Re: [Wikisource-l] Djvulibre routines into Labs

2013-11-28 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)

Alex Brollo, 28/11/2013 11:38:

I (painfully) opened a bug into Bugzilla asking for djvulibre binaries
installation into Labs. Any new about? Were they already installed and I
asked unusefully? Are they - as I presume - a necessary tool for
wikisource?


What's mising? https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56972 is 
marked FIXED, please add there if you need something more.


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Re: [Wikisource-l] Djvulibre routines into Labs

2013-11-28 Thread Alex Brollo
I'll try and see, thanks Nemo; I apologyze if I sent a unuseful alarm. I
hate GIT, BugZilla, the new settings of piwikipedia/pywikibot and the whole
stuff of recent changes. I hope in a KISS "revolution" into these
procedures as soon as possible.

Alex


2013/11/28 Federico Leva (Nemo) 

> Alex Brollo, 28/11/2013 11:38:
>
>  I (painfully) opened a bug into Bugzilla asking for djvulibre binaries
>> installation into Labs. Any new about? Were they already installed and I
>> asked unusefully? Are they - as I presume - a necessary tool for
>> wikisource?
>>
>
> What's mising? https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56972 is
> marked FIXED, please add there if you need something more.
>
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Djvulibre routines into Labs

2013-11-28 Thread Alex Brollo
Yes, djvulibre is running into Labs! I apologyze again for false alarm. But
I'd like to tale this opportunity to ask you about something related to
djvu file management.

I'll try to test some routines to manage both image and text layers of our
itsource djvu files. My question: have I to upload them from Commons, or
there's the possibility to access to them/to a copy of them into some
folder of Labs without any need of uploading (painfully) a copy?

Alex


2013/11/28 Alex Brollo 

> I'll try and see, thanks Nemo; I apologyze if I sent a unuseful alarm. I
> hate GIT, BugZilla, the new settings of piwikipedia/pywikibot and the whole
> stuff of recent changes. I hope in a KISS "revolution" into these
> procedures as soon as possible.
>
> Alex
>
>
> 2013/11/28 Federico Leva (Nemo) 
>
> Alex Brollo, 28/11/2013 11:38:
>>
>>  I (painfully) opened a bug into Bugzilla asking for djvulibre binaries
>>> installation into Labs. Any new about? Were they already installed and I
>>> asked unusefully? Are they - as I presume - a necessary tool for
>>> wikisource?
>>>
>>
>> What's mising? https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56972 is
>> marked FIXED, please add there if you need something more.
>>
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Djvulibre routines into Labs

2013-11-28 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)

Alex Brollo, 28/11/2013 20:36:

I'll try to test some routines to manage both image and text layers of
our itsource djvu files. My question: have I to upload them from
Commons, or there's the possibility to access to them/to a copy of them
into some folder of Labs without any need of uploading (painfully) a copy?


No, labs doesn't have media. Only XML dumps and pageview stats. Download 
from upload.wikimedia.org is supposed to be rather fast though.


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Re: [Wikisource-l] Djvulibre routines into Labs

2013-11-28 Thread Alex Brollo
I feel uncomfortable thinking to upload large files just to use a little
bit of data... I presume that djvu are saved as "bundled" files, have you
any new about saving them as "indirect" files, t.i. as single pages + an
index file and some rather small pieces? Who could give me some detail
about djvu files storage, and about projects to develop their management?

I opened a "bold bug" in Bugzilla asking for some API actions bridging API
and  djvulibre routines; who is in your opinion an API developer which
could be interested about such a rough  idea?

Alex


2013/11/28 Federico Leva (Nemo) 

> Alex Brollo, 28/11/2013 20:36:
>
>  I'll try to test some routines to manage both image and text layers of
>> our itsource djvu files. My question: have I to upload them from
>> Commons, or there's the possibility to access to them/to a copy of them
>> into some folder of Labs without any need of uploading (painfully) a copy?
>>
>
> No, labs doesn't have media. Only XML dumps and pageview stats. Download
> from upload.wikimedia.org is supposed to be rather fast though.
>
>
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Djvulibre routines into Labs

2013-11-29 Thread Thomas Tanon
There are already a lot of data in the img_metadata field of the image table. I 
hope all data you are looking for are in it.

Thomas

Le 28 nov. 2013 à 23:57, Alex Brollo  a écrit :

> I feel uncomfortable thinking to upload large files just to use a little bit 
> of data... I presume that djvu are saved as "bundled" files, have you any new 
> about saving them as "indirect" files, t.i. as single pages + an index file 
> and some rather small pieces? Who could give me some detail about djvu files 
> storage, and about projects to develop their management?
> 
> I opened a "bold bug" in Bugzilla asking for some API actions bridging API 
> and  djvulibre routines; who is in your opinion an API developer which could 
> be interested about such a rough  idea? 
> 
> Alex
> 
> 
> 2013/11/28 Federico Leva (Nemo) 
> Alex Brollo, 28/11/2013 20:36:
> 
> I'll try to test some routines to manage both image and text layers of
> our itsource djvu files. My question: have I to upload them from
> Commons, or there's the possibility to access to them/to a copy of them
> into some folder of Labs without any need of uploading (painfully) a copy?
> 
> No, labs doesn't have media. Only XML dumps and pageview stats. Download from 
> upload.wikimedia.org is supposed to be rather fast though.
> 
> 
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Djvulibre routines into Labs

2013-11-29 Thread Alex Brollo
Thanks Thomas, but I'm looking for something much subtler: I look for
mapped text of OCR with any possible detail - t.i. I need at least the
output of djvutxt, djvudump, djvused - and obviously of a copy of djvu
file.

Presently I can't follow the wikidata adventure nor the metadata flow - I
focus my interest on tools to help user while editing/formatting text of
pages.

Alex


2013/11/29 Thomas Tanon 

> There are already a lot of data in the img_metadata field of the image
> table. I hope all data you are looking for are in it.
>
> Thomas
>
> Le 28 nov. 2013 à 23:57, Alex Brollo  a écrit :
>
> I feel uncomfortable thinking to upload large files just to use a little
> bit of data... I presume that djvu are saved as "bundled" files, have you
> any new about saving them as "indirect" files, t.i. as single pages + an
> index file and some rather small pieces? Who could give me some detail
> about djvu files storage, and about projects to develop their management?
>
> I opened a "bold bug" in Bugzilla asking for some API actions bridging API
> and  djvulibre routines; who is in your opinion an API developer which
> could be interested about such a rough  idea?
>
> Alex
>
>
> 2013/11/28 Federico Leva (Nemo) 
>
>> Alex Brollo, 28/11/2013 20:36:
>>
>>  I'll try to test some routines to manage both image and text layers of
>>> our itsource djvu files. My question: have I to upload them from
>>> Commons, or there's the possibility to access to them/to a copy of them
>>> into some folder of Labs without any need of uploading (painfully) a
>>> copy?
>>>
>>
>> No, labs doesn't have media. Only XML dumps and pageview stats. Download
>> from upload.wikimedia.org is supposed to be rather fast though.
>>
>>
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Djvulibre routines into Labs

2013-11-29 Thread Thomas Tanon
For these use cases I think that download the file is the best way to do it. 
It’s very quick because the connection between labs and the other Wikimedia 
clusters is very good.

Thomas

Le 29 nov. 2013 à 18:25, Alex Brollo  a écrit :

> Thanks Thomas, but I'm looking for something much subtler: I look for mapped 
> text of OCR with any possible detail - t.i. I need at least the output of 
> djvutxt, djvudump, djvused - and obviously of a copy of djvu file. 
> 
> Presently I can't follow the wikidata adventure nor the metadata flow - I 
> focus my interest on tools to help user while editing/formatting text of 
> pages. 
> 
> Alex
> 
> 
> 2013/11/29 Thomas Tanon 
> There are already a lot of data in the img_metadata field of the image table. 
> I hope all data you are looking for are in it.
> 
> Thomas
> 
> Le 28 nov. 2013 à 23:57, Alex Brollo  a écrit :
> 
>> I feel uncomfortable thinking to upload large files just to use a little bit 
>> of data... I presume that djvu are saved as "bundled" files, have you any 
>> new about saving them as "indirect" files, t.i. as single pages + an index 
>> file and some rather small pieces? Who could give me some detail about djvu 
>> files storage, and about projects to develop their management?
>> 
>> I opened a "bold bug" in Bugzilla asking for some API actions bridging API 
>> and  djvulibre routines; who is in your opinion an API developer which could 
>> be interested about such a rough  idea? 
>> 
>> Alex
>> 
>> 
>> 2013/11/28 Federico Leva (Nemo) 
>> Alex Brollo, 28/11/2013 20:36:
>> 
>> I'll try to test some routines to manage both image and text layers of
>> our itsource djvu files. My question: have I to upload them from
>> Commons, or there's the possibility to access to them/to a copy of them
>> into some folder of Labs without any need of uploading (painfully) a copy?
>> 
>> No, labs doesn't have media. Only XML dumps and pageview stats. Download 
>> from upload.wikimedia.org is supposed to be rather fast though.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Djvulibre routines into Labs

2013-11-29 Thread Alex Brollo
OK, I'll do. I hate to move many Mby around the web without a real and
strong need but I hope to build some tools to help users while
contributing, and this, IMHO, is one from the best justifications to use
band and servers time.

Alex




2013/11/29 Thomas Tanon 

> For these use cases I think that download the file is the best way to do
> it. It’s very quick because the connection between labs and the other
> Wikimedia clusters is very good.
>
> Thomas
>
> Le 29 nov. 2013 à 18:25, Alex Brollo  a écrit :
>
> Thanks Thomas, but I'm looking for something much subtler: I look for
> mapped text of OCR with any possible detail - t.i. I need at least the
> output of djvutxt, djvudump, djvused - and obviously of a copy of djvu
> file.
>
> Presently I can't follow the wikidata adventure nor the metadata flow - I
> focus my interest on tools to help user while editing/formatting text of
> pages.
>
> Alex
>
>
> 2013/11/29 Thomas Tanon 
>
>> There are already a lot of data in the img_metadata field of the image
>> table. I hope all data you are looking for are in it.
>>
>> Thomas
>>
>> Le 28 nov. 2013 à 23:57, Alex Brollo  a écrit :
>>
>> I feel uncomfortable thinking to upload large files just to use a little
>> bit of data... I presume that djvu are saved as "bundled" files, have you
>> any new about saving them as "indirect" files, t.i. as single pages + an
>> index file and some rather small pieces? Who could give me some detail
>> about djvu files storage, and about projects to develop their management?
>>
>> I opened a "bold bug" in Bugzilla asking for some API actions bridging
>> API and  djvulibre routines; who is in your opinion an API developer which
>> could be interested about such a rough  idea?
>>
>> Alex
>>
>>
>> 2013/11/28 Federico Leva (Nemo) 
>>
>>> Alex Brollo, 28/11/2013 20:36:
>>>
>>>  I'll try to test some routines to manage both image and text layers of
 our itsource djvu files. My question: have I to upload them from
 Commons, or there's the possibility to access to them/to a copy of them
 into some folder of Labs without any need of uploading (painfully) a
 copy?

>>>
>>> No, labs doesn't have media. Only XML dumps and pageview stats. Download
>>> from upload.wikimedia.org is supposed to be rather fast though.
>>>
>>>
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