Re: [Wikisource-l] The failure of the WScUg (Re: Scanner for you?)
Guys, Thanks for sharing your positive outlook with me! If nothing else the community has worked in an unexpected way. I was able to express my worries and concerns to all of you, and I was reasurred with potential event chains that are not as grim as I had envisioned at first. I feel grateful for your support. Specially to Aubrey, who heard me nagging about the world yesterday night instead of enjoying his pizza Margarita fully :) Please keep me posted about Wikicite. I am really looking forward to new ideas and approaches to all the big challenges that we are facing. If one thing we have Wikisourcerors in common is that we are big dreamers, and if we dream together I am sure we can reach even further. Cheers to big dreams! :) Micru On May 9, 2017 2:51 AM, "Sam Wilson" wrote: > I don't think the WSUG has failed! It's still a great focal point for > Wikisource discussions and activity. I talk about it whenever I can. > > I guess in some ways you're right though. For example, in the recent blog > post https://blog.wikimedia.org/2017/05/03/world-book-copyright-day/ > about how much "WIkipedia loves books" there was no mention of Wikisource. > So there's still a way to go in raising Wikisource to the level of general > consciousness (in people, I mean, not some self-aware book transcribing > AI). But slowly, we get somewhere. I keep having conversations with people > who haven't heard of Wikisource—but who now have, and who usually think it > sounds good. > > I'm happy to be slow and steady. I strive to one day over-take Project > Gutenberg! ;) > > > On Mon, 8 May 2017, at 03:13 PM, David Cuenca Tudela wrote: > > Hi all, > > I want to thank Carles for offering the scanner back to our community. In > the Wikisource Community User Group sometimes believed that by creating an > upper international organization, we would be able to affect the things > happening at the base of our movement and at the top. But that has proved > not to be true. > > The Wikisource Community User Group has failed to make a change in the > world, and it is a pity, because we all seemed to share an understanding > that our project would be very relevant for humanity. > > However, I have the strong feeling, and conviction that the approach we > followed so far was totally wrong. And I want to acknowledge that general > feeling. It is painful to accept, but to accept it will allow us to do > things better in the future by relying more on the knowledge accumulated by > chapters and thematic organizations about how to make things work. > > As a co-promoter (with Aubrey) of the WSCUg, I want to apologize for not > being able to see this potential failure before. I hope that we all can > agree that we are all humans and that we are allowed to make mistakes. Even > if they are big ones. The intention was good, the result not so good. > > Sorry about that. > > Thanks for believing in the international wikisource community, a bunch of > hyper-idealists following a crazy librarian's dream of a universal > knowledge library... Let's take this impact, but let's keep trying. Every > time with more force. I am totally convinced that together we can make it. > > Please, do provide input about how to reach our aspirations. > > Cheers, > Micru > > On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 8:32 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) > wrote: > > Thanks for this update on the DIY scanner projects. > > Carles Paredes Lanau, 07/05/2017 20:18: > > You can check the books scanned in the following link: > https://archive.org/details/bibliotecammb586 > > > Only one? Or do you mean all the 89 items inhttps://archive.org/details/ > bibliotecammb ? > > people from the museum weren't comfortable working with it, since it was > very different from the scanners they used in the past. > > > Interesting. Is there a description, even on the DIY scanner forums, of > what differences were most impactful for them? > > Nemo > > ___ > Wikisource-l mailing list > Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l > > > > > -- > Etiamsi omnes, ego non > *___* > Wikisource-l mailing list > Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l > > > > ___ > Wikisource-l mailing list > Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l > > ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
Re: [Wikisource-l] Scanner for you?
Wikimedia Australia (the western branch of it anyway) is about to start a three-month residency at the State Library of Western Australia, and we've got an office (which I'll be working from pretty much full time). If it's a success, perhaps in a few months' time I'd love to be able to put my hand up for WMAU to be custodians of a book scanner! But probably postage to Australia would be too much. :-) —Sam On Mon, 8 May 2017, at 02:18 AM, Carles Paredes Lanau wrote: > I'm writing to this list because we have got an scanner to share with > any European chapter interested in working with institutions or for > internal use of Wikimedia communities.> Amical Wikimedia purchased and > assembled The Archivist, DIY Book > Scanner (http://diybookscanner.org/archivist/) in March 2015. We > wanted to work with several partners from our GLAM network, to help > them to free resources and scan documents previously not avaliable for > general public. We began a pilot project in Maritime Museum of > Barcelona, a museum with whom we had already worked in the past and > with the proper mindset. We had a member from Amical working there as > professional librarian, too, so it was easier to implement the > project. We provided a volunteer to assist the museum in tech issues. > You can check the books scanned in the following link: > https://archive.org/details/bibliotecammb586. It was an interesting > project with relevant results. However, we decided to discontinue it > because it needed a close assistant we could no longer offer and > people from the museum weren't comfortable working with it, since it > was very different from the scanners they used in the past.> > That's why we want to offer the scanner to other Wikisource > communities or to some chapter with volunteers wanting to continue > digitalisation projects. If there's anyone interested in having a The > Archivist model, please answer back this mail so we can discuss how to > handle it.> > Thanks in advanced. > > Carles Paredes (KRLS) > Amical Wikimedia > > _ > Wikisource-l mailing list > Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
Re: [Wikisource-l] Scanner for you?
Hi Nicolas, That's a Hackerspace scanner (Carles seems to have The Archivist one, which has some differences). I'm part of the DIY Book Scanner project, so if you have any feedback over why the project didn't work, it would be more than interesting to hear it. Maybe you also want to check out the new software that has been released to control the cameras: https://github.com/Tenrec-Builders/pi-scan It works for more camertas than the Powershot IXUS160, it depends a lot of how the CHDK was build, but right now I know that there are some other projects that has tested the PiScan with other models of cameras and it works pretty well. Using PiScan in combination with the MarkersCrop: https://github.com/Tenrec-Builders/marker-crop makes a lot of the workflow easier. I'm also more than happy to provide some help on how to make a decent software workflow for the BS. I know this tends to be a major bottleneck (specially if you are using Linux and the library is used to work with Windows), but it can be sorted it out. Best, Scann 2017-05-08 9:50 GMT-03:00 Nicolas VIGNERON : > Hi, > > Thanks for the proposal but Wikimédia France already has one (is it the > same ? https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Book_scanners_ > of_Wikimedia_France ) that is not often used (indeed it needs some tech > skills and time). > > I don't recall if Wikimedia CH already has one or is currently > buying/building one (I know it was discuss). Yann: can you tell us? > > Cdlt, ~nicolas > > ___ > Wikisource-l mailing list > Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l > > ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
Re: [Wikisource-l] The failure of the WScUg (Re: Scanner for you?)
Hi David,
{{citation needed}} :P
More seriously, I don't think that the WScUg has really failed. Sure, it
runs slower right now and it can be improved but the group has accomplished
some pretty awesome things (especially the wikisource conference in Wien
which was awesome and resulted in the hiring of Sam Wilson by the WMF, etc.)
Maybe we can discuss this during the next monthly WScUg Google Hangout?
Cdlt, ~nicolas
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Scanner for you?
Hi, Thanks for the proposal but Wikimédia France already has one (is it the same ? https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Book_scanners_of_Wikimedia_France ) that is not often used (indeed it needs some tech skills and time). I don't recall if Wikimedia CH already has one or is currently buying/building one (I know it was discuss). Yann: can you tell us? Cdlt, ~nicolas ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
Re: [Wikisource-l] Scanner for you?
Wikimedia italia is interested :-) Il 07/mag/2017 20:18, "Carles Paredes Lanau" ha scritto: > I'm writing to this list because we have got an scanner to share with any > European chapter interested in working with institutions or for internal > use of Wikimedia communities. > > Amical Wikimedia purchased and assembled The Archivist, DIY Book Scanner ( > http://diybookscanner.org/archivist/) in March 2015. We wanted to work > with several partners from our GLAM network, to help them to free resources > and scan documents previously not avaliable for general public. We began a > pilot project in Maritime Museum of Barcelona, a museum with whom we had > already worked in the past and with the proper mindset. We had a member > from Amical working there as professional librarian, too, so it was easier > to implement the project. We provided a volunteer to assist the museum in > tech issues. You can check the books scanned in the following link: > https://archive.org/details/bibliotecammb586. It was an interesting > project with relevant results. However, we decided to discontinue it > because it needed a close assistant we could no longer offer and people > from the museum weren't comfortable working with it, since it was very > different from the scanners they used in the past. > > That's why we want to offer the scanner to other Wikisource communities or > to some chapter with volunteers wanting to continue digitalisation > projects. If there's anyone interested in having a The Archivist model, > please answer back this mail so we can discuss how to handle it. > > Thanks in advanced. > > Carles Paredes (KRLS) > Amical Wikimedia > > > ___ > Wikisource-l mailing list > Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l > > ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
