Re: [Wikisource-l] more to edition(s) <-> edition or translation of

[Nicolas VIGNERON]

2015-07-28 4:35 GMT+02:00 Nahum Wengrov :

> Wait a minute.
> If a work esists in, say, ru.wikisource,
> And then someone translates that work and posts his translation under a
> free license in he.wikisource,
> I am not to link the hebrew version to its source in ru.ws on wikidata,
> But to create a seperate wikidata entry for it?
> This makes zero sense to me, and we never did it this way on he.wikisource.
>
>
It's more complex than that.

Yes, you should make two entries on Wikidata (because there different data
for this two works).

But meanwhile, you can make a link between the two works on the Wikisources.

Cdlt, ~nicolas
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Re: [Wikisource-l] more to edition(s) <-> edition or translation of

[Nahum Wengrov]

Wait a minute.
If a work esists in, say, ru.wikisource,
And then someone translates that work and posts his translation under a
free license in he.wikisource,
I am not to link the hebrew version to its source in ru.ws on wikidata,
But to create a seperate wikidata entry for it?
This makes zero sense to me, and we never did it this way on he.wikisource.

On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 2:25 PM, billinghurst 
wrote:

>
> Thought that the pasted discussion from WD is of interest and adds to our
> recent discussion on interwikis/interlanguage links.
>
>
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#Wikidata_discourages_interwiki_links
>
> Wikidata discourages interwiki links
>
> Looking at Zhuangzi (Q1074987) 
> *Zhuanhgzi*, I see that this data item is only for the work as it exists
> in Chinese. The work as translated into English is a separate data item,
> and the French Wikisource translation is another data item.
>
> Effectively, this means that Wikidata discourages interwiki links to and
> between Wikisource projects, because they will never be part of the same
> data item. Further, anyone seeking a translation of a work into another
> language must first come to Wikidata and surf the links even to find out if
> translations of a work in another language exist on Wikisource; it is not
> possible to do that from any Wikisource directly.
>
> I thought the whole point of moving the links to Wikidata was to promote
> connections between projects, not to eliminate them. But perhaps I am
> wrong. --EncycloPetey  (
> talk ) 02:19, 26
> July 2015 (UTC)
> @EncycloPetey : There
> are other ways to create interwiki by the help of Wikidata. See s:sv:Bibeln
> 1917  where I have made
> some tests with the Bible (Q1845) .
> The interwiki is created by the help of a Lua-module that follows edition(s)
> (P747)  and edition or
> translation of (P629) . The
> big advantage is that it makes possible to create intewiki to more than one
> page in every project. For example, that page have 13 links to
> enwikisource. -- Innocent bystander
>  (talk
> ) 05:49, 26
> July 2015 (UTC) @Innocent bystander
> :This is very
> interesting, what template (and Lua-module) do you use ? it should be done
> for all wikisources, that often have a lot of translated texts :) --
> Hsarrazin  (talk
> ) 09:43, 26 July 2015
> (UTC) @Hsarrazin : It's 
> s:sv:Modul:Sandlåda/Innocent
> bystander
> 
> who today is included in s:sv:Mall:Titel
> , a template that can be
> found in almost every page on svsource. Observe that the module is not
> secured against loops in the P747/P629-hierarcy. It also needs support by
> the "interwiki-extra"-class in s:sv:MediaWiki:Common.js
> , otherwise you
> cannot have more than one interwiki in each page. -- Innocent bystander
>  (talk
> ) 10:11, 26
> July 2015 (UTC)BTW, another thing the code does: It makes it possible to
> have interwiki to the Text-namespaces in als/bar/frr/pflwikis. -- Innocent
> bystander  (talk
> ) 10:18, 26
> July 2015 (UTC)
>
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