Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK univeristies and open content

[geni]

On 14 June 2017 at 17:05,   wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> This reflects my experience with OTRS. I actually sent the exact wording to
> Chris Knight, so that was not the problem. Nothing happened for 6 weeks
> until I met someone on OTRS who very kindly did the job in about five
> minutes.
>
> How do we fix this?
>

With difficultly. There are currently 447 open emails in
permissions-commons and 1219 in permissions in general and they are
all very boring. At the same time the bits of info-en that I have
access to have 611 open emails which tend to be slightly more
interesting (although a lot of politics and notability). 447 at 5
minutes a time also amounts to ~37 hours work.

Realistically we may have to accept that permissions isn't really
something you can get volunteers to do on a large enough scale. Which
either means trying to get the WMF to do it or seeing if one of the
people we pay at WMUK has time to do it for UK based projects
(obviously this is slightly dependent on what the legal bods say).
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK univeristies and open content

[Andy Mabbett]

On 14 June 2017 at 19:32, Rex X  wrote:

> We should encourage more experienced editors to volunteer for OTRS.

We need to deal with the problems with OTRS first; I raised them (not
for the first time) here:


https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikimedia_Forum&oldid=16631455#Backlogging_in_OTRS

and the section was archived with no further posts to those in the
above version, despite the promise, made here:

   
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Matthewrbowker&oldid=778894407#OTRS

of a reply; and apparently nothing done to remedy them.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK univeristies and open content

[Rex X]

We should encourage more experienced editors to volunteer for OTRS. It's one of
those systems where it's often easy to sort out if you can actually speak to
somebody who can deal with it.

It's not what you know ...

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> On 14 June 2017 at 17:05 leu...@fabiant.eu wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> This reflects my experience with OTRS. I actually sent the exact wording to
> Chris Knight, so that was not the problem. Nothing happened for 6 weeks until
> I met someone on OTRS who very kindly did the job in about five minutes.
> 
> How do we fix this?
> 
> all the best,
> 
> Fabian
> 
> aka Leutha
> 
> 
> > 
> > On 07 June 2017 at 16:54 Sam Walton  wrote:
> > 
> > (In my capacity as a volunteer) I spoke to the University of Liverpool
> > Library/Archives and they were happy to release some images taken by the
> > university photographer of the Liverpool Overhead Railway under a CC
> > license. Unfortunately their OTRS email wasn't quite specific enough so
> > the
> > images were deleted and I never managed to get them to send another
> > email :(
> > 
> > Sam
> > 
> > On 7 June 2017 at 16:50, Andy Mabbett  wrote:
> > 
> > > > 
> > > I've been asked to provide examples of UK universities releasing
> > > media
> > > under open licence (as opposed to giving us their images of
> > > out-of-copyright works).
> > > 
> > > Do any spring to mind?
> > > 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK univeristies and open content

[leutha]

Hi all,This reflects my experience with OTRS. I actually sent the exact wording to Chris Knight, so that was not the problem. Nothing happened for 6 weeks until I met someone on OTRS who very kindly did the job in about five minutes.How do we fix this?all the best,Fabianaka LeuthaOn 07 June 2017 at 16:54 Sam Walton  wrote:(In my capacity as a volunteer) I spoke to the University of LiverpoolLibrary/Archives and they were happy to release some images taken by theuniversity photographer of the Liverpool Overhead Railway under a CClicense. Unfortunately their OTRS email wasn't quite specific enough so theimages were deleted and I never managed to get them to send another email :(SamOn 7 June 2017 at 16:50, Andy Mabbett  wrote:I've been asked to provide examples of UK universities releasing mediaunder open licence (as opposed to giving us their images ofout-of-copyright works).Do any spring to mind?--Andy Mabbett@pigsonthewinghttp://pigsonthewing.org.uk___Wikimedia UK mailing listwikimediau...@wikimedia.orghttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-lWMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk--Sam WaltonPartnerships CoordinatorThe Wikipedia Librarys...@wikipedialibrary.org / swal...@wikimedia.org___Wikimedia UK mailing listwikimediau...@wikimedia.orghttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-lWMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
 

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK univeristies and open content

[Andy Mabbett]

On 9 June 2017 at 13:00, CAMPBELL Lorna  wrote:

> The University of Edinburgh releases a lot of media material under open
> licence. Here’s a few sources

Thank you. That's a very commendable action on behalf of the
university, and a very helpful example.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK univeristies and open content

[CAMPBELL Lorna]

The University of Edinburgh releases a lot of media material under open 
licence. Here’s a few sources, Ewan may be able to suggest more.

Open.Ed open licenses educational resources including images, video and 3d 
models http://open.ed.ac.uk/about/
Centre for Research Collections on Flickr 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/crcedinburgh/
UoE Image Collections http://images.is.ed.ac.uk/
MediaHopper Creative Commons https://media.ed.ac.uk/category/Creative+Commons/ 


Resources are released under a range of open licences, but there’s quite a lot 
of CC BY stuff there.

Cheers,
Lorna



On 7 Jun 2017, at 17:34, Deryck Chan 
mailto:deryckc...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Cambridge University publishes most of their online content as CC-By-NC-ND. 
Well it's CC but whether it should be considered "open" is another debate.

I believe the choice of NC-ND is down to older academics' wish to pre-empt the 
debate on moral rights of derivative works by forbidding derivation under open 
copyright.

Deryck

On 7 Jun 2017 4:51 pm, "Andy Mabbett" 
mailto:a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk>> wrote:
I've been asked to provide examples of UK universities releasing media
under open licence (as opposed to giving us their images of
out-of-copyright works).

Do any spring to mind?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK univeristies and open content

[Deryck Chan]

Cambridge University publishes most of their online content as CC-By-NC-ND.
Well it's CC but whether it should be considered "open" is another debate.

I believe the choice of NC-ND is down to older academics' wish to pre-empt
the debate on moral rights of derivative works by forbidding derivation
under open copyright.

Deryck

On 7 Jun 2017 4:51 pm, "Andy Mabbett"  wrote:

> I've been asked to provide examples of UK universities releasing media
> under open licence (as opposed to giving us their images of
> out-of-copyright works).
>
> Do any spring to mind?
>
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK univeristies and open content

[Richard Nevell]

The University of Exeter's Flickr stream used to have some CC images (most
events from what I remember), but it looks like the licence has been
changed.

On 7 June 2017 at 16:50, Andy Mabbett  wrote:

> I've been asked to provide examples of UK universities releasing media
> under open licence (as opposed to giving us their images of
> out-of-copyright works).
>
> Do any spring to mind?
>
> --
> Andy Mabbett
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK univeristies and open content

[Lucy Crompton-Reid]

What a shame Sam!

I think Martin Poulter in particular would be a good person to respond to
on this, as might Ewan McAndrew.

Cheers
Lucy

On 7 June 2017 at 16:54, Sam Walton  wrote:

> (In my capacity as a volunteer) I spoke to the University of Liverpool
> Library/Archives and they were happy to release some images taken by the
> university photographer of the Liverpool Overhead Railway under a CC
> license. Unfortunately their OTRS email wasn't quite specific enough so the
> images were deleted and I never managed to get them to send another email :(
>
> Sam
>
> On 7 June 2017 at 16:50, Andy Mabbett  wrote:
>
>> I've been asked to provide examples of UK universities releasing media
>> under open licence (as opposed to giving us their images of
>> out-of-copyright works).
>>
>> Do any spring to mind?
>>
>> --
>> Andy Mabbett
>> @pigsonthewing
>> http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK univeristies and open content

[Sam Walton]

(In my capacity as a volunteer) I spoke to the University of Liverpool
Library/Archives and they were happy to release some images taken by the
university photographer of the Liverpool Overhead Railway under a CC
license. Unfortunately their OTRS email wasn't quite specific enough so the
images were deleted and I never managed to get them to send another email :(

Sam

On 7 June 2017 at 16:50, Andy Mabbett  wrote:

> I've been asked to provide examples of UK universities releasing media
> under open licence (as opposed to giving us their images of
> out-of-copyright works).
>
> Do any spring to mind?
>
> --
> Andy Mabbett
> @pigsonthewing
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