Re: [Wikisource-l] Djvulibre routines into Labs

2013-11-29 Thread Thomas Tanon
There are already a lot of data in the img_metadata field of the image table. I 
hope all data you are looking for are in it.

Thomas

Le 28 nov. 2013 à 23:57, Alex Brollo alex.bro...@gmail.com a écrit :

 I feel uncomfortable thinking to upload large files just to use a little bit 
 of data... I presume that djvu are saved as bundled files, have you any new 
 about saving them as indirect files, t.i. as single pages + an index file 
 and some rather small pieces? Who could give me some detail about djvu files 
 storage, and about projects to develop their management?
 
 I opened a bold bug in Bugzilla asking for some API actions bridging API 
 and  djvulibre routines; who is in your opinion an API developer which could 
 be interested about such a rough  idea? 
 
 Alex
 
 
 2013/11/28 Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com
 Alex Brollo, 28/11/2013 20:36:
 
 I'll try to test some routines to manage both image and text layers of
 our itsource djvu files. My question: have I to upload them from
 Commons, or there's the possibility to access to them/to a copy of them
 into some folder of Labs without any need of uploading (painfully) a copy?
 
 No, labs doesn't have media. Only XML dumps and pageview stats. Download from 
 upload.wikimedia.org is supposed to be rather fast though.
 
 
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Djvulibre routines into Labs

2013-11-29 Thread Alex Brollo
Thanks Thomas, but I'm looking for something much subtler: I look for
mapped text of OCR with any possible detail - t.i. I need at least the
output of djvutxt, djvudump, djvused - and obviously of a copy of djvu
file.

Presently I can't follow the wikidata adventure nor the metadata flow - I
focus my interest on tools to help user while editing/formatting text of
pages.

Alex


2013/11/29 Thomas Tanon thoma...@hotmail.fr

 There are already a lot of data in the img_metadata field of the image
 table. I hope all data you are looking for are in it.

 Thomas

 Le 28 nov. 2013 à 23:57, Alex Brollo alex.bro...@gmail.com a écrit :

 I feel uncomfortable thinking to upload large files just to use a little
 bit of data... I presume that djvu are saved as bundled files, have you
 any new about saving them as indirect files, t.i. as single pages + an
 index file and some rather small pieces? Who could give me some detail
 about djvu files storage, and about projects to develop their management?

 I opened a bold bug in Bugzilla asking for some API actions bridging API
 and  djvulibre routines; who is in your opinion an API developer which
 could be interested about such a rough  idea?

 Alex


 2013/11/28 Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com

 Alex Brollo, 28/11/2013 20:36:

  I'll try to test some routines to manage both image and text layers of
 our itsource djvu files. My question: have I to upload them from
 Commons, or there's the possibility to access to them/to a copy of them
 into some folder of Labs without any need of uploading (painfully) a
 copy?


 No, labs doesn't have media. Only XML dumps and pageview stats. Download
 from upload.wikimedia.org is supposed to be rather fast though.


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Re: [Wikisource-l] Djvulibre routines into Labs

2013-11-29 Thread Thomas Tanon
For these use cases I think that download the file is the best way to do it. 
It’s very quick because the connection between labs and the other Wikimedia 
clusters is very good.

Thomas

Le 29 nov. 2013 à 18:25, Alex Brollo alex.bro...@gmail.com a écrit :

 Thanks Thomas, but I'm looking for something much subtler: I look for mapped 
 text of OCR with any possible detail - t.i. I need at least the output of 
 djvutxt, djvudump, djvused - and obviously of a copy of djvu file. 
 
 Presently I can't follow the wikidata adventure nor the metadata flow - I 
 focus my interest on tools to help user while editing/formatting text of 
 pages. 
 
 Alex
 
 
 2013/11/29 Thomas Tanon thoma...@hotmail.fr
 There are already a lot of data in the img_metadata field of the image table. 
 I hope all data you are looking for are in it.
 
 Thomas
 
 Le 28 nov. 2013 à 23:57, Alex Brollo alex.bro...@gmail.com a écrit :
 
 I feel uncomfortable thinking to upload large files just to use a little bit 
 of data... I presume that djvu are saved as bundled files, have you any 
 new about saving them as indirect files, t.i. as single pages + an index 
 file and some rather small pieces? Who could give me some detail about djvu 
 files storage, and about projects to develop their management?
 
 I opened a bold bug in Bugzilla asking for some API actions bridging API 
 and  djvulibre routines; who is in your opinion an API developer which could 
 be interested about such a rough  idea? 
 
 Alex
 
 
 2013/11/28 Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com
 Alex Brollo, 28/11/2013 20:36:
 
 I'll try to test some routines to manage both image and text layers of
 our itsource djvu files. My question: have I to upload them from
 Commons, or there's the possibility to access to them/to a copy of them
 into some folder of Labs without any need of uploading (painfully) a copy?
 
 No, labs doesn't have media. Only XML dumps and pageview stats. Download 
 from upload.wikimedia.org is supposed to be rather fast though.
 
 
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Djvulibre routines into Labs

2013-11-29 Thread Alex Brollo
OK, I'll do. I hate to move many Mby around the web without a real and
strong need but I hope to build some tools to help users while
contributing, and this, IMHO, is one from the best justifications to use
band and servers time.

Alex




2013/11/29 Thomas Tanon thoma...@hotmail.fr

 For these use cases I think that download the file is the best way to do
 it. It’s very quick because the connection between labs and the other
 Wikimedia clusters is very good.

 Thomas

 Le 29 nov. 2013 à 18:25, Alex Brollo alex.bro...@gmail.com a écrit :

 Thanks Thomas, but I'm looking for something much subtler: I look for
 mapped text of OCR with any possible detail - t.i. I need at least the
 output of djvutxt, djvudump, djvused - and obviously of a copy of djvu
 file.

 Presently I can't follow the wikidata adventure nor the metadata flow - I
 focus my interest on tools to help user while editing/formatting text of
 pages.

 Alex


 2013/11/29 Thomas Tanon thoma...@hotmail.fr

 There are already a lot of data in the img_metadata field of the image
 table. I hope all data you are looking for are in it.

 Thomas

 Le 28 nov. 2013 à 23:57, Alex Brollo alex.bro...@gmail.com a écrit :

 I feel uncomfortable thinking to upload large files just to use a little
 bit of data... I presume that djvu are saved as bundled files, have you
 any new about saving them as indirect files, t.i. as single pages + an
 index file and some rather small pieces? Who could give me some detail
 about djvu files storage, and about projects to develop their management?

 I opened a bold bug in Bugzilla asking for some API actions bridging
 API and  djvulibre routines; who is in your opinion an API developer which
 could be interested about such a rough  idea?

 Alex


 2013/11/28 Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com

 Alex Brollo, 28/11/2013 20:36:

  I'll try to test some routines to manage both image and text layers of
 our itsource djvu files. My question: have I to upload them from
 Commons, or there's the possibility to access to them/to a copy of them
 into some folder of Labs without any need of uploading (painfully) a
 copy?


 No, labs doesn't have media. Only XML dumps and pageview stats. Download
 from upload.wikimedia.org is supposed to be rather fast though.


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[Wikisource-l] Djvulibre routines into Labs

2013-11-28 Thread Alex Brollo
I (painfully) opened a bug into Bugzilla asking for djvulibre binaries
installation into Labs. Any new about? Were they already installed and I
asked unusefully? Are they - as I presume - a necessary tool for
wikisource?

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Re: [Wikisource-l] Djvulibre routines into Labs

2013-11-28 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)

Alex Brollo, 28/11/2013 11:38:

I (painfully) opened a bug into Bugzilla asking for djvulibre binaries
installation into Labs. Any new about? Were they already installed and I
asked unusefully? Are they - as I presume - a necessary tool for
wikisource?


What's mising? https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56972 is 
marked FIXED, please add there if you need something more.


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Re: [Wikisource-l] Djvulibre routines into Labs

2013-11-28 Thread Alex Brollo
I feel uncomfortable thinking to upload large files just to use a little
bit of data... I presume that djvu are saved as bundled files, have you
any new about saving them as indirect files, t.i. as single pages + an
index file and some rather small pieces? Who could give me some detail
about djvu files storage, and about projects to develop their management?

I opened a bold bug in Bugzilla asking for some API actions bridging API
and  djvulibre routines; who is in your opinion an API developer which
could be interested about such a rough  idea?

Alex


2013/11/28 Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com

 Alex Brollo, 28/11/2013 20:36:

  I'll try to test some routines to manage both image and text layers of
 our itsource djvu files. My question: have I to upload them from
 Commons, or there's the possibility to access to them/to a copy of them
 into some folder of Labs without any need of uploading (painfully) a copy?


 No, labs doesn't have media. Only XML dumps and pageview stats. Download
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