Re: [Wikitech-l] What do you want to learn?
I want to learn with puppet, but there is no testing repository to use. Every change needs to be approved by ops and that usually takes several weeks :/ or it used to. On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 2:16 AM, Sumana Harihareswara wrote: > TL;DR summary: reply to tell me what you want to learn so I can get you > a mentor. > > Longer version: > Sometimes I hear that someone wants to get +2 in MediaWiki core or the > ops repo, or that they hope to someday get into Google Summer of Code or > deploy changes on the site ... but they don't know how. > > And the "how" is going to depend on you. Maybe you're a systematic > learner and you thrive on a syllabus with readings. Maybe you're an > more opportunistic learner and you do better with exercises. Maybe you > prefer to discuss problems and ideas with a group, and maybe you thrive > with the personal attention of a mentor who'll review your patches and > suggest where you need to improve. > > I'm just speculating. Volunteers, staffers, any kind of technical > contributors, please reply to this thread to give me data: what do you > want to learn, and how do you learn best? > > Examples might be: > > * I want to learn enough about language engineering and mobile to help > out with troubleshooting mobile apps and the mobile website in Asian > languages. And I learn best by chewing on hard problems and getting > help in IRC when I need it. > * I want +2 in core and I want to work for the WMF someday, but people > don't understand me and my patches get rejected or just sit waiting a > long time, so I think I need to work on my English skills and figure out > what I need to improve in my engineering approach. I need a mentor to > assign me reading and writing work and CS texts to read. > > I will almost certainly use the responses to develop the structure of a > mentorship program, and start suggesting mentor-mentee matches that will > include volunteers and WMF staffers. > > (Unfortunately I'll probably lose internet access in the next couple > days due to weather, but I'll respond when I get back online.) > > -- > Sumana Harihareswara > Engineering Community Manager > Wikimedia Foundation > > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] What do you want to learn?
TL;DR summary: reply to tell me what you want to learn so I can get you a mentor. Longer version: Sometimes I hear that someone wants to get +2 in MediaWiki core or the ops repo, or that they hope to someday get into Google Summer of Code or deploy changes on the site ... but they don't know how. And the "how" is going to depend on you. Maybe you're a systematic learner and you thrive on a syllabus with readings. Maybe you're an more opportunistic learner and you do better with exercises. Maybe you prefer to discuss problems and ideas with a group, and maybe you thrive with the personal attention of a mentor who'll review your patches and suggest where you need to improve. I'm just speculating. Volunteers, staffers, any kind of technical contributors, please reply to this thread to give me data: what do you want to learn, and how do you learn best? Examples might be: * I want to learn enough about language engineering and mobile to help out with troubleshooting mobile apps and the mobile website in Asian languages. And I learn best by chewing on hard problems and getting help in IRC when I need it. * I want +2 in core and I want to work for the WMF someday, but people don't understand me and my patches get rejected or just sit waiting a long time, so I think I need to work on my English skills and figure out what I need to improve in my engineering approach. I need a mentor to assign me reading and writing work and CS texts to read. I will almost certainly use the responses to develop the structure of a mentorship program, and start suggesting mentor-mentee matches that will include volunteers and WMF staffers. (Unfortunately I'll probably lose internet access in the next couple days due to weather, but I'll respond when I get back online.) -- Sumana Harihareswara Engineering Community Manager Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Clean up prototype.wikimedia.org
Inline Comments On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Krinkle wrote: > Hey all, > > I thought I'd put together a list of stuff I found running on > prototype.wikimedia.org. > > I have no control over terminating the machine itself, but I intend to clean > up stuff that is no longer used so that when it is eventually terminated, > ideally nothing runs on it anymore. > > As you should know by now this server is a ticking time bomb. Since it is > fairly unorganised (no central registry of what is and isn't used or by > whom), I'll dump it here. Please reply with what you know is or isn't being > used anymore. > > * IdeaTorrent http://prototype.wikimedia.org/ideas/ > ** en-idea/ > ** en-idea-6.14/ > ** en-idea-6.16/ Idea that never got off the ground, Vote to kill. > Wikis http://prototype.wikimedia.org/wikis/ > * Release-candidate (rc-ar, rc-de, rc-en, rc-pl) > * Deployment (d-ar, d-de, d-en, d-es, d-fr, d-it, d-ja, d-ko, d-nl, d-pl, > d-ru, d-si, d-sr, d-zh) > * Article Creation Branch > * FlaggedRevs (de, en) > * iwtrans (1, 2, 3) We have labs now, Lets kill on site? > * mwe-gadget, mwe-gadget-testing > * TimedMediaHandler (tmh) Labs, also live on commons now > * Semantic (smw-1) > * WM-DE (wmde-b, wmde-s-1) > > Wiki release-candidate infrastructure: > * Backups http://prototype.wikimedia.org/backups/ > * Exports http://prototype.wikimedia.org/exports/ > * Maintenance http://prototype.wikimedia.org/maintenance/ > > Items on this lists that do not yield reason to do otherwise before Sunday 11 > November 2012 (in 2 weeks), will be `rm -rf`-ed from the server on Monday 12 > November[1]. > > If you own any of these (or ones not listed here) and have no problem with > its removal, feel free to ssh in and remove it yourself whenever you feel > like. > > -- Krinkle > > [1] I intend to remove them separately, not all at once. So if support for a > few is shown, I'll still remove the rest. Please reply complete (e.g. "I use > X" will mean I keep X, it won't mean I leave Y and Z as well). > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Clean up prototype.wikimedia.org
Hey all, I thought I'd put together a list of stuff I found running on prototype.wikimedia.org. I have no control over terminating the machine itself, but I intend to clean up stuff that is no longer used so that when it is eventually terminated, ideally nothing runs on it anymore. As you should know by now this server is a ticking time bomb. Since it is fairly unorganised (no central registry of what is and isn't used or by whom), I'll dump it here. Please reply with what you know is or isn't being used anymore. * IdeaTorrent http://prototype.wikimedia.org/ideas/ ** en-idea/ ** en-idea-6.14/ ** en-idea-6.16/ Wikis http://prototype.wikimedia.org/wikis/ * Release-candidate (rc-ar, rc-de, rc-en, rc-pl) * Deployment (d-ar, d-de, d-en, d-es, d-fr, d-it, d-ja, d-ko, d-nl, d-pl, d-ru, d-si, d-sr, d-zh) * Article Creation Branch * FlaggedRevs (de, en) * iwtrans (1, 2, 3) * mwe-gadget, mwe-gadget-testing * TimedMediaHandler (tmh) * Semantic (smw-1) * WM-DE (wmde-b, wmde-s-1) Wiki release-candidate infrastructure: * Backups http://prototype.wikimedia.org/backups/ * Exports http://prototype.wikimedia.org/exports/ * Maintenance http://prototype.wikimedia.org/maintenance/ Items on this lists that do not yield reason to do otherwise before Sunday 11 November 2012 (in 2 weeks), will be `rm -rf`-ed from the server on Monday 12 November[1]. If you own any of these (or ones not listed here) and have no problem with its removal, feel free to ssh in and remove it yourself whenever you feel like. -- Krinkle [1] I intend to remove them separately, not all at once. So if support for a few is shown, I'll still remove the rest. Please reply complete (e.g. "I use X" will mean I keep X, it won't mean I leave Y and Z as well). ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Switching to Timed Media Handler on EnWiki (was: Commons)
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Jan Gerber wrote: >> I know we conducted tests for TMH “playing” well with oggHandler provider ( >> i.e the test2.wikipedia.org pages are embedding commons videos but played >> back with TMH ) ... I am not sure if we have conducted tests for oggHandler >> playing well with a TMH provider with the possible configuration phases >> mentioned above. > > good point. labs is setup like that now: en running OggHandler and commons TMH > > http://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/File:Citygroup_Center,_San_Francisco.ogv > http://commons.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/File:Citygroup_Center,_San_Francisco.ogv > > so that part looks good to go. (should also test smaller embeds to be sure) Ok, so after this, and a couple of brief offlist discussions, we've made a slight change to the plan: Here's what we'll do: 1) Wednesday, October 31: Deploy to en.wikipedia.org first. There's enough video content there, and robust enough feedback (WP:VPT) that if there's any problem with video, we'll hear about it. Also, more easiliy reversed than going to commons. 2) (TBD, possibly Monday, November 5) Deploy to everything *but* commons 3) (TBD, possibly Wednesday, November 7) Deploy to commons I'll make the changes to all of the published plans to reflect this. Rob ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Switching to Timed Media Handler on Commons
> I know we conducted tests for TMH “playing” well with oggHandler provider ( > i.e the test2.wikipedia.org pages are embedding commons videos but played > back with TMH ) ... I am not sure if we have conducted tests for oggHandler > playing well with a TMH provider with the possible configuration phases > mentioned above. good point. labs is setup like that now: en running OggHandler and commons TMH http://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/File:Citygroup_Center,_San_Francisco.ogv http://commons.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/File:Citygroup_Center,_San_Francisco.ogv so that part looks good to go. (should also test smaller embeds to be sure) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Reminder: Tech chat tomorrow
+1 JS libraries beyond jQuery On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Erik Moeller wrote: > Reminder that we'll have one of our weekly tech chats tomorrow, with > video from the WMF office and other Hangout participants broadcast via > YouTube: > > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Meetings/2012-10-30 > > As a special topic, I've asked David Schoonover to moderate a > discussion about JS libraries beyond jQuery if there's sufficient > interest. > > Cheers, > Erik > -- > Erik Möller > VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation > > Support Free Knowledge: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate > > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Reminder: Tech chat tomorrow
Reminder that we'll have one of our weekly tech chats tomorrow, with video from the WMF office and other Hangout participants broadcast via YouTube: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Meetings/2012-10-30 As a special topic, I've asked David Schoonover to moderate a discussion about JS libraries beyond jQuery if there's sufficient interest. Cheers, Erik -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Welcome, Brad Jorsch!
On 10/29/2012 02:17 PM, Rob Lanphier wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm delighted to announce that Brad Jorsch starts at the Wikimedia > Foundation today as a Software Engineer in Platform Engineering, > working in the MediaWiki Core group. Welcome, Anomie! I appreciate everything you've already given to the Wikimedia movement as a volunteer, and I look forward to seeing your further contributions as one of the WMF staff. -- Sumana Harihareswara Engineering Community Manager Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Improving Documentation on Bug Report Management
On Thu, 2012-10-11 at 12:39 +0200, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > Hello Andre, I think you should move the inventory you posted on en.wiki > to a subpage of https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bugzilla so that it can > be edited and discussed on talk. Thanks! Moved now: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bug_management/Wild_ideas andre -- Andre Klapper | Wikimedia Bugwrangler http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Welcome, Brad Jorsch!
Congrats Anomie, I just want to mention that as a founder of beta cluster I can also offer some help, though I didn't do so much as Antoinne there :) Petr P.S. we talked about labs on hackaton, if you remember On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 7:17 PM, Rob Lanphier wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm delighted to announce that Brad Jorsch starts at the Wikimedia > Foundation today as a Software Engineer in Platform Engineering, > working in the MediaWiki Core group. > > You might already know Brad as "Anomie", the username by which he's > contributed to Wikimedia sites for many years. He's written useful > bots ("AnomieBot"), templates, and user scripts on English Wikipedia, > reported lots of bugs, and contributed to MediaWiki core, including > the parser and the API. > > His first task is to improve the robustness of the beta cluster, > working with Antoine Musso and Chris McMahon. But you'll probably > also see him exercising his front-end skills as a code reviewer for > JavaScript and CSS changes. > > Brad grew up in Two Rivers, Wisconsin, then went to college at > Northwestern University, getting his bachelor's degree in Computer > Science there. After graduating, he moved to Burlington, North > Carolina where he is today (he'll be working remotely) > > Welcome, Brad! > > Rob > > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Welcome, Brad Jorsch!
Hi everyone, I'm delighted to announce that Brad Jorsch starts at the Wikimedia Foundation today as a Software Engineer in Platform Engineering, working in the MediaWiki Core group. You might already know Brad as "Anomie", the username by which he's contributed to Wikimedia sites for many years. He's written useful bots ("AnomieBot"), templates, and user scripts on English Wikipedia, reported lots of bugs, and contributed to MediaWiki core, including the parser and the API. His first task is to improve the robustness of the beta cluster, working with Antoine Musso and Chris McMahon. But you'll probably also see him exercising his front-end skills as a code reviewer for JavaScript and CSS changes. Brad grew up in Two Rivers, Wisconsin, then went to college at Northwestern University, getting his bachelor's degree in Computer Science there. After graduating, he moved to Burlington, North Carolina where he is today (he'll be working remotely) Welcome, Brad! Rob ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l