Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikidata property for Index pages. Bot needed!

2015-06-26 Thread billinghurst
ugh google mobile inbox doesn't seem to thread well, but let us see how it
manages.

-- billinghurst

On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 09:34 Sam Wilson  wrote:

This is great.

I'm not yet really up on Wikidata, but why's it a URL? How does the "scan
file (Commons)(P996)" property work? This one is doing a similar thing to
that. I guess we can't have a Wikisource Index data type though. :(


I agree that it seems a little weird, it knows it is a WS, language
dropdown would have been nice.  That said it is a URL as it needs to point
to a language, the sister and a filename and at this time with the current
technology that means is a URL. The body there cannot do wiki select then
file look up.

Scan points to the file, and index the index. There are elements of
duplication (and more more more) which I don't understand,  so others will
need to address that aspect.


Anyway, what I wanted to ask was whether anyone could tell me how one can
get from an Index page, to the mainspace work's page (to get the Wikidata
item for the work)? Because at the moment it's a matter of following the
link found in the #ws-title table cell — and sometimes there's more than
one link there, so it gets confusing. Also, many editions span more than
one Index.


Now that we have the arbitrary linking we can include a field in the Index
ns template to do linking BUT I would much prefer a means to auto link,
otherwise a bot to do. For those I am going to need to speak to someone
clueful.

Ah... or is that what's going to be solved with this property? Because at
the moment, there's no hard and fast way to do this, but if every index
was referenced in Wikidata from an edition's page, then it'd be simple. Is
that the idea?

  I missed the rationale beyond "here is an idea ..."  We have to
have edition pages for all first, and who knows where that is currently
situated.

Of course, a script would perhaps just update the unambiguous cases, and
leave the odd ones to us humans.

  in my experience  the odd ones are the humans 😉

(Sorry, I'm not being very coherent... I'll start learning more about
wikidata I think!)

-sam.

On Fri, June 26, 2015 4:56 am, David Cuenca Tudela wrote:
> Just recently a new Wikidata property for linking with the Index page has
> been created
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1957
>
> An example of its use can be seen here:
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q15839163
>
> In theory it should be possible to import it automatically. Is anyone
> capable of writing a bot for importing it?
>
> Cheers,
> Micru
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikidata property for Index pages. Bot needed!

2015-06-25 Thread Sam Wilson
This is great.

I'm not yet really up on Wikidata, but why's it a URL? How does the "scan
file (Commons)(P996)" property work? This one is doing a similar thing to
that. I guess we can't have a Wikisource Index data type though. :(

Anyway, what I wanted to ask was whether anyone could tell me how one can
get from an Index page, to the mainspace work's page (to get the Wikidata
item for the work)? Because at the moment it's a matter of following the
link found in the #ws-title table cell — and sometimes there's more than
one link there, so it gets confusing. Also, many editions span more than
one Index.

Ah... or is that what's going to be solved with this property? Because at
the moment, there's no hard and fast way to do this, but if every index
was referenced in Wikidata from an edition's page, then it'd be simple. Is
that the idea?

Of course, a script would perhaps just update the unambiguous cases, and
leave the odd ones to us humans.

(Sorry, I'm not being very coherent... I'll start learning more about
wikidata I think!)

-sam.

On Fri, June 26, 2015 4:56 am, David Cuenca Tudela wrote:
> Just recently a new Wikidata property for linking with the Index page has
> been created
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1957
>
> An example of its use can be seen here:
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q15839163
>
> In theory it should be possible to import it automatically. Is anyone
> capable of writing a bot for importing it?
>
> Cheers,
> Micru
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikidata property for Index pages. Bot needed!

2015-06-25 Thread billinghurst
I don't write though happy to watch/maintain, and sometimes adapt. We have
wikisourcebot sitting at Labs with multiple maintainers if someone needs
the vehicle.

-- billinghurst

On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 06:57 David Cuenca Tudela  wrote:

> Just recently a new Wikidata property for linking with the Index page has
> been created
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1957
>
> An example of its use can be seen here:
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q15839163
>
> In theory it should be possible to import it automatically. Is anyone
> capable of writing a bot for importing it?
>
> Cheers,
> Micru
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> Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
>
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