Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikidata and mass import

[Sam Wilson]

On Thu, 4 Aug 2016, at 03:44 AM, Thomas Tanon wrote:
> > I wonder how the French Wikisource community solved it, for example.
> 
> The easy way to solve it is probably before importing data related to a
> Wikisource page check if an item already exists for this page (it's an
> easy API call). Even if this raw import would have not been done, we
> would have had to do it anyway, because of hand created items. Most bots
> are used to do that before doing any item creation.
> 

Yeah, this is very true. And not even just checking for the existence of
an Item, a bot will have to check each statement it adds too. There is
the matter of a reverse-check also, of making sure that everything that
*does* have an Item at WD is supposed to.

On a related note, does anyone know if this new Librarybase thing is
going to be help to Wikisources?
http://librarybase.wmflabs.org/wiki/Librarybase:Home
Certainly, where possible, items there should point to Wikisources! :-)
Which will be cool.

—Sam

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Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikidata and mass import

[Federico Leva (Nemo)]

Anika Born, 03/08/2016 21:05:

maybe there is a bigger problem with that user?


He just does a lot, let's not jump to conclusions.

Nemo

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Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikidata and mass import

[Thomas Tanon]

> I wonder how the French Wikisource community solved it, for example.

The easy way to solve it is probably before importing data related to a 
Wikisource page check if an item already exists for this page (it's an easy API 
call). Even if this raw import would have not been done, we would have had to 
do it anyway, because of hand created items. Most bots are used to do that 
before doing any item creation.

Cheers,

Thomas

> Le 3 août 2016 à 21:05, Anika Born  a écrit :
> 
> Hallo Andrea,
> 
> just saw https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:GZWDer#Wikispecies
> 
> maybe there is a bigger problem with that user?
> --> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Administrators%27_noticeboard
> 
> Anika
> 
> 
> 2016-08-03 12:11 GMT+02:00 Andrea Zanni :
> Hi everyone.
> 
> Thanks to Samwilson, we have know a pre-alpha tool that help us retrieve 
> metadata for books in Wikisource:
> https://tools.wmflabs.org/ws-search/?title=%25==it_format=table_index=na
> 
> it's in very early stage so please be kind and generous: (and also, if you 
> can, help :-)
> 
> The tool will hopefully help each community in deal with Wikidata import.
> 
> BUT:
> today a discovered, with a bit of horror, that more than one year ago a 
> "rogue" wikidata editor imported thousands of pages (without properties!) 
> from Wikisources without even noticing the communities...
> 
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:GZWDer#wikisource_mass_import
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:GZWDer#Stop_creating_items
> 
> I revived the last thread (second link) because I think this was not helpful 
> to us as communities. I don't think we can't fix it (there is also the chance 
> that he kind of helped us, if we now use the right tools): but, still, I 
> wanted to express my frustration in seeing this kind of action.
> 
> I wonder how the French Wikisource community solved it, for example.
> 
> Andrea
> 
> 
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[Wikisource-l] Wikidata and mass import

[Andrea Zanni]

Hi everyone.

Thanks to Samwilson, we have know a pre-alpha tool that help us retrieve
metadata for books in Wikisource:
https://tools.wmflabs.org/ws-search/?title=%25==it_format=table_index=na

it's in very early stage so please be kind and generous: (and also, if you
can, help :-)

The tool will hopefully help each community in deal with Wikidata import.

BUT:
today a discovered, with a bit of horror, that more than one year ago a
"rogue" wikidata editor imported thousands of pages (without properties!)
from Wikisources without even noticing the communities...

https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:GZWDer#wikisource_mass_import
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:GZWDer#Stop_creating_items

I revived the last thread (second link) because I think this was not
helpful to us as communities. I don't think we can't fix it (there is also
the chance that he kind of helped us, if we now use the right tools): but,
still, I wanted to express my frustration in seeing this kind of action.

I wonder how the French Wikisource community solved it, for example.

Andrea
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