland or near Edinburgh
>> who might be interested in joining us!
>>
>
>  [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Edinburgh_7
>>
>
> Have you pencilled in, "Begin planning for Wikimedia Scotland" on the
> agenda? ;-)
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimeet in Edinburgh, 28 September

[Brian McNeil]

On 15.09.2014 12:00, Crockford, Ally wrote:

There will be a Wiki meetup taking place in Edinburgh on Sunday, 28
September from 1pm at The Brew Lab, 6-8 South College St. This will 
be

our 7th meetup in Edinburgh, and we very much hope that we will see
many faces both new and old!

The Brew Lab is located on South College Street, just behind the
University of Edinburgh's Old College, and provides food, coffee, and
free WiFi. More details on the event, including directions and a map,
are available here: 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Edinburgh_7

[1]

Please share widely with any Wikimedians in Scotland or near 
Edinburgh

who might be interested in joining us!



[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Edinburgh_7


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[Wikimediauk-l] Wikimeet in Edinburgh, 28 September

[Crockford, Ally]

There will be a Wiki meetup taking place in Edinburgh on Sunday, 28 September 
from 1pm at The Brew Lab, 6-8 South College St. This will be our 7th meetup in 
Edinburgh, and we very much hope that we will see many faces both new and old!

The Brew Lab is located on South College Street, just behind the University of 
Edinburgh's Old College, and provides food, coffee, and free WiFi. More details 
on the event, including directions and a map, are available here: 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Edinburgh_7

Please share widely with any Wikimedians in Scotland or near Edinburgh who 
might be interested in joining us!

Cheers,
Ally



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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimeet in Edinburgh 27 October

[Jon Davies]

Fantastic!!!


On 17 September 2013 12:31, Crockford, Ally  wrote:

>  The next Wikimeet in Scotland will be taking place in Edinburgh on 27
> October at the Malt Shovel Inn. The Malt Shovel is a very short (i.e. 2-3
> minute) walk from Waverley station as we hope to encourage Wikimedians (and
> potential Wikimedians) to attend from outside of Edinburgh as well. This
> marks the fourth Edinburgh Wikimeet, and the first since 2011 (as far as I
> can tell, that is). It also follows off of two successful meetups in
> Glasgow. We very much hope to see many faces new and old!
>
>  Details are available on the events page
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Edinburgh_4
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[Wikimediauk-l] Wikimeet in Edinburgh 27 October

[Crockford, Ally]

The next Wikimeet in Scotland will be taking place in Edinburgh on 27 October 
at the Malt Shovel Inn. The Malt Shovel is a very short (i.e. 2-3 minute) walk 
from Waverley station as we hope to encourage Wikimedians (and potential 
Wikimedians) to attend from outside of Edinburgh as well. This marks the fourth 
Edinburgh Wikimeet, and the first since 2011 (as far as I can tell, that is). 
It also follows off of two successful meetups in Glasgow. We very much hope to 
see many faces new and old!

Details are available on the events page 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Edinburgh_4

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimeet 51 in London (13th November)

[Gordon Joly]

On 26/10/2011 22:13, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> Sue's attending lots of things:
>
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Sue_Gardner_November2011_Travel
>
So I see... I try not to stalk her.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimeet 51 in London (13th November)

[Richard Symonds]

Ditto myself and Panyd! 

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Great news.

I'll definitely be there.

Tom Morton

On 26 Oct 2011, at 22:08, Gordon Joly  wrote:

>
>
> It would appear that Sue Gardner will attend
>
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/London/51
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> Sue Gardner Wikimedia Foundation, Executive Director
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimeet 51 in London (13th November)

[Thomas Morton]

Great news.

I'll definitely be there.

Tom Morton

On 26 Oct 2011, at 22:08, Gordon Joly  wrote:

>
>
> It would appear that Sue Gardner will attend
>
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/London/51
>
> Sue Gardner Wikimedia Foundation, Executive Director
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimeet 51 in London (13th November)

[Thomas Dalton]

Sue's attending lots of things:

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Sue_Gardner_November2011_Travel

On 26 October 2011 22:07, Gordon Joly  wrote:
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>
> It would appear that Sue Gardner will attend
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> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/London/51
>
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[Wikimediauk-l] Wikimeet 51 in London (13th November)

[Gordon Joly]

It would appear that Sue Gardner will attend

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/London/51

Sue Gardner Wikimedia Foundation, Executive Director

Gordo

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