Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki 1.21.0rc1 -- Help test 1.21 and update the announcement

2013-04-01 Thread Mark A. Hershberger
On 03/31/2013 10:58 PM, Dmitrii Kouznetsov wrote:
 Should I install git ?

No, this is a complete, downloadable version.

 Should I install PHP ?

Yes, MediaWiki requires at least version 5.3.2 of PHP.

 Should I install MathJax ?
 Should I install C++?
 Suould I install Latex?

None of these is needed.

 What versions of the software above are required for and compatible with
 your version of wiki?

Note that this is a release candidate for MediaWiki 1.21.0 -- it is not
my version of the software as I've done nothing special with this.  I
am the release manager for MediaWiki and this is a release candidate for
a normal release.

This may not be absolutely clear since I used my own server for the
release instead of download.wikimedia.org.  I had the release ready and
didn't want to wait for someone to upload it to download.wm.o, so I put
it on my own server.  The next release candidate will be on download.wm.o.

 Does your version of wiki support pictures in PDF and/or EPS format?

MediaWiki supports uploading PDF and EPS files with the right
configuration.  I haven't tried uploading EPS files, but providing
thumbnails of these and the PDFs should work.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki 1.21.0rc1 -- Help test 1.21 and update the announcement

2013-04-01 Thread Brian Wolff

  Does your version of wiki support pictures in PDF and/or EPS format?

 MediaWiki supports uploading PDF and EPS files with the right
 configuration.  I haven't tried uploading EPS files, but providing
 thumbnails of these and the PDFs should work.


Im doubtful thumbnails of eps would just work. Pdf thumbs need an extension
(pdfhandler) in order to thumbnail correctly. Uploading of both these
formats should be fine on vanilla mediawiki with a small config change to
add them to the allowed file types list.

-bawolff
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Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki 1.21.0rc1 -- Help test 1.21 and update the announcement

2013-04-01 Thread Quim Gil

On 03/31/2013 04:49 PM, Mark A. Hershberger wrote:

I've just finished preparing the first release candidate for MediaWiki
1.21 and I'd like your help testing it before the final release.


With a bit of planning we could have synced your call for testing with 
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/QA/Weekly_goals


https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.21 already shows the areas 
requiring more testing. Having step-by-step instructions to get a 
testable install e.g. in Labs would be the other piece of information 
useful for a QA Weekly goal page.


Do we still have time to do something orchestrated? When are you 
planning to release, more or less?



Please download the release candidate and test it.  If you find any bugs
please report them on Bugzilla[1] and make sure I am added as a CC so
that we can fix any show-stoppers before the final release.

Finally, if you could also look over
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.21, I'll be using an edited
version of that to make the final announcement.  If you spot problems or
areas that could use clarification, your help in improving it would be
appreciated.

[1]
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=MediaWikicc=m...@everybody.orgversion=1.21-git

Full release notes:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Release_notes/1.21


**
Download:
http://mah.everybody.org/mediawiki/1.21/mediawiki-1.21.0rc1.tar.gz

Patch to previous version (1.20.0), without interface text:
http://mah.everybody.org/mediawiki/1.21/mediawiki-1.21.0rc1.patch.gz
Interface text changes:
http://mah.everybody.org/mediawiki/1.21/mediawiki-i18n-1.21.0rc1.patch.gz

GPG signatures:
http://mah.everybody.org/mediawiki/1.21/mediawiki-1.21.0rc1.tar.gz.sig
http://mah.everybody.org/mediawiki/1.21/mediawiki-1.21.0rc1.patch.gz.sig
http://mah.everybody.org/mediawiki/1.21/mediawiki-i18n-1.21.0rc1.patch.gz.sig

Public keys:
https://secure.wikimedia.org/keys.html

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Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wmfall] Fwd: Monte Hurd joins Mobile department apps team

2013-04-01 Thread Alolita Sharma
Welcome Monte! Welcome to the awesome mobile team.

-Alolita

On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Kul Wadhwa kwad...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 Monte - we're glad you left the ice fishing behind to join us. Welcome
 aboard!

 --Kul

 On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Rachel Farrand rfarr...@wikimedia.org
 wrote:

 Message from Tomasz!:

 --
 Greetings all!

 I'm pleased to welcome Monte Hurd to the Wikimedia Foundation. He
 starts on April Fools Day!

 Arriving (most recently and quite gladly) from snowy Minnesota to join
 WMF as a software engineer, he's been enthusiastically focused on
 native mobile app development for the last few years since getting off
 the startup roller coaster.

 His native app projects have included image processing, drawing,
 physics asset pipelines, video creation, background server sync and
 experimental user interfaces.

 He joins the community and mobile team efforts to develop native, user
 friendly media management apps which co-evolve with the exploding
 capabilities of modern mobile hardware, with the goal of expanding the
 contribution possibilities of both users on-the-go and users whose
 only computing device may be a mobile device. Monte joining will
 complete the app team of Brion and Yuvi and will allow for them to
 knowledge share effectively across both iOS and Android. His initial
 task will be to support the store launch of the iOS Commons App to get
 us closer to our monthly 1,000 unique uploaders goal annual goal.

 Monte lives for solving programming and climbing challenges and spent
 a good portion of last year near Yosemite to be close to some of the
 best climbing on the planet. He's glad to be back in sunny CA!

 --


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Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki 1.21.0rc1 -- Help test 1.21 and update the announcement

2013-04-01 Thread Mark A. Hershberger
On 04/01/2013 11:38 AM, Quim Gil wrote:
 On 03/31/2013 04:49 PM, Mark A. Hershberger wrote:
 I've just finished preparing the first release candidate for MediaWiki
 1.21 and I'd like your help testing it before the final release.
 
 With a bit of planning we could have synced your call for testing with
 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/QA/Weekly_goals

Well, I did say I was going to do the RC this weekend early last week.
If I had thought of this, I would have coordinated with you.  I'll try
to do that for 1.22 in a few months.

 Do we still have time to do something orchestrated? When are you
 planning to release, more or less?

Since making the announcement, I've merged a small Installer patch from
Chad, so there is definitely going to be another RC.

There *will* be a release by May 15th.  Probably before then.

There are a couple of items on
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.21 that still need to be
reviewed and merged before they are included.  It would be nice to have
those in the release.

So, yes, there is still plenty of time.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wmfall] Fwd: Monte Hurd joins Mobile department apps team

2013-04-01 Thread Monte Hurd
Thanks everyone! Very excited to be working with you!

-Monte


On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Leslie Harms lha...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Welcome Monte!!


 On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Kul Wadhwa kwad...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Monte - we're glad you left the ice fishing behind to join us. Welcome
 aboard!

 --Kul

 On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Rachel Farrand rfarr...@wikimedia.orgwrote:

 Message from Tomasz!:

 --
 Greetings all!

 I'm pleased to welcome Monte Hurd to the Wikimedia Foundation. He
 starts on April Fools Day!

 Arriving (most recently and quite gladly) from snowy Minnesota to join
 WMF as a software engineer, he's been enthusiastically focused on
 native mobile app development for the last few years since getting off
 the startup roller coaster.

 His native app projects have included image processing, drawing,
 physics asset pipelines, video creation, background server sync and
 experimental user interfaces.

 He joins the community and mobile team efforts to develop native, user
 friendly media management apps which co-evolve with the exploding
 capabilities of modern mobile hardware, with the goal of expanding the
 contribution possibilities of both users on-the-go and users whose
 only computing device may be a mobile device. Monte joining will
 complete the app team of Brion and Yuvi and will allow for them to
 knowledge share effectively across both iOS and Android. His initial
 task will be to support the store launch of the iOS Commons App to get
 us closer to our monthly 1,000 unique uploaders goal annual goal.

 Monte lives for solving programming and climbing challenges and spent
 a good portion of last year near Yosemite to be close to some of the
 best climbing on the planet. He's glad to be back in sunny CA!

 --


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Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki 1.21.0rc1 -- Help test 1.21 and update the announcement

2013-04-01 Thread Quim Gil

On 04/01/2013 10:52 AM, Mark A. Hershberger wrote:

With a bit of planning we could have synced your call for testing with
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/QA/Weekly_goals


Well, I did say I was going to do the RC this weekend early last week.
If I had thought of this, I would have coordinated with you.  I'll try
to do that for 1.22 in a few months.


Last week was crazy, sorry. Also we aim to plan these testing weeks with 
a bit more time in advance in order to have better promotion and prepare 
better documentation for new testers. That is the theory. In practice we 
are still improvising a lot with shorter timeframes.



So, yes, there is still plenty of time.


Does it still make sense to have the testing week on April 15-21?

If you think so, could we define a narrower focused? Testing the new 
release is a good scope, but anything specifically that you feel like 
deserving testing focus?


Thank you.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Observations from putting together the RC

2013-04-01 Thread Antoine Musso
Le 01/04/13 01:18, Mark A. Hershberger a écrit :
 If you can update
 their on-wiki documentation, I (and I'm sure others) would appreciate it.

 ** $wgBug34832TransitionalRollback
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgBug34832TransitionalRollback

 ** $wgEnableCanonicalServerLink
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgEnableCanonicalServerLink

 ** $wgPageInfoTransclusionLimit
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgPageInfoTransclusionLimit

 ** $wgMaxShellWallClockTime
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgMaxShellWallClockTime

 ** $wgShellCgroup
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgShellCgroup

 ** $wgSquidPurgeUseHostHeader

Renamed from wgPurgeHttp11 by 0771d643c / I9ef6a0c43fc
wgPurgeHttp11 added by a8b3feec1 / I85fe93a8c which was requested with
bug 39005.

I haven't updated the documentation page.

 ** $wgDebugAPI
 ** $wgAPIGeneratorModules

Would let the API folks do that :-]  hint:

git log -SwgDebugAPI includes/DefaultSettings.php
git log -SwgAPIGeneratorModules includes/DefaultSettings.php


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Re: [Wikitech-l] Observations from putting together the RC

2013-04-01 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
Hehe, I have added both the
SwgDebugAPIhttp://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgDebugAPI,
and the 
SwgAPIGeneratorModuleshttp://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:SwgAPIGeneratorModules.
The second one is deprecated.


On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr wrote:

 Le 01/04/13 01:18, Mark A. Hershberger a écrit :
  If you can update
  their on-wiki documentation, I (and I'm sure others) would appreciate it.

  ** $wgBug34832TransitionalRollback
 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgBug34832TransitionalRollback

  ** $wgEnableCanonicalServerLink
 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgEnableCanonicalServerLink

  ** $wgPageInfoTransclusionLimit
 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgPageInfoTransclusionLimit

  ** $wgMaxShellWallClockTime
 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgMaxShellWallClockTime

  ** $wgShellCgroup
 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgShellCgroup

  ** $wgSquidPurgeUseHostHeader

 Renamed from wgPurgeHttp11 by 0771d643c / I9ef6a0c43fc
 wgPurgeHttp11 added by a8b3feec1 / I85fe93a8c which was requested with
 bug 39005.

 I haven't updated the documentation page.

  ** $wgDebugAPI
  ** $wgAPIGeneratorModules

 Would let the API folks do that :-]  hint:

 git log -SwgDebugAPI includes/DefaultSettings.php
 git log -SwgAPIGeneratorModules includes/DefaultSettings.php


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[Wikitech-l] Gerrit actively discourages discussion

2013-04-01 Thread MZMcBride
Hi.

I'm concerned that Gerrit actively discourages discussion currently. I see
a few issues:

* auto-collapsing all comments except the most recent;
* no reply feature or support for quoting (similar to what Bugzilla uses);
and
* the add comment feature doesn't allow you to write a comment while
viewing the code or viewing the other comments, resulting in an awful
workflow for me when attempting to write a comment.

Is there some way to address these issues? Would it make sense to move all
discussion back to Bugzilla? Is there some way to adjust Gerrit's behavior
here? Or perhaps I'm the only one who finds this problematic.

MZMcBride



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Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit actively discourages discussion

2013-04-01 Thread Matthew Walker
You are definitely not the only one who finds these issues annoying. I too
worry about the same.

~Matt Walker
Wikimedia Foundation
Fundraising Technology Team


On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 7:39 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:

 Hi.

 I'm concerned that Gerrit actively discourages discussion currently. I see
 a few issues:

 * auto-collapsing all comments except the most recent;
 * no reply feature or support for quoting (similar to what Bugzilla uses);
 and
 * the add comment feature doesn't allow you to write a comment while
 viewing the code or viewing the other comments, resulting in an awful
 workflow for me when attempting to write a comment.

 Is there some way to address these issues? Would it make sense to move all
 discussion back to Bugzilla? Is there some way to adjust Gerrit's behavior
 here? Or perhaps I'm the only one who finds this problematic.

 MZMcBride



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Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit actively discourages discussion

2013-04-01 Thread Jeremy Baron
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:51 AM, Matthew Walker mwal...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 You are definitely not the only one who finds these issues annoying. I too
 worry about the same.

+1

Another big one is (1 comment) which gives no information about the
comment or where it was made and no easy way to jump straight to it.
(a link or AJAX or whatever).
OTOH, the email notifs about inline code comments are often useful.

-Jeremy

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit actively discourages discussion

2013-04-01 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-04-02 12:32 AM, Jeremy Baron jer...@tuxmachine.com wrote:

 On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:51 AM, Matthew Walker mwal...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
  You are definitely not the only one who finds these issues annoying. I
too
  worry about the same.

 +1

 Another big one is (1 comment) which gives no information about the
 comment or where it was made and no easy way to jump straight to it.
 (a link or AJAX or whatever).
 OTOH, the email notifs about inline code comments are often useful.

 -Jeremy

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+1 to both emails.

It can be very frustrating trying to follow a conversation on gerrit after
the fact.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit actively discourages discussion

2013-04-01 Thread Isarra Yos

On 02/04/13 06:43, Brian Wolff wrote:

On 2013-04-02 12:32 AM, Jeremy Baron jer...@tuxmachine.com wrote:

On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:51 AM, Matthew Walker mwal...@wikimedia.org

wrote:

You are definitely not the only one who finds these issues annoying. I

too

worry about the same.

+1

Another big one is (1 comment) which gives no information about the
comment or where it was made and no easy way to jump straight to it.
(a link or AJAX or whatever).
OTOH, the email notifs about inline code comments are often useful.

-Jeremy

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+1 to both emails.

It can be very frustrating trying to follow a conversation on gerrit after
the fact.

-bawolff
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This is especially true when considering the results of submitting a new 
patchset - it can cause all old comments to get lost, in a sense - 
inline ones are hidden in the previous patchset (which is collapsed), 
and a new comment covers previous comments, obfuscating any current 
discussion.


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