Re: [Wikitech-l] Suggestion for solving the disambiguation problem

2013-07-18 Thread John Erling Blad
Not sure if the analysis has to expose any private data at all, you
show the result of the analysis and that would integrate over weeks or
months and perhaps after filtering out random noise. Would that be a
privacy problem?

One of the tricky things is that the disambiguation or search page is
a signal that the referrer or some other previous page in the users
history is difficult to connect to some later page. When the number of
steps between the pages are increasing the problem of detecting the
relation increases exponentially. It is also worth noting that by only
using click events on the disambiguation page you will only discover
connections that are already present as links on the disambiguation
page.

On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote:
 Agreed. As a first step, if someone is interested in this and this
 doesn't go against our privacy policy it would be good to collect some
 link clicking data for various disambiguation pages to get an idea of
 whether the data created is meaningful and useful. Tyler's concerns
 are valid but we should clarify with some data rather than speculate
 to whether these are indeed concerns we need to worry about and
 whether this. EventLogging [1] could be used for this in my opinion
 using some simple javascript that hijacks links on the disambiguation
 page - looking at referrer and next page.

 In terms of analyzing the data you could then simply look at a sample
 of disambiguation pages and manually determine the accuracy of users
 picking the correct link.

 If the data does show promise it would then be an easy enough job to
 create a UI to use it and for editors to correct them.

 I don't currently have time to explore this but would like to in
 future but if anyone is interested please dive in...

 [1] https://mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:EventLogging

 On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 5:14 AM, C. Scott Ananian
 canan...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 Sounds like a disagreement that can be settled quantitatively. ;)
   --scott
 On Jul 17, 2013 5:03 AM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 4:42 AM, John Erling Blad jeb...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  It doesn't matter because the correct behavior will accumulate over
  time. You don't try to fix linkage just because you have one single
  observed behavior, you collect and correlate behavior over time and
  use several, perhaps hundreds of observations.
 

 I strongly doubt that the correct behavior will be prevalent enough to
 warrant using such an automatic system over just manually fixing
 disambiguation links, which can be done quite easily using automatic wiki
 browsers and the like.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Long term strategy for math on wikipedia

2013-07-18 Thread Quim Gil

On 07/18/2013 05:31 AM, MZMcBride wrote:

Peter Krautzberger wrote:

There have been a couple of conversations recently and I am hoping to
combine them into a discussion towards a long term strategy for math on
Wikipedia.


Hi.

This mailing list is good for discussion, but for long-term strategy, I
imagine you want an RFC: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/RFC.


Yesterday I recommended Peter to post here in this list.  :) I think it 
is good to test the waters and get a first round of feedback.


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Re: [Wikitech-l] Why isn't hotcat an extension?

2013-07-18 Thread Jean-Frédéric
2013/7/17 Yuvi Panda yuvipa...@gmail.com

 It's universally liked, is there almost on every wiki, and provides a
 much needed functionality.


Note that this might not be the same version: for example, the HotCatsMulti
[1] deployed on the French-language Wikipedia is a fork of the Commons
HotCat (from before it had multicategories support, ie a long time ago).

[1]  https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-HotCatsMulti.js 
 https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Projet:JavaScript/Notices/HotCatsMulti 
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit downtime - Thursday, July 18th

2013-07-18 Thread Chad
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi everyone,

 So, we've got a bad disk on the Gerrit box that needs to be swapped out.
 This is going to
 cause a little bit of downtime while we fix things up. Therefore, Gerrit
 will be unavailable on
 Thursday, July 18th (that's 2 days from now) starting at 14:00 UTC (10am
 EST, 7am PST)
 and going for 1 hour (until 15:00 UTC). Hopefully it won't take the full
 hour, but I'd like to be
 cautious :)

 If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them here or e-mail me
 privately.

 Thanks for your understanding!


Hardware work is done, and Gerrit is back up. Things might be a tad slower
than usual for a little bit while the disks get in sync, but nothing to
worry about.

Thanks again for your understanding everyone!

-Chad
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[Wikitech-l] Bugzilla administrator rights policy

2013-07-18 Thread Andre Klapper
Better late than never:

Recently, I've worked on a document to describe when it is necessary
for a user to have administrator rights in bugzilla.wikimedia.org. 
It affects a small number of Bugzilla users (less than 30) who were
contacted via email while drafting the policy.

The policy can be found at
https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Bugzilla_administrator_rights_policy

It was written in order to explain why a specific user needs to be an
administrator (or why it might not be needed).

Following the principle of least privilege, Bugzilla administrator
rights are only required for a small number of rather uncommon tasks,
with the one exception being editing Bugzilla user rights (if you want
to know more: these tasks are also listed in the policy).

A combination of other, more specific Bugzilla rights very often
allows executing the same tasks, so nobody will lose any ability to
perform tasks in Bugzilla that s/he could also perform before.

As usual, a list of current Bugzilla administrators can be found at
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/System_administrators#List

I'm happy to answer any questions that may arise (and that were not
already answered in
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2013-June/070062.html ).

Thanks,
andre
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Why isn't hotcat an extension?

2013-07-18 Thread Krinkle
On Jul 17, 2013, at 11:52 PM, Yuvi Panda yuvipa...@gmail.com wrote:

 It's universally liked, is there almost on every wiki, and provides a
 much needed functionality. Why isn't this deployed as an extension, or
 better yet - part of core, than as a gadget? Just a matter of someone
 to do the work?
 
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https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:InlineCategorizer

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Long term strategy for math on wikipedia

2013-07-18 Thread Risker
On 18 July 2013 08:10, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 On 07/18/2013 05:31 AM, MZMcBride wrote:

 Peter Krautzberger wrote:

 There have been a couple of conversations recently and I am hoping to
 combine them into a discussion towards a long term strategy for math on
 Wikipedia.


 Hi.

 This mailing list is good for discussion, but for long-term strategy, I
 imagine you want an RFC: 
 https://www.mediawiki.org/**wiki/RFChttps://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/RFC
 .


 Yesterday I recommended Peter to post here in this list.  :) I think it is
 good to test the waters and get a first round of feedback.


There is also some related discussion on the Flow portal.[1] It might be an
idea to pull all of this information together.

Risker

[1]
http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Flow_Portaloffset=20130718154450lqt_mustshow=30657#Maths_30340
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Long term strategy for math on wikipedia

2013-07-18 Thread Peter Krautzberger


  This mailing list is good for discussion, but for long-term strategy, I
  imagine you want an RFC: https://www.mediawiki.org/**wiki/RFC
 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/RFC
  .
 
 
  Yesterday I recommended Peter to post here in this list.  :) I think it
 is
  good to test the waters and get a first round of feedback.
 
 
 There is also some related discussion on the Flow portal.[1] It might be an
 idea to pull all of this information together.

 Risker

 [1]

 http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Flow_Portaloffset=20130718154450lqt_mustshow=30657#Maths_30340



Thanks for pointing out the Flow discussion.

I'd be happy to write an RFC.

Peter.
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Why isn't hotcat an extension?

2013-07-18 Thread MZMcBride
Tyler Romeo wrote:
Quick question, is there a way in the API (other than action=edit) to
add/remove categories from a page? Because that seems to be one of the
main things that would be holding this back from becoming an extension
proper.

In my view, this kind of misses the point entirely: if MediaWiki had a
proper API or UI for adding and removing categories (or other metadata), a
gadget like HotCat would be almost completely unnecessary. :-)  HotCat
exists to fill a void left by MediaWiki.

Those interested in this issue can copy themselves on this bug:
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27312.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Why isn't hotcat an extension?

2013-07-18 Thread Tyler Romeo
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 1:23 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:

 In my view, this kind of misses the point entirely: if MediaWiki had a
 proper API or UI for adding and removing categories (or other metadata), a
 gadget like HotCat would be almost completely unnecessary. :-)  HotCat
 exists to fill a void left by MediaWiki.

 Those interested in this issue can copy themselves on this bug:
 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27312.


Well I managed to make a quick script that can add/remove categories from
wikitext pages (I basically copy/pasted Parser::replaceInternalLinks2).
That way at least the category removal happens in PHP and not in
JavaScript.

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[Wikitech-l] Status of MediaWiki Release Management RFP

2013-07-18 Thread MZMcBride
Hi.

Is there a status update regarding the MediaWiki Release Management RFP?
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Release_Management_RFP#Timeline indicates
that the goal for an announcement was the second week of July.

Apologies in advance if I've simply overlooked an update (I briefly
checked my mail archives, but could only find a reference to July 8).

MZMcBride



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Re: [Wikitech-l] Status of MediaWiki Release Management RFP

2013-07-18 Thread Rob Lanphier
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 10:29 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:
 Is there a status update regarding the MediaWiki Release Management RFP?
 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Release_Management_RFP#Timeline indicates
 that the goal for an announcement was the second week of July.

Hi Mz,

I'll respond in Greg's absence today.  We're currently negotiating
this, and didn't want to announce anything until we have a
fully-executed agreement.  I imagine we'll be able to announce
something early next week when we've had more time to finish the
agreement, and Greg is feeling better.

Rob

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Why isn't hotcat an extension?

2013-07-18 Thread Antoine Musso
Le 18/07/13 19:23, MZMcBride a écrit :
 In my view, this kind of misses the point entirely: if MediaWiki had a
 proper API or UI for adding and removing categories (or other metadata), a
 gadget like HotCat would be almost completely unnecessary. :-)  HotCat
 exists to fill a void left by MediaWiki.

Lets move the categories in wikidata ? =)

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Why isn't hotcat an extension?

2013-07-18 Thread Tyler Romeo
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr wrote:

 Lets move the categories in wikidata ? =)


That'd be nice, but how much time would that take to develop?

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Why isn't hotcat an extension?

2013-07-18 Thread David Gerard
On 18 July 2013 22:07, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr wrote:

 Lets move the categories in wikidata ? =)

 That'd be nice, but how much time would that take to develop?


They're local to each wiki, but they should indeed be metadata.


- d.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Why isn't hotcat an extension?

2013-07-18 Thread Risker
On 18 July 2013 17:18, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 18 July 2013 22:07, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr
 wrote:

  Lets move the categories in wikidata ? =)

  That'd be nice, but how much time would that take to develop?


 They're local to each wiki, but they should indeed be metadata.


 -


What David said. I'm not sure that Wikidata is the right place for very
local issues (sockpuppet categories, for example).  There seems to be a
fairly significant variance between projects in how they categorize pages,
as well, particularly as we add sister projects to the mix.

Risker
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Why isn't hotcat an extension?

2013-07-18 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
On 07/18/2013 05:18 PM, David Gerard wrote:
 They're local to each wiki, but they should indeed be metadata.

Worf and Sapir would have a field day with that idea.  :-)

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Why isn't hotcat an extension?

2013-07-18 Thread Yuvi Panda
So, summarizing:

1. MarkTraceur (and the Multimedia Team) is working on a way to do
'beta experiments' on live wikis that do not involve things being left
to be Gadgets all the time. This can also eventually help 'promote'
gadgets into Extensions / Core.
2. Tyler is working on an Extension for this (or it might already
exist, as Krinkle pointed out)

So, is HotCat replacement extension going to plug into the Beta
Experiments thingy Mark is working on? I suppose there'll be docs on
that at some point of time...

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Why isn't hotcat an extension?

2013-07-18 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 07/18/2013 05:43 PM, Yuvi Panda wrote:
 So, is HotCat replacement extension going to plug into the Beta
 Experiments thingy Mark is working on? I suppose there'll be docs on
 that at some point of time...

There are some: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:BetaFeatures

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Why isn't hotcat an extension?

2013-07-18 Thread Tyler Romeo
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Yuvi Panda yuvipa...@gmail.com wrote:

 2. Tyler is working on an Extension for this (or it might already
 exist, as Krinkle pointed out)


I looked at the extension Krinkle pointed out, and it's similar to HotCat
in that it's completely JavaScript. I'm hoping to make an API module for
adding/removing categories (it won't be a redesign, it just moves the
parsing and removing logic to PHP), and then from there use JavaScript to
call that.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Why isn't hotcat an extension?

2013-07-18 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
Derk-Jan,

Thanks for that list; I know I'll be coming back to it as my team works
to reach out to gadget and userscript developers in the future.

-- 
Sumana Harihareswara
Engineering Community Manager
Wikimedia Foundation

On 07/17/2013 06:22 PM, Derk-Jan Hartman wrote:
 If people don't want to put their code through review this is scary to me
 
 They do get their code reviewed. The rules are however usually simple 'it 
 needs to work'. Not everyone has time to spend a gazillion hours on getting 
 familiar with git, gerrit, jshint, git-review, resourceloader, i18n, l10n, 
 the actual review lag, the deploy lag and I don't know what else.
 
 Some ppl just want to edit categories super fast NOW. That's how these tools 
 start and then these people are usually done. A bit of required maintenance, 
 but that's it, they are editing/reviewing/categorizing again. Look at 
 navpopups. With minor changes, that thing has been able to run basically 
 unsupervised since 2006 and it is one of the most popular tools.
 
 So people want to make extensions out of JS code, just do it, but some people 
 don't and you should respect that.
 
 To get what you want, you need:
 
 1: Flagged revisions/review for .css/.js wikipages
 2: CSS/JS editor for wikipage with JSHint integrated etc integrated
 3: i18n support for gadgets.
 4: Global repositories for gadgets
 5: Integrated versioning and updating for 'installed' scripts
 6: Autogenerated documentation
 
 Then ppl will come flocking.
 
 DJ
 
 On 18 jul. 2013, at 00:08, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'd really like to see a review process where Gadgets move from Gadget
 status to core. To me a Gadget is a great way to explore a new type of
 functionality and prove it's worth but it comes with a cost - it's
 very difficult to ensure a Gadget doesn't breaking with core changes
 or with the installation of some other extension/gadget. I can imagine
 this would also be the developer equivalent of a barn star - such a
 promotion I'd hope would be very flattering to authors and would
 encourage Gadget writing and innovation. Likewise if a gadget is not
 being used we should not leave it install on a wiki.

 If people don't want to put their code through review this is scary to
 me - surely the standards of any code we put out to users should be of
 the highest quality..? We should not be scared of code review and see
 it as a positive thing that builds our knowledge up and makes us be
 the best we possibly can. If this is seen as a bad thing we really
 need to ask ourselves questions about the review process.

 If people are scared of using Gerrit/Git we should create nicer
 interfaces into it.. no?

 (Note for those not familiar with what HotCat is:
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:HotCat)

 On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Yuvi Panda yuvipa...@gmail.com wrote:
 It's universally liked, is there almost on every wiki, and provides a
 much needed functionality. Why isn't this deployed as an extension, or
 better yet - part of core, than as a gadget? Just a matter of someone
 to do the work?

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Why isn't hotcat an extension?

2013-07-18 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 07/17/2013 06:25 PM, Jon Robson wrote:
 This seems like a bad habit to have got ourselves into... All it
 takes is a trailing comma somewhere and a gadget could take out a
 whole browser.

Browsers should not crash due buggy JavaScript.  It happens, but in my
experience it's not as common as people think.

More importantly, all it takes is one trivial edit to disable a broken
gadget.

 I'm not disagreeing that this workflow gets results - it obviously does - but
 I think we should be striving to identify good Gadgets and giving
 them love and attention for the good of everyone.

I completely agree that there are gadgets that could beneficially be
made into extensions or (at least partly) moved to core.  And a lot of
gadgets could certainly benefit from modernization.

But I don't think we should act like gadgets are a bad thing, merely
because they aren't written the same way an extension or core is.

We do need to ensure gadgets are secure and useful.  But there's a clear
benefit to the way they're developed with fewer constraints, both for
experimentation and for local wiki flexibility (flexibility which
everyone, including the WMF, has benefited from).

Speaking as a long-time Wikipedian, gadget developer, constant user of
useful gadgets (from Navigation popups to Hotcat and more), and now WMF
software engineer.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Why isn't hotcat an extension?

2013-07-18 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 07/18/2013 06:00 PM, Tyler Romeo wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Yuvi Panda yuvipa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 2. Tyler is working on an Extension for this (or it might already
 exist, as Krinkle pointed out)

 
 I looked at the extension Krinkle pointed out, and it's similar to HotCat
 in that it's completely JavaScript. I'm hoping to make an API module for
 adding/removing categories (it won't be a redesign, it just moves the
 parsing and removing logic to PHP), and then from there use JavaScript to
 call that.

You should consider putting the API module in core, since other projects
(including Mobile) have had demand for it.

Matt Flaschen


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Re: [Wikitech-l] Why isn't hotcat an extension?

2013-07-18 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 07/18/2013 04:04 PM, Antoine Musso wrote:
 Le 18/07/13 19:23, MZMcBride a écrit :
 In my view, this kind of misses the point entirely: if MediaWiki had a
 proper API or UI for adding and removing categories (or other metadata), a
 gadget like HotCat would be almost completely unnecessary. :-)  HotCat
 exists to fill a void left by MediaWiki.
 
 Lets move the categories in wikidata ? =)

Not all data fits the Wikidata data model in a clear way, and categories
are probably best kept local for now.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Why isn't hotcat an extension?

2013-07-18 Thread Yuvi Panda
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 4:08 AM, Matthew Flaschen
mflasc...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 You should consider putting the API module in core, since other projects
 (including Mobile) have had demand for it.

+1.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Why isn't hotcat an extension?

2013-07-18 Thread Tyler Romeo
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 6:38 PM, Matthew Flaschen
mflasc...@wikimedia.orgwrote:

 You should consider putting the API module in core, since other projects
 (including Mobile) have had demand for it.


Will do.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Long term strategy for math on wikipedia

2013-07-18 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 07/18/2013 12:52 PM, Peter Krautzberger wrote:
 I'd be happy to write an RFC.

That's an option, but it's perfectly reasonable if you want to talk it
out more and let it crystallize some.

Matt Flaschen


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Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: Scoping site CSS

2013-07-18 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 07/17/2013 05:59 PM, Yuvi Panda wrote:
 Yay! I see several good things that could come out of this, but to
 prevent pitchforks and misunderstandings, I think this RFC should be
 split some more.
 
 So ideally, this should be split into multiple RFCs. The ones I can
 think of, so far:
 
 1. LESS support for RL.

Note, there are bugs for both LESS
(https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40964) and Sass
(https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46545) integration for
ResourceLoader.

Matt Flaschen


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Re: [Wikitech-l] Why isn't hotcat an extension?

2013-07-18 Thread Helder .
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 7:22 PM, Derk-Jan Hartman
d.j.hartman+wmf...@gmail.com wrote:
...
 To get what you want, you need:
...
 3: i18n support for gadgets.
 4: Global repositories for gadgets
aka https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gadgets_2.0

 6: Autogenerated documentation
See also:
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2013-January/065751.html

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