Re: [Wikisource-l] More on difficulties of discovery of WS within Wikidata

[Erasmo Barresi]

The problem with item Q936276 is that three of the four "editions" are not 
editions at all--one is a TV series and two are films. I just asked on Wikidata 
(https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property_talk:P144#Reverse_property.3F) what 
property should be used in such cases.

Erasmo Barresi

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> I was just working through data bits and pieces and found another
> interesting example of the issues of difficulties of separation.
> 
> d:q936276 is the book "wind in the willows" from there find out which one
> has the edition of the book.
> 
> While I know that wikidata is primarily focused on data pulls, that there
> is no visual cues is an issue. One wonders whether there is an opportunity
> to have sister flags against each of  the "edition(s)".
> 
> Regards, Billinghurst

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Re: [Wikisource-l] More on difficulties of discovery of WS within Wikidata

[Sam Wilson]

Is it acceptable to add a descriptive bit to the title of editions? I 
assume so? (I'm still pretty unsure of the culture on Wikidata.)


I've just done it here: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q20706406

Also: is it true that every Item with a ' 
Wikisource 
index page' claim should an 'edition or translation of' some actual 
work? That makes sense to me. :) 



—sam.



On 16/07/15 18:46, David Cuenca Tudela wrote:
You could add some cue to the title of each edition, or add a 
description, that way placing the mouse cursor over the item it 
displays the hint.
Of course as you sad for Wikidata the navigation it is not so 
important, since it is considered a backend, the frontend should deal 
with displaying more details of each edition. It is possible to do it, 
just needs programmer time which we don't have.



Regards,
Micru

On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 3:01 AM, billinghurst 
mailto:billinghurstw...@gmail.com>> wrote:


I was just working through data bits and pieces and found another
interesting example of the issues of difficulties of separation.

d:q936276 is the book "wind in the willows" from there find out
which one has the edition of the book.

While I know that wikidata is primarily focused on data pulls,
that there is no visual cues is an issue. One wonders whether
there is an opportunity to have sister flags against each of  the
"edition(s)".

Regards, Billinghurst


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Re: [Wikisource-l] More on difficulties of discovery of WS within Wikidata

[billinghurst]

Adding cues to the title appears contrary to the titling guidance as it was
explained to me (a couple of years ago).

As certain maintenance can only readily be undertaken face-to-face to the
data, it needs something better.

Is there a possibility of some sort of JavaScript gadget that could allow
for the display of sister usage / interlanguage usage on the related
items?   [Thinking here where it says property = edition(s) that it could
have WS and an EN or FR ... as an indicator] Having to follow a link every
time when working from the top is a pita.

Billinghurst

On Thu, 16 Jul 2015 20:46 David Cuenca Tudela  wrote:

> You could add some cue to the title of each edition, or add a description,
> that way placing the mouse cursor over the item it displays the hint.
> Of course as you sad for Wikidata the navigation it is not so important,
> since it is considered a backend, the frontend should deal with displaying
> more details of each edition. It is possible to do it, just needs
> programmer time which we don't have.
>
>
> Regards,
> Micru
>
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 3:01 AM, billinghurst 
> wrote:
>
>> I was just working through data bits and pieces and found another
>> interesting example of the issues of difficulties of separation.
>>
>> d:q936276 is the book "wind in the willows" from there find out which one
>> has the edition of the book.
>>
>> While I know that wikidata is primarily focused on data pulls, that there
>> is no visual cues is an issue. One wonders whether there is an opportunity
>> to have sister flags against each of  the "edition(s)".
>>
>> Regards, Billinghurst
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Re: [Wikisource-l] More on difficulties of discovery of WS within Wikidata

[David Cuenca Tudela]

You could add some cue to the title of each edition, or add a description,
that way placing the mouse cursor over the item it displays the hint.
Of course as you sad for Wikidata the navigation it is not so important,
since it is considered a backend, the frontend should deal with displaying
more details of each edition. It is possible to do it, just needs
programmer time which we don't have.


Regards,
Micru

On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 3:01 AM, billinghurst 
wrote:

> I was just working through data bits and pieces and found another
> interesting example of the issues of difficulties of separation.
>
> d:q936276 is the book "wind in the willows" from there find out which one
> has the edition of the book.
>
> While I know that wikidata is primarily focused on data pulls, that there
> is no visual cues is an issue. One wonders whether there is an opportunity
> to have sister flags against each of  the "edition(s)".
>
> Regards, Billinghurst
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