Re: [Wikisource-l] Visual Editor in Wikisource
Hi! I am trying to work on this, but I can't guarantee a speedy delivery due to academic constraints! Hopefully this works out. Cheers, Aarti ᐧ On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 2:15 AM, Thomas Tanon thoma...@hotmail.fr wrote: The things to do are: 1. To make VisualEditor support the separation of Page: pages in header/body/footer/level. I believe it is possible to implement it without having to do hard modifications in the VisualEditor. 2. Add support for Wikisource specific tags (section...). So I think it so it would be doable only by a skilled person, definitively not by a GSoC student. About the amount of work, I don't really know. Something around a month for an experienced developper would be my finger in the air estimation. Thomas Le 18 mars 2015 à 21:32, Andrea Zanni zanni.andre...@gmail.com a écrit : mmm. what kind of work? something doable only from a WMF developer, or even some external one? I mean, it is possible that via Google Summer of Code or Wikimedia Chapters we can find the money to pay one developer: it depends by the amount of work involved... Aubrey On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 9:07 PM, Thomas Tanon thoma...@hotmail.fr wrote: Hi! Yes it is possible but it would require some development work in order to make it compatible with Page: pages specific features. So don't expect a deployment in a foreseeable future unless we get a developper that would commit to work on it. Thomas Le 18 mars 2015 à 18:43, Andrea Zanni zanni.andre...@gmail.com a écrit : Hello my friends, does somebody know something about the Visual Editor in the Page: namespace in Wikisource? Is it possible? There is a date of deployment? Aubrey ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l -- Aarti K. Dwivedi ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
Re: [Wikisource-l] Visual Editor in Wikisource
I just started two days back after reading this list. :-) So, still in the nascent stage! Will keep you updated about progress On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 10:04 PM, Andrea Zanni zanni.andre...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, Aarti, thanks. Maybe it is important that you keep the dev community a bit up to date? Emmanuel links this ticket: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93525 Aubrey On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Aarti K. Dwivedi ellydwivedi2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! I am trying to work on this, but I can't guarantee a speedy delivery due to academic constraints! Hopefully this works out. Cheers, Aarti ᐧ On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 2:15 AM, Thomas Tanon thoma...@hotmail.fr wrote: The things to do are: 1. To make VisualEditor support the separation of Page: pages in header/body/footer/level. I believe it is possible to implement it without having to do hard modifications in the VisualEditor. 2. Add support for Wikisource specific tags (section...). So I think it so it would be doable only by a skilled person, definitively not by a GSoC student. About the amount of work, I don't really know. Something around a month for an experienced developper would be my finger in the air estimation. Thomas Le 18 mars 2015 à 21:32, Andrea Zanni zanni.andre...@gmail.com a écrit : mmm. what kind of work? something doable only from a WMF developer, or even some external one? I mean, it is possible that via Google Summer of Code or Wikimedia Chapters we can find the money to pay one developer: it depends by the amount of work involved... Aubrey On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 9:07 PM, Thomas Tanon thoma...@hotmail.fr wrote: Hi! Yes it is possible but it would require some development work in order to make it compatible with Page: pages specific features. So don't expect a deployment in a foreseeable future unless we get a developper that would commit to work on it. Thomas Le 18 mars 2015 à 18:43, Andrea Zanni zanni.andre...@gmail.com a écrit : Hello my friends, does somebody know something about the Visual Editor in the Page: namespace in Wikisource? Is it possible? There is a date of deployment? Aubrey ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l -- Aarti K. Dwivedi ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l -- Aarti K. Dwivedi ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource community meet-up at Wikimania 2014
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Google Code-In: Standardisation of templates.
Hey David, I think finding TEI equivalent of Wikisource templates is a great idea. I am willing to mentor but during the initial stages of the program my end-semester exams overlap with the program. Also, I haven't written any Lua modules for Wikisource before but I can manage that. Is anyone else interested in mentoring? Cheers, Aarti On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 2:13 PM, David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Aarti, I think it is a good idea to start with the Author template, maybe you could post it in the Mediawiki page for the Google Code-in? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Google_Code-In Another thing that also could be interesting is to find the equivalent of wikisource templates as TEI tags. Will you be mentoring? Cheers, David On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 10:04 PM, Aarti K. Dwivedi ellydwivedi2...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, Google Code-in starts on 18 November. It is aimed at pre-university students aged 13-17. You can find more information here[1]https://www.google-melange.com/gci/document/show/gci_program/google/gci2013/about_page. It is a contest and tasks are rated separately. Since, this would be the first time most of the contestants would be coding something in FOSS and would have relatively less expertise, the projects are supposed to small. I would be really glad if one of the contestants from Wikimedia, works on a Wikisource related task. This[2]https://wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Wikisource_common_template_set link mentions that there are some templates which are common to a few Wikisources, but have been developed independently. I understand that the reason is dependency on other templates, which follow different development routines. In my opinion, templates that serve the same purpose on various Wikisources can be just one module, instead of several implementations, as is the current situation. Although I am not aware of all the templates that are used on various Wikisources, I would suggest that a common template be used for displaying the author boxes on author pages. The design need not be the same but the backend can be shared. Challenges involved: 1. Deciding an optimal design of the template so that it works properly on all Wikisources/ 2. Making sure the new template does not break any template that was initially dependent on the author template. In my opinion, point 3 would be the most notorious of all the challenges to be handled. It would be great if someone from each Wikisource could tell how other templates are dependent on the author template. It might be a bit overwhelming for a newcomer, so I would prefer doing the standardisation of templates for the Wikisources, for which there are least dependencies on the author template I would like feedback from the community on the idea before I propose it on the code-in page[3]. [1] https://www.google-melange.com/gci/document/show/gci_program/google/gci2013/about_page [2] https://wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Wikisource_common_template_set [3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Annoying_little_bugs Thank You, Aarti ( Rtdwivedi ) ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l -- Etiamsi omnes, ego non ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l -- Aarti K. Dwivedi ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
[Wikisource-l] Google Code-In: Standardisation of templates.
Hello everyone, Google Code-in starts on 18 November. It is aimed at pre-university students aged 13-17. You can find more information here[1]https://www.google-melange.com/gci/document/show/gci_program/google/gci2013/about_page. It is a contest and tasks are rated separately. Since, this would be the first time most of the contestants would be coding something in FOSS and would have relatively less expertise, the projects are supposed to small. I would be really glad if one of the contestants from Wikimedia, works on a Wikisource related task. This[2]https://wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Wikisource_common_template_set link mentions that there are some templates which are common to a few Wikisources, but have been developed independently. I understand that the reason is dependency on other templates, which follow different development routines. In my opinion, templates that serve the same purpose on various Wikisources can be just one module, instead of several implementations, as is the current situation. Although I am not aware of all the templates that are used on various Wikisources, I would suggest that a common template be used for displaying the author boxes on author pages. The design need not be the same but the backend can be shared. Challenges involved: 1. Deciding an optimal design of the template so that it works properly on all Wikisources/ 2. Making sure the new template does not break any template that was initially dependent on the author template. In my opinion, point 3 would be the most notorious of all the challenges to be handled. It would be great if someone from each Wikisource could tell how other templates are dependent on the author template. It might be a bit overwhelming for a newcomer, so I would prefer doing the standardisation of templates for the Wikisources, for which there are least dependencies on the author template I would like feedback from the community on the idea before I propose it on the code-in page[3]. [1] https://www.google-melange.com/gci/document/show/gci_program/google/gci2013/about_page [2] https://wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Wikisource_common_template_set [3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Annoying_little_bugs Thank You, Aarti ( Rtdwivedi ) ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource Community user group
Hi everyone, Congratulations Aubrey! I am curious about the next steps. In the meantime, I would be happy to translate the Hindi surveys( if there were any :P ). Cheers, Aarti On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 12:54 AM, Thomas Tanon thoma...@hotmail.fr wrote: Hi! Congratulations Aubrey for having made this user group a reality. Wikisource Community User Group sounds good for me. I'll be happy help you for the survey results analysis. They interest me very much. Thomas Le 21 oct. 2013 à 11:57, Andrea Zanni zanni.andre...@gmail.com a écrit : Hello all, it's my pleasure to give you 2 good news. The first one is that our survey has reached more than 100 responses: we didn't expect this result, and I'm personally very happy about that. This means few things: * that you should check again that the survey has been wel promoted in your language Wikisource. You can use the sitenotice, the village pump, your facebook page, etc. We have just posted the link on the Wikisource Facebook page, and hopefully this will be reposted by the Wikipedia page in the afternoon (I asked Matthew Rioth to boost it a little). * that the more answers we eill havem, the better we will now about the international community. This is important, so we can decide where to go next, together. * that you will have to help us gathering and analyzing the results :-) I don't know 9 of the 11 languages used in the survey, so that can be a problem :-D The second good news is that our Wikisource UG has got accepted, with one condition: it's much better if we change our name. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikisource_User_Group#Name So, what about *Wikisource Community User Group*? What do you think of it? I really like that, so for me there are no issues. Tell us your opinion. If anybody is against it, we'll tell the AffCom that's OK and we'll proceed with the creation of the UG. Aubrey ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l -- Aarti K. Dwivedi ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource survey
Hi! I have translated the survey in Hindi. On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Andrea Zanni zanni.andre...@gmail.comwrote: Hi all. The survey has been translated already in Italian and French, and is being translated in Hindi. Is somebody else interested in translating it in another language? Do you have any more feedback? Otherwise, we'll launch it as soon as the last translations are completed. Aubrey On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 7:06 PM, Andrea Zanni zanni.andre...@gmail.comwrote: I will write you in private. For translating it, the best thing is to directly do that on the software. Is anyone else interested in doing so? As of now, we have French, Hindi and Italian volunteers. Aubrey On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 6:57 PM, Erasmo Barresi erasmo_barr...@live.itwrote: Aubrey, you might want to change Wikisource should accept user translations? to Should Wikisource accept user translations?. Everything else is good. Congratulations! I volunteer to translate it into Italian. Where can I write the translation? Erasmo ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l -- Aarti K. Dwivedi ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource survey
I am willing to translate into Hindi but I am not sure how many Hindi Wikisourceres are there. On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 6:23 PM, Andrea Zanni zanni.andre...@gmail.comwrote: Yes, it's possible. Is anyone else interested in translating it? Aubrey On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 2:40 PM, Thomas thoma...@hotmail.fr wrote: Hi! The survey looks good. I'm volunteer to translate it into to French if no one ants to do it. Is it possible to add a short introduction paragraph at the beginning of the survey that explains why it's important? Thanks, Thomas Le 6 oct. 2013 à 21:30, Andrea Zanni zanni.andre...@gmail.com a écrit : Dear all, this is the survey finally implemented on Qualtrics: https://wikimedia.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_6taoDVAWcg6vSIZ I'd like to receive the last round of feedbacks from you: you can actually do the survey, but keep in mind that if we edit it afterwards the results will be probably lost (as they get invalid if I edit the structure of the survey). So do at your own risk, you might need to do it again :-) At the moment, I think the survey will be just in English. It can be translated, but since the answers and feedbacks are coming to slowly, me and David can't really wait too much, as the deadline of our IEG is coming (end of October, but we asked for an extension). The issue is that we really want some results to write a final report which consider all the gathered data: in our opinion it would be much more effective. Our final report would ask the WMF and other Chapters or institutions to fund software development for Wikisource, and the survey is aimed, among other things, to decide *where* to direct those funds (if we will ever get those). But here's the deal: if you think the survey should be translated (that means that you like it, and you think it's a good opportunity for Wikisource community to reflect on itself), and volunteer for translating it in the next week, we could do that together. In our opinion, the survey itself could be linked from the sitenotice in every Wikisource, but that will be a decision of the community. We really hope you believe this is a great opportunity for everyone is interested in Wikisource's future. Aubrey ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l -- Aarti K. Dwivedi ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
Re: [Wikisource-l] RfC draft for the new Wikisource tools and future workflow
Hi, I would like to help with writing the message so that I become familiar with the community. I wouldn't be able to help with translation because my French is very basic and I don't know other mentioned languages. Thank You, Aarti --Rtdwivedi On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 9:07 PM, David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com wrote: I've been preparing a document that explains how the three GsoC-related projects will affect Wikisource and how book metadata could be connected with Wikidata https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Micru/Wikisource_across_projects All the tools are supposed to be opt-in, so no community will be forced to take any tool or way of working they don't want to. I would appreciate your feedback about the draft because we would like to send a message to the most active users in all wikisources and invite them to join this mailing list and the proposed Wikisource User Group [1] The tentative list that Andrea has been preparing is here. Please expand/reduce as you feel convenient. You know better who could be interested! https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_message_delivery/Targets/Wikisource_contributors Usually we would have preferred to use the Central Discussions pages only, but experience shows that this messages tend to be ignored, maybe there are too many of them. Since in this case the changes/improvements are quite big, we believe that it is important to reach out to as many users as possible to give them the opportunity to participate in the discussions and voice their opinion. Would be anyone available to help to write the invitation or translate it into other languages? Cheers David ---Micru [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikisource_User_Group ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l -- Aarti K. Dwivedi ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
Re: [Wikisource-l] About texts without supporting files and Index: pages
If I am not wrong, as of today, most books that were born digital, are
still under copyright. Of course, they are available freely on the
internet. But we can't use the pirated copies. How would we go about the
procurement of these books?
If we procure these copyrighted books, then the only we would have to do is
to check for proper formatting. Isn't it?
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 7:58 PM, Lars Aronsson l...@aronsson.se wrote:
On 06/12/2013 02:48 PM, Andrea Zanni wrote:
We could define some tasks as
* corrected the page
* OPTIONAL added optional templates/links/annotations
*...
Geotagged all the photos, ...
The list doesn't end. You need a generic mechanism
for any new feature you can invent. But aren't our
existing templates and categories the best way to
do this? You could just add to each page:
{{done|proofread=user1|**validated=user2|geotagged=**user4|...}}
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