Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki 1.16.0beta1 now available

2010-03-13 Thread Tisza Gergő
Tim Starling  wikimedia.org> writes:

> * Watchlists now have RSS/Atom feeds. RSS feeds generally are now
> hidden, since Atom is a better protocol and is supported by virtually
> all clients.

Could this be switched on on WMF wikis? Currently if you click on the feed icon,
you will see "Wikipedia RSS feed" and "Wikipedia Atom feed", and I doubt more
than a few percent of our visitors understand those.


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Re: [Wikitech-l] Uploads on small wikis

2010-03-13 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Thomas Dalton  wrote:
> If these are projects with active users, isn't this a decision to be
> made by those active users rather than wikitech-l?

Wikimedia defaults are decided by wikitech-l/Wikimedia.  Specific
communities can choose to opt out of those defaults if they choose.
Requiring all communities to explicitly opt in to any changes would
make the defaults almost impossible to change.  The change requiring
autoconfirmed for upload wasn't approved by all the communities
individually in any case, so it wouldn't make sense to require the
change back to be so approved.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Uploads on small wikis

2010-03-13 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 14 March 2010 00:34, Aryeh Gregor  wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Thomas Dalton  
> wrote:
>> If these are projects with active users, isn't this a decision to be
>> made by those active users rather than wikitech-l?
>
> Wikimedia defaults are decided by wikitech-l/Wikimedia.  Specific
> communities can choose to opt out of those defaults if they choose.
> Requiring all communities to explicitly opt in to any changes would
> make the defaults almost impossible to change.  The change requiring
> autoconfirmed for upload wasn't approved by all the communities
> individually in any case, so it wouldn't make sense to require the
> change back to be so approved.

I wouldn't count a change to just certain projects as being a change
to the defaults.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Google Summer of Code and Wikimedia Foundation

2010-03-13 Thread Rob Lanphier
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 3:16 PM, m b  wrote:
>
> Anyway, are we signed up for GSOC 2010 yet? I've heard some concern voiced
> since there is only an hour left.
> Reference<
> http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/faqs#timeline
> >
>


Yup, our application is in.  As some of you may have heard, there was a
little confusion about the deadline which caused some anxiety all around,
but that's all been sorted out (yet another reason to thank the folks at
Google...)

Rob
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Google Summer of Code and Wikimedia Foundation

2010-03-13 Thread Rob Lanphier
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 2:55 PM, K. Peachey  wrote:

> The reason I suggested a separate IRC channel, since i wrote about it
> at night and my crazied ramblings probably didn't resemble much, (or
> communication venue in general, for example people have pointed out a
> mailing list) is because as someone pointed out (someone, Dmitriy i
> think it was without rereading all the emails) pointed out some of our
> channels are quite busy such as our #mediawiki and it is easy for
> questions to be missed espically in the peak-er hours of IRCing.



I've certainly experienced this problem myself, so I can definitely
understand it.  However, this is something that all new contributors are in
danger of going through, not just the paid interns, so we should probably
think a little bit about the larger problem while we're at it.

That's not to say that we shouldn't come up with a GSoC-specific solution as
well.  I'm not sure a new channel is the right solution, but it's worth
brainstorming on solutions.  For example, is there a helpful (and
non-annoying) role that a bot might be able to play?  E.g. a bot can know
the IRC handles of the students, and if no one answers that person by name
after 30 minutes, it could ping a set of us volunteers with "xxx, yyy, zzz,
robla: could you check if GSoC-Student-A's question: 'is it ok if I
introduce a couple new globals?' got answered?"  I'd be ok with being on
that list.

Rob
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