Re: [Wikisource-l] Discourse for Wikisource mailing list

2016-01-20 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo) 

John Mark Vandenberg, 20/01/2016 01:57:

A raw dump (including all metadata) export functionality should be a
hard requirement for any software put into production in Wikimedia.


Indeed. We don't have enough information to make any decision or even 
start considering things yet.
I found my research: http://softwarerecs.stackexchange.com/a/25408/13986 
it's cc-by-sa, someone please merge the information into 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Internet_forum_software :)


Nemo

___
Wikisource-l mailing list
Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l

Re: [Wikisource-l] Discourse for Wikisource mailing list

2016-01-20 Thread Andrea Zanni 
If there is consensus, I can propose Wikisource-l for a test. Just tell me.

Aubrey

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:57 AM, John Mark Vandenberg 
wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 3:46 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo)
>  wrote:
> > I hate Discourse because it doesn't work without JavaScript. Every time I
> > end up on a discourse website I end up crying.
> >
> > Last time I checked, it also didn't have particularly good export
> features.
> > I thought I had added to
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Internet_forum_software but
> > seems not, maybe was another wiki.
>
> A raw dump (including all metadata) export functionality should be a
> hard requirement for any software put into production in Wikimedia.
>
> --
> John Vandenberg
>
> ___
> Wikisource-l mailing list
> Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
>
___
Wikisource-l mailing list
Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l

Re: [Wikisource-l] Discourse for Wikisource mailing list

2016-01-20 Thread Sam Wilson 


On 20/01/16 17:58, Andrea Zanni wrote:
If there is consensus, I can propose Wikisource-l for a test. Just 
tell me.




I'm supportive. Don't know if there's consensus yet. Nemo, have you had 
any experience using Discourse just via email? Would it work for you 
that way? (i.e. then doesn't involve any javascript).


I think I read somewhere recently that Mozilla or someone is supporting 
Discourse in improving the mail interface. is that true, anyone know?





On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:57 AM, John Mark Vandenberg 
> wrote:


On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 3:46 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo)
> wrote:
> I hate Discourse because it doesn't work without JavaScript.
Every time I
> end up on a discourse website I end up crying.
>
> Last time I checked, it also didn't have particularly good
export features.
> I thought I had added to
>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Internet_forum_software but
> seems not, maybe was another wiki.

A raw dump (including all metadata) export functionality should be a
hard requirement for any software put into production in Wikimedia.



I absolutely agree. One thing I'd note, too, is that (in my experience 
of managing a few over the years) Mailman is anything but easy to 
archive well (at least not without server access). I *think* Discourse 
has a sensible API, so at least theoretically one needn't leave the 
archiving up to the sysadmins.



___
Wikisource-l mailing list
Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l

Re: [Wikisource-l] Discourse for Wikisource mailing list

2016-01-20 Thread John Mark Vandenberg 
On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 3:24 AM, Andrea Zanni  wrote:
> Luis Villa, from WMF, asks if there is a list that wants to try Discourse:
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2016-January/081244.html
>
> Discourse is a (great) software for discussion, and it could be very useful
> for giving order to the many mailing lists that we have in the Wikimedia
> world.
> This list is active but not too much, so I'm asking you if we want to
> propose as guinea pigs :-)
>
> Many great open source projects use Discourse, so we are far from being
> pioneers, and from what I've seen we could really benefit from the many
> features the software has.
> Just look it yourselves:
> discourse.org

There is also an evaluation and discussion occurring at
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Discourse

-- 
John Vandenberg

___
Wikisource-l mailing list
Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l