Re: [Wikitech-l] 1.16wmf4 deployment

2010-04-10 Thread Tim Starling
Could everyone *please* test their bugfixes locally before they commit
them, backport them and have them deployed? A major deployment is not
a good excuse to skip this evidently very useful practice.

If the site is completely down for everyone then maybe there is a case
that you couldn't make it worse than it already is. But I've seen
fatal errors converted to massive data loss so I'm completely
convinced by that argument either. But most bug fixes do not have that
level of urgency.

And just to make it clear that I am not singling anyone out with this
post, I have seen at least four developers do this in the last two days.

-- Tim Starling


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[Wikitech-l] Languages

2010-04-10 Thread Huib Laurens
Hello,

I'm using a mediawiki farm with multible wiki, all using there own code.

I have been busy and they are using one /images/ /cache/ and one
/skins/ but I'm wondering... Is it also possible to use one directory
with the languages for all wiki's ?

Best regards

Huib

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Languages

2010-04-10 Thread Roan Kattouw
2010/4/10 Huib Laurens :
> Hello,
>
> I'm using a mediawiki farm with multible wiki, all using there own code.
>
> I have been busy and they are using one /images/ /cache/ and one
> /skins/ but I'm wondering... Is it also possible to use one directory
> with the languages for all wiki's ?
>
There's no config var for that like there is for the skin, cache and
upload paths, but you could always use symlinks for the
/languages/messages/ directory (provided you're not on Windows).

Roan Kattouw (Catrope)

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Wiki syntax for representing that a page is a "child" of another page?

2010-04-10 Thread Helder Geovane
2010/4/10 Jack Bates 

> Does there exist a recommended wiki syntax for representing that a page
> is hierarchically a "child" of another page?
>
> I don't want to rename the pages
>
> Currently I use this static, hierarchical index of wiki pages which are
> part of our user manual,
> http://github.com/jablko/manual/raw/master/manual.html
>
> - to compile the pages into this PDF, http://ica-atom.org/manual.pdf
>
> Now however, instead of the static index, I want to represent in each
> page's wiki markup, which pages are logically "children" of that page
>
> Among the reasons for doing this is that, to build the PDF based on the
> static index, currently I recursively concatenate first the body of a
> page, followed by each of its children
>
> Now I have a case where, instead of concatenating the children after the
> page body, the children need to be inserted at various positions in the
> page body
>
> So I think I need to indicate these positions with some wiki syntax, and
> this will make the static index redundant
>
> I thought "transclusion" was a candidate, because pages are recursively
> transcluded to build the PDF, http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Transclusion
>
> In the wiki however, I don't actually want to display pages embedded in
> each other - instead I want links to child pages. This represents enough
> information about the hierarchical structure to build the PDF
>
> My current best candidate is the  "link
> relation",
>
> * http://www.imc.org/atom-syntax/mail-archive/msg21260
> * http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-divilly-atom-hierarchy-03
>
> Is there a better syntax for representing, at a particular position in a
> page, that another page is a "child"?
>

I seems that this is another instance of the problem mentioned at bug 15073:
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15073
What is needed is a "set of special pages for handling meta-organization of
books", but this depends on bug 15071 (Wikibooks custom database schema):
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15071
 for which doesn't
have any progress since 2008-09-16...

Helder
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Wiki syntax for representing that a page is a "child" of another page?

2010-04-10 Thread Platonides

You could express those relantionships using semantic mediawiki.



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