Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK Wiki

2019-03-05 Thread Lewis Cawte 
Is there an update on the wiki issues?

Is anyone able to provide a quick overview on hours/chapter funds
spent/billed on both the QRpedia and UK wiki issues?

I know first hand how time consuming hunting and fixing bugs can be, but,
it was mid-January when I and others offered support with the MediaWiki
issue. I find it hard to believe it's taking this long to track this down.

-- Lewis Cawte

On Tue, 5 Mar 2019, 09:16 Charles Matthews, 
wrote:

>
> > On 04 March 2019 at 20:41 Andy Mabbett 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 8 Feb 2019 at 12:28, Thomas Morton 
> wrote:
> >
> > > Jo and I are looking at this and trying to sort it out. Its taking a
> bit of time to fully
> > > debug and resolve this - but we are hopeful to share progress soon.
> >
> > Another month has passed; could we have an update, please?
>
> Looks like this request is a perennial. Having gone over the ground
> recently with the developer tasked with QRpedia, I'm able to give the
> following summary.
>
> (1) There is essentially no documentation.
> (2) There have been numerous patches in the past.
> (3) The code on GitHub is not the working code.
> (4) There was a holdup on an access, which has now been granted.
>
> The whole situation clearly must be rectified. Simply pushing for more of
> (2) is not the professional answer. (1) needs fixed. (3) needs fixed with a
> README.
>
> For more context: the way leading browsers operate has changed over time.
>
> HTH.
>
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK Wiki

2019-03-05 Thread Charles Matthews 

> On 04 March 2019 at 20:41 Andy Mabbett  wrote:
> 
> 
> On Fri, 8 Feb 2019 at 12:28, Thomas Morton  
> wrote:
> 
> > Jo and I are looking at this and trying to sort it out. Its taking a  bit 
> > of time to fully
> > debug and resolve this - but we are hopeful to share progress soon.
> 
> Another month has passed; could we have an update, please?

Looks like this request is a perennial. Having gone over the ground recently 
with the developer tasked with QRpedia, I'm able to give the following summary.

(1) There is essentially no documentation.
(2) There have been numerous patches in the past.
(3) The code on GitHub is not the working code.
(4) There was a holdup on an access, which has now been granted.

The whole situation clearly must be rectified. Simply pushing for more of (2) 
is not the professional answer. (1) needs fixed. (3) needs fixed with a README.

For more context: the way leading browsers operate has changed over time. 

HTH.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK Wiki

2019-03-04 Thread Andy Mabbett 
On Fri, 8 Feb 2019 at 12:28, Thomas Morton  wrote:

> Jo and I are looking at this and trying to sort it out. Its taking a  bit of 
> time to fully
> debug and resolve this - but we are hopeful to share progress soon.

Another month has passed; could we have an update, please?

A set of questions about issues with QRpedia has just been raised on
Facebook, in this thread in the "Wikipedia weekly" group:

   https://www.facebook.com/groups/wikipediaweekly/permalink/2053710054676815/

Can someone from Wikimedia UK respond there, too, please?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK Wiki

2019-02-08 Thread Lester Caine 

On 08/02/2019 13:14, Andy Mabbett wrote:

The bare "qrpedia.org" works fine too as it redirects to the https
version.

Not here; for me it resolves as http://qrpedia.org/  and times out.


With browsers now 'doing their own thing' in relation to sites that do 
not default to https these days it's a bit of a roll of the dice just 
what using the raw domain gets forwarded to from the sending end. At 
least the pigging annoying 'this site is not secure' messages have been 
curtailed somewhat but doesn't chrome now complain? I rolled back 
firefox until they 'repaired' that ... http is still perfectly 
acceptable for simple public information sites?


The bottom line is that the handing of the domain needs fixing so that 
http://qrpedia.org/ and probably http://www.qrpedia.org/ both forward to 
https://qrpedia.org/ to get around the various 'default' ways browsers 
handle 'qrpedia.org' ...


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK Wiki

2019-02-08 Thread Andy Mabbett 
On Fri, 8 Feb 2019 at 12:23, Delphine Dallison
 wrote:

> The bare "qrpedia.org" works fine too as it redirects to the https
> version.

Not here; for me it resolves as http://qrpedia.org/ and times out.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK Wiki

2019-02-08 Thread Thomas Morton 
Hi Andy (et al).

Jo and I are looking at this and trying to sort it out. Its taking a  bit
of time to fully debug and resolve this - but we are hopeful to share
progress soon.

Sorry that this issue is persisting; its obviously not a good situation and
we want to get it fixed.

Tom

On Fri, 8 Feb 2019, 12:12 Andy Mabbett  On Fri, 8 Feb 2019 at 11:56, Delphine Dallison
>  wrote:
>
> > I think someone pointed out the other day that it's only
> > when you use http://qrpedia.org/ that it has problems. If
> > people use https://qrpedia.org/, it seems to work fine.
>
> That is indeed the case; but the http:// version is supposed to work, too.
>
> > I haven't seen the tweet, but maybe you can let the
> > relevant people know?
>
> The http:// version and the bare "qrpedia.org" are linked to by many
> external websites; and are no doubt also in print sources. This
> affects more than just the one person who tweeted.
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On Fri, 8 Feb 2019, 12:12 Andy Mabbett  On Fri, 8 Feb 2019 at 11:56, Delphine Dallison
>  wrote:
>
> > I think someone pointed out the other day that it's only
> > when you use http://qrpedia.org/ that it has problems. If
> > people use https://qrpedia.org/, it seems to work fine.
>
> That is indeed the case; but the http:// version is supposed to work, too.
>
> > I haven't seen the tweet, but maybe you can let the
> > relevant people know?
>
> The http:// version and the bare "qrpedia.org" are linked to by many
> external websites; and are no doubt also in print sources. This
> affects more than just the one person who tweeted.
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK Wiki

2019-02-08 Thread Delphine Dallison 
The bare "qrpedia.org" works fine too as it redirects to the https version. I'm 
not sure what the solution is for the http version, other than redirecting 
people towards using https.

Best wishes,

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On Fri, 8 Feb 2019 at 11:56, Delphine Dallison 
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> I think someone pointed out the other day that it's only when you use 
> https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fqrpe
> dia.org%2Fdata=02%7C01%7Cd.dallison%40scottishlibraries.org%7C15f0d578f8544576d12b08d68dbeb69e%7C6414ad35a3824075ab2600ed2b7adb76%7C1%7C0%7C636852247581273168sdata=jLbZX%2BBD5HO24FMps%2BRzAQ3kSUKDZO7yEWQSggc%2BqiQ%3Dreserved=0
>  that it has problems. If people use 
> https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fqrpedia.org%2Fdata=02%7C01%7Cd.dallison%40scottishlibraries.org%7C15f0d578f8544576d12b08d68dbeb69e%7C6414ad35a3824075ab2600ed2b7adb76%7C1%7C0%7C636852247581273168sdata=yfhcOnDcFmTzcurGhcGkwuifqO6%2Bh0zoyAMvdAirwWo%3Dreserved=0,
>  it seems to work fine.

That is indeed the case; but the http:// version is supposed to work, too.

> I haven't seen the tweet, but maybe you can let the relevant people 
> know?

The http:// version and the bare "qrpedia.org" are linked to by many external 
websites; and are no doubt also in print sources. This affects more than just 
the one person who tweeted.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK Wiki

2019-02-08 Thread Andy Mabbett 
On Fri, 8 Feb 2019 at 11:56, Delphine Dallison
 wrote:

> I think someone pointed out the other day that it's only
> when you use http://qrpedia.org/ that it has problems. If
> people use https://qrpedia.org/, it seems to work fine.

That is indeed the case; but the http:// version is supposed to work, too.

> I haven't seen the tweet, but maybe you can let the
> relevant people know?

The http:// version and the bare "qrpedia.org" are linked to by many
external websites; and are no doubt also in print sources. This
affects more than just the one person who tweeted.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK Wiki

2019-02-08 Thread Delphine Dallison 
Hi Andy,

I think someone pointed out the other day that it's only when you use 
http://qrpedia.org/ that it has problems. If people use https://qrpedia.org/, 
it seems to work fine. I haven't seen the tweet, but maybe you can let the 
relevant people know?

Best wishes,

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Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK Wiki

On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 at 20:32, Andy Mabbett  wrote:

> I've just been told (in a tweet also addressed to Wikimedia UK) that
> https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fqrpedia.org%2Fdata=02%7C01%7Cd.dallison%40scottishlibraries.org%7C75f3f862fe84401edb6508d68db90e77%7C6414ad35a3824075ab2600ed2b7adb76%7C1%7C0%7C636852223279612618sdata=WNDkn8jlQrB6bq9fyHfS31T%2FasWn%2FT8cpVgIqnBFjno%3Dreserved=0
>  is down (i.e. timing out) again.

Still timing out.

This is a (supposedly) live, public-facing service.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK Wiki

2019-02-08 Thread Andy Mabbett 
On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 at 20:32, Andy Mabbett  wrote:

> I've just been told (in a tweet also addressed to Wikimedia UK) that
> http://qrpedia.org/ is down (i.e. timing out) again.

Still timing out.

This is a (supposedly) live, public-facing service.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK Wiki

2019-02-05 Thread Michael Peel 
It’s a http vs https configuration issue:
https://qrpedia.org  works
http://qrpedia.org  does not work.

Thanks,
Mike

> On 5 Feb 2019, at 09:56, John Lubbock  wrote:
> 
> Hi all, QRpedia seems to be working for me. The only problem appears to be a 
> problem recognising codes generated for articles with apostrophes in them.
> John Lubbock
> 
> Communications Coordinator
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> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 at 12:41, Lester Caine  > wrote:
> On 03/02/2019 20:32, Andy Mabbett wrote:
> > I've just been told (in a tweet also addressed to Wikimedia UK) that
> > http://qrpedia.org/   is down (i.e. timing out) again.
> 
> I'm seeing two A records for qrpedia.org  ... not even 
> sure if that 
> works? but they are both pointing to amazon ...
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK Wiki

2019-02-05 Thread John Lubbock 
Hi all, QRpedia seems to be working for me. The only problem appears to be
a problem recognising codes generated for articles with apostrophes in them.

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On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 at 12:41, Lester Caine  wrote:

> On 03/02/2019 20:32, Andy Mabbett wrote:
> > I've just been told (in a tweet also addressed to Wikimedia UK) that
> > http://qrpedia.org/  is down (i.e. timing out) again.
>
> I'm seeing two A records for qrpedia.org ... not even sure if that
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK Wiki

2019-02-04 Thread Lester Caine 

On 03/02/2019 20:32, Andy Mabbett wrote:

I've just been told (in a tweet also addressed to Wikimedia UK) that
http://qrpedia.org/  is down (i.e. timing out) again.


I'm seeing two A records for qrpedia.org ... not even sure if that 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK Wiki

2019-02-04 Thread Andy Mabbett 
On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 at 21:30, Thomas Morton  wrote:

> Have you got a link to the tweet; it seems to be working fine?

Still timing out for me, just now.

Tweet is:

   https://twitter.com/MonsieurBraun/status/1092043317725020161

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK Wiki

2019-02-03 Thread Lucy Crompton-Reid 
Hi Andy

Thanks for letting me know about Qrpedia - I'll make sure Davina and Tom
are aware.

Many thanks to those who came to the meeting last Wednesday. I've been
unwell since then and am unlikely to be in the office for the next few days
but will follow up as soon as I can.

Cheers
Lucy

On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 at 20:34, Andy Mabbett  wrote:

> On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 at 16:19, Lucy Crompton-Reid
>  wrote:
>
> > I would encourage you, if you can, to attend the meeting
> > on 30th January to help develop our next three year strategy
>
> Can we have an update on that, please?
>
> > Tom has ... been required to fix a number of other issues including
> > QRpedia (which still has some bugs)
>
> I've just been told (in a tweet also addressed to Wikimedia UK) that
> http://qrpedia.org/ is down (i.e. timing out) again.
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK Wiki

2019-02-03 Thread Thomas Morton 
Have you got a link to the tweet; it seems to be working fine?

Tom

On Sun, 3 Feb 2019, 20:33 Andy Mabbett  On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 at 16:19, Lucy Crompton-Reid
>  wrote:
>
> > I would encourage you, if you can, to attend the meeting
> > on 30th January to help develop our next three year strategy
>
> Can we have an update on that, please?
>
> > Tom has ... been required to fix a number of other issues including
> > QRpedia (which still has some bugs)
>
> I've just been told (in a tweet also addressed to Wikimedia UK) that
> http://qrpedia.org/ is down (i.e. timing out) again.
>
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK Wiki

2019-02-03 Thread Andy Mabbett 
On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 at 16:19, Lucy Crompton-Reid
 wrote:

> I would encourage you, if you can, to attend the meeting
> on 30th January to help develop our next three year strategy

Can we have an update on that, please?

> Tom has ... been required to fix a number of other issues including
> QRpedia (which still has some bugs)

I've just been told (in a tweet also addressed to Wikimedia UK) that
http://qrpedia.org/ is down (i.e. timing out) again.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK Wiki

2019-01-16 Thread John Lubbock 
Thanks Adam, I will let you know what we need help with.

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On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 at 12:32, Addshore  wrote:

> I am also out of the loop when it comes to the chapter but am a Wikimedia
> / Mediawiki / Wikidata developer & deployer.
> I'm sure I can be of help, although I will be away for a considerable
> amount of 2019.
>
> On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 at 10:18, Katie Crampton <
> katie.cramp...@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hi Lewis
>>
>> Thank you for volunteering your tech skills, I'm sure they'll be very
>> helpful. I'm not really involved in the tech side of things, but just
>> checked your membership and can say yes it has expired. Feel free to
>> contact me or members...@wikimedia.org.uk (which gets directed to me)
>> for any member related questions. Thought I'd let you, and anyone else on
>> this list who thinks their membership has expired, that you can sign up
>> again on this page .
>>
>> Many thanks
>>
>> Katie
>>
>> On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 at 19:00, Lewis Cawte 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'll guess I'll start this off then -
>>>
>>> I'm Lewis (and I go by Lcawte in most online spaces), I own
>>> ShoutWiki.com, which is a wiki farm powered by MediaWiki. I've been
>>> involved in the MediaWiki sphere on and off for a while, I have a few lines
>>> of really not very important code running in MediaWiki core, and some other
>>> bits in our closed source codebase. Seasoned members of the chapter/list
>>> may remember me from that slightly over budget "hackathon" I ran when I was
>>> a teenager in... 2011?
>>>
>>> I am (and where necessary, the small team I work with at ShoutWiki)
>>> happy to lend a hand with any MediaWiki related issues in whatever
>>> capacity. I can probably lend an ear to other chapter related tech things.
>>>
>>> I'm a bit out of the loop on chapter business - not even sure I've got a
>>> current membership - but feel free to drop me an email offlist if there's
>>> anything I can do to help!
>>>
>>> -- Lewis Cawte
>>>
>>> On Sat, 12 Jan 2019 at 16:46 Rex X  wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Lucy, for your positive response to the issues raised recently.

 On the technology front, I'm sure I'm not speaking out of turn when I
 say that I'd like to see something like the old Technology Committee
 revived to give volunteers a defined channel for communication with the
 Board and Staff, and also to encourage volunteers to give their time and
 expertise to help address technical issues and to expand our technical
 capacity in the future.

 To that end, I'd like to survey informally what skills participants on
 this list would be willing to bring to help WMUK's technology programme. It
 would be also very helpful if those who would be keen to help re-establish
 some sort of Tech Committee could express their interest.

 It doesn't matter whether you're just interested in tech or a seasoned
 developer - all offers are welcome. Any takers?

 --

 Doug


 On 11 January 2019 at 16:19 Lucy Crompton-Reid <
 lucy.crompton-r...@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:

 Hi all

 Thanks for your contributions and discussions on here this week. It's
 clear that as an organisation we need to reflect on how we're engaging with
 the volunteer community, and there has already been quite a lot of internal
 discussion about this over the past few months. I would encourage you, if
 you can, to attend the meeting on 30th January to help develop our next
 three year strategy; however please be assured that in the draft version
 I'm working on (based on the 2018 board away day, and to give us a starting
 point for discussions) there is a greater focus on both volunteers and
 technology, which of course underpin all of our activities.

 I'm sorry that the issue about recent changes and watchlists on the
 main Wiki has not yet been resolved. Our technical contractor has been
 working to debug this however he has not yet been successful and needs more
 time to try to ascertain and address the problem. Obviously if anyone has
 any practical suggestions of what the issue

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK Wiki

2019-01-15 Thread Addshore 
I am also out of the loop when it comes to the chapter but am a Wikimedia /
Mediawiki / Wikidata developer & deployer.
I'm sure I can be of help, although I will be away for a considerable
amount of 2019.

On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 at 10:18, Katie Crampton <
katie.cramp...@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:

> Hi Lewis
>
> Thank you for volunteering your tech skills, I'm sure they'll be very
> helpful. I'm not really involved in the tech side of things, but just
> checked your membership and can say yes it has expired. Feel free to
> contact me or members...@wikimedia.org.uk (which gets directed to me) for
> any member related questions. Thought I'd let you, and anyone else on this
> list who thinks their membership has expired, that you can sign up again on 
> this
> page .
>
> Many thanks
>
> Katie
>
> On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 at 19:00, Lewis Cawte 
> wrote:
>
>> I'll guess I'll start this off then -
>>
>> I'm Lewis (and I go by Lcawte in most online spaces), I own
>> ShoutWiki.com, which is a wiki farm powered by MediaWiki. I've been
>> involved in the MediaWiki sphere on and off for a while, I have a few lines
>> of really not very important code running in MediaWiki core, and some other
>> bits in our closed source codebase. Seasoned members of the chapter/list
>> may remember me from that slightly over budget "hackathon" I ran when I was
>> a teenager in... 2011?
>>
>> I am (and where necessary, the small team I work with at ShoutWiki) happy
>> to lend a hand with any MediaWiki related issues in whatever capacity. I
>> can probably lend an ear to other chapter related tech things.
>>
>> I'm a bit out of the loop on chapter business - not even sure I've got a
>> current membership - but feel free to drop me an email offlist if there's
>> anything I can do to help!
>>
>> -- Lewis Cawte
>>
>> On Sat, 12 Jan 2019 at 16:46 Rex X  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Lucy, for your positive response to the issues raised recently.
>>>
>>> On the technology front, I'm sure I'm not speaking out of turn when I
>>> say that I'd like to see something like the old Technology Committee
>>> revived to give volunteers a defined channel for communication with the
>>> Board and Staff, and also to encourage volunteers to give their time and
>>> expertise to help address technical issues and to expand our technical
>>> capacity in the future.
>>>
>>> To that end, I'd like to survey informally what skills participants on
>>> this list would be willing to bring to help WMUK's technology programme. It
>>> would be also very helpful if those who would be keen to help re-establish
>>> some sort of Tech Committee could express their interest.
>>>
>>> It doesn't matter whether you're just interested in tech or a seasoned
>>> developer - all offers are welcome. Any takers?
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Doug
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11 January 2019 at 16:19 Lucy Crompton-Reid <
>>> lucy.crompton-r...@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> Thanks for your contributions and discussions on here this week. It's
>>> clear that as an organisation we need to reflect on how we're engaging with
>>> the volunteer community, and there has already been quite a lot of internal
>>> discussion about this over the past few months. I would encourage you, if
>>> you can, to attend the meeting on 30th January to help develop our next
>>> three year strategy; however please be assured that in the draft version
>>> I'm working on (based on the 2018 board away day, and to give us a starting
>>> point for discussions) there is a greater focus on both volunteers and
>>> technology, which of course underpin all of our activities.
>>>
>>> I'm sorry that the issue about recent changes and watchlists on the main
>>> Wiki has not yet been resolved. Our technical contractor has been working
>>> to debug this however he has not yet been successful and needs more time to
>>> try to ascertain and address the problem. Obviously if anyone has any
>>> practical suggestions of what the issue might be and how it could be fixed
>>> then please feel free to get in touch :)
>>>
>>> As some of you know, Wikimedia UK has worked with the support of two
>>> technical contractors - both from the Wikimedia community - for a number of
>>> years, however one of them had to step away from the role in September and
>>> it has taken a little time to find a replacement (although we have now done
>>> so). This means that the remaining contractor (Tom Morton) has been working
>>> on his own, and we have needed to try to prioritise his workload. In the
>>> past few months we have undertaken quite a big, although not outwardly
>>> visible, technical project, which has been to migrate all of our websites
>>> to new host servers. In doing this, we needed to employ a specialist
>>> consultancy to upgrade and migrate the Wikimedia CiviCRM installation
>>> such that it could be moved onto the new hosting platform, which has been a
>>> high priority for us as CiviCRM is so central to our work

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK Wiki

2019-01-15 Thread Katie Crampton 
Hi Lewis

Thank you for volunteering your tech skills, I'm sure they'll be very
helpful. I'm not really involved in the tech side of things, but just
checked your membership and can say yes it has expired. Feel free to
contact me or members...@wikimedia.org.uk (which gets directed to me) for
any member related questions. Thought I'd let you, and anyone else on this
list who thinks their membership has expired, that you can sign up
again on this
page .

Many thanks

Katie

On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 at 19:00, Lewis Cawte  wrote:

> I'll guess I'll start this off then -
>
> I'm Lewis (and I go by Lcawte in most online spaces), I own ShoutWiki.com,
> which is a wiki farm powered by MediaWiki. I've been involved in the
> MediaWiki sphere on and off for a while, I have a few lines of really not
> very important code running in MediaWiki core, and some other bits in our
> closed source codebase. Seasoned members of the chapter/list may remember
> me from that slightly over budget "hackathon" I ran when I was a teenager
> in... 2011?
>
> I am (and where necessary, the small team I work with at ShoutWiki) happy
> to lend a hand with any MediaWiki related issues in whatever capacity. I
> can probably lend an ear to other chapter related tech things.
>
> I'm a bit out of the loop on chapter business - not even sure I've got a
> current membership - but feel free to drop me an email offlist if there's
> anything I can do to help!
>
> -- Lewis Cawte
>
> On Sat, 12 Jan 2019 at 16:46 Rex X  wrote:
>
>> Thanks Lucy, for your positive response to the issues raised recently.
>>
>> On the technology front, I'm sure I'm not speaking out of turn when I say
>> that I'd like to see something like the old Technology Committee revived to
>> give volunteers a defined channel for communication with the Board and
>> Staff, and also to encourage volunteers to give their time and expertise to
>> help address technical issues and to expand our technical capacity in the
>> future.
>>
>> To that end, I'd like to survey informally what skills participants on
>> this list would be willing to bring to help WMUK's technology programme. It
>> would be also very helpful if those who would be keen to help re-establish
>> some sort of Tech Committee could express their interest.
>>
>> It doesn't matter whether you're just interested in tech or a seasoned
>> developer - all offers are welcome. Any takers?
>>
>> --
>>
>> Doug
>>
>>
>> On 11 January 2019 at 16:19 Lucy Crompton-Reid <
>> lucy.crompton-r...@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all
>>
>> Thanks for your contributions and discussions on here this week. It's
>> clear that as an organisation we need to reflect on how we're engaging with
>> the volunteer community, and there has already been quite a lot of internal
>> discussion about this over the past few months. I would encourage you, if
>> you can, to attend the meeting on 30th January to help develop our next
>> three year strategy; however please be assured that in the draft version
>> I'm working on (based on the 2018 board away day, and to give us a starting
>> point for discussions) there is a greater focus on both volunteers and
>> technology, which of course underpin all of our activities.
>>
>> I'm sorry that the issue about recent changes and watchlists on the main
>> Wiki has not yet been resolved. Our technical contractor has been working
>> to debug this however he has not yet been successful and needs more time to
>> try to ascertain and address the problem. Obviously if anyone has any
>> practical suggestions of what the issue might be and how it could be fixed
>> then please feel free to get in touch :)
>>
>> As some of you know, Wikimedia UK has worked with the support of two
>> technical contractors - both from the Wikimedia community - for a number of
>> years, however one of them had to step away from the role in September and
>> it has taken a little time to find a replacement (although we have now done
>> so). This means that the remaining contractor (Tom Morton) has been working
>> on his own, and we have needed to try to prioritise his workload. In the
>> past few months we have undertaken quite a big, although not outwardly
>> visible, technical project, which has been to migrate all of our websites
>> to new host servers. In doing this, we needed to employ a specialist
>> consultancy to upgrade and migrate the Wikimedia CiviCRM installation
>> such that it could be moved onto the new hosting platform, which has been a
>> high priority for us as CiviCRM is so central to our work with volunteers,
>> members and donors on a day-to-day basis. Tom has worked with the
>> consultancy on this but has also been required to fix a number of other
>> issues including QRpedia (which still has some bugs), the Board Wiki, and
>> problems with MediaWiki and the visual editor. I'm not trying to excuse the
>> fact that there are still unresolved technical issues, just to put this
>> into context

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK Wiki

2019-01-14 Thread Lewis Cawte 
I'll guess I'll start this off then -

I'm Lewis (and I go by Lcawte in most online spaces), I own ShoutWiki.com,
which is a wiki farm powered by MediaWiki. I've been involved in the
MediaWiki sphere on and off for a while, I have a few lines of really not
very important code running in MediaWiki core, and some other bits in our
closed source codebase. Seasoned members of the chapter/list may remember
me from that slightly over budget "hackathon" I ran when I was a teenager
in... 2011?

I am (and where necessary, the small team I work with at ShoutWiki) happy
to lend a hand with any MediaWiki related issues in whatever capacity. I
can probably lend an ear to other chapter related tech things.

I'm a bit out of the loop on chapter business - not even sure I've got a
current membership - but feel free to drop me an email offlist if there's
anything I can do to help!

-- Lewis Cawte

On Sat, 12 Jan 2019 at 16:46 Rex X  wrote:

> Thanks Lucy, for your positive response to the issues raised recently.
>
> On the technology front, I'm sure I'm not speaking out of turn when I say
> that I'd like to see something like the old Technology Committee revived to
> give volunteers a defined channel for communication with the Board and
> Staff, and also to encourage volunteers to give their time and expertise to
> help address technical issues and to expand our technical capacity in the
> future.
>
> To that end, I'd like to survey informally what skills participants on
> this list would be willing to bring to help WMUK's technology programme. It
> would be also very helpful if those who would be keen to help re-establish
> some sort of Tech Committee could express their interest.
>
> It doesn't matter whether you're just interested in tech or a seasoned
> developer - all offers are welcome. Any takers?
>
> --
>
> Doug
>
>
> On 11 January 2019 at 16:19 Lucy Crompton-Reid <
> lucy.crompton-r...@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> Thanks for your contributions and discussions on here this week. It's
> clear that as an organisation we need to reflect on how we're engaging with
> the volunteer community, and there has already been quite a lot of internal
> discussion about this over the past few months. I would encourage you, if
> you can, to attend the meeting on 30th January to help develop our next
> three year strategy; however please be assured that in the draft version
> I'm working on (based on the 2018 board away day, and to give us a starting
> point for discussions) there is a greater focus on both volunteers and
> technology, which of course underpin all of our activities.
>
> I'm sorry that the issue about recent changes and watchlists on the main
> Wiki has not yet been resolved. Our technical contractor has been working
> to debug this however he has not yet been successful and needs more time to
> try to ascertain and address the problem. Obviously if anyone has any
> practical suggestions of what the issue might be and how it could be fixed
> then please feel free to get in touch :)
>
> As some of you know, Wikimedia UK has worked with the support of two
> technical contractors - both from the Wikimedia community - for a number of
> years, however one of them had to step away from the role in September and
> it has taken a little time to find a replacement (although we have now done
> so). This means that the remaining contractor (Tom Morton) has been working
> on his own, and we have needed to try to prioritise his workload. In the
> past few months we have undertaken quite a big, although not outwardly
> visible, technical project, which has been to migrate all of our websites
> to new host servers. In doing this, we needed to employ a specialist
> consultancy to upgrade and migrate the Wikimedia CiviCRM installation
> such that it could be moved onto the new hosting platform, which has been a
> high priority for us as CiviCRM is so central to our work with volunteers,
> members and donors on a day-to-day basis. Tom has worked with the
> consultancy on this but has also been required to fix a number of other
> issues including QRpedia (which still has some bugs), the Board Wiki, and
> problems with MediaWiki and the visual editor. I'm not trying to excuse the
> fact that there are still unresolved technical issues, just to put this
> into context and explain what else has been going on in the past month or
> so.
>
> Chris, you asked what concrete actions we are putting into place to ensure
> this doesn't happen again. These include the appointment of another
> technical contractor who will support Tom in resolving outstanding and
> urgent technical issues in the short term, but in the medium term will also
> work with us and the community to identify our priorities going forward. In
> the next few weeks, Davina and I are also meeting with several board
> members to scope out the charity's technical ambitions (which I hope we
> will also discuss on 30th), and in December I submitted a provisional
>

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK Wiki

2019-01-12 Thread Rex X 
Thanks Lucy, for your positive response to the issues raised recently.

On the technology front, I'm sure I'm not speaking out of turn when I say that 
I'd like to see something like the old Technology Committee revived to give 
volunteers a defined channel for communication with the Board and Staff, and 
also to encourage volunteers to give their time and expertise to help address 
technical issues and to expand our technical capacity in the future.

To that end, I'd like to survey informally what skills participants on this 
list would be willing to bring to help WMUK's technology programme. It would be 
also very helpful if those who would be keen to help re-establish some sort of 
Tech Committee could express their interest.

It doesn't matter whether you're just interested in tech or a seasoned 
developer - all offers are welcome. Any takers?

--

Doug


> On 11 January 2019 at 16:19 Lucy Crompton-Reid 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> 
> Thanks for your contributions and discussions on here this week. It's 
> clear that as an organisation we need to reflect on how we're engaging with 
> the volunteer community, and there has already been quite a lot of internal 
> discussion about this over the past few months. I would encourage you, if you 
> can, to attend the meeting on 30th January to help develop our next three 
> year strategy; however please be assured that in the draft version I'm 
> working on (based on the 2018 board away day, and to give us a starting point 
> for discussions) there is a greater focus on both volunteers and technology, 
> which of course underpin all of our activities. 
> 
> I'm sorry that the issue about recent changes and watchlists on the main 
> Wiki has not yet been resolved. Our technical contractor has been working to 
> debug this however he has not yet been successful and needs more time to try 
> to ascertain and address the problem. Obviously if anyone has any practical 
> suggestions of what the issue might be and how it could be fixed then please 
> feel free to get in touch :) 
> 
> As some of you know, Wikimedia UK has worked with the support of two 
> technical contractors - both from the Wikimedia community - for a number of 
> years, however one of them had to step away from the role in September and it 
> has taken a little time to find a replacement (although we have now done so). 
> This means that the remaining contractor (Tom Morton) has been working on his 
> own, and we have needed to try to prioritise his workload. In the past few 
> months we have undertaken quite a big, although not outwardly visible, 
> technical project, which has been to migrate all of our websites to new host 
> servers. In doing this, we needed to employ a specialist consultancy to 
> upgrade and migrate the Wikimedia CiviCRM installation such that it could be 
> moved onto the new hosting platform, which has been a high priority for us as 
> CiviCRM is so central to our work with volunteers, members and donors on a 
> day-to-day basis. Tom has worked with the consultancy on this but has also 
> been required to fix a number of other issues including QRpedia (which still 
> has some bugs), the Board Wiki, and problems with MediaWiki and the visual 
> editor. I'm not trying to excuse the fact that there are still unresolved 
> technical issues, just to put this into context and explain what else has 
> been going on in the past month or so.
> 
> Chris, you asked what concrete actions we are putting into place to 
> ensure this doesn't happen again. These include the appointment of another 
> technical contractor who will support Tom in resolving outstanding and urgent 
> technical issues in the short term, but in the medium term will also work 
> with us and the community to identify our priorities going forward. In the 
> next few weeks, Davina and I are also meeting with several board members to 
> scope out the charity's technical ambitions (which I hope we will also 
> discuss on 30th), and in December I submitted a provisional budget to the 
> board for 2019/20, with a view to presenting an updated budget at the March 
> meeting that supports these plans. There is more to do, of course, but 
> hopefully these things will all make a positive difference.
> 
> Thanks and best wishes
> Lucy
> 
> --
> Lucy Crompton-Reid
> Chief Executive
> Wikimedia UK
> +44 (0) 203 372 0762
> 
> Wikimedia UK is the national chapter for the global Wikimedia open 
> knowledge movement, and a registered charity. We rely on donations from 
> individuals to support our work to make knowledge open for all. Have you 
> considered supporting Wikimedia? https://donate.wikimedia.org.uk/
> 
> Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered 
> No. 6741827
> Registered Charity No.1144513
> Registered Office Ground Floor, Europoint, 5 - 11 Lavington Street, 
> London SE1 0NZ
> 
> The Wikimedia projects are run by the