Re: [Wikitech-l] PHP new version(s) 5.5.7 and other versions. (upgrade, if you can)

[K. Peachey]

Who? What? When? Where? Why?


On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Thomas Gries  wrote:

> PHP users are strongly advised to upgrade their PHP versions:
> PHP 4.0.6 - PHP 4.4.9
> PHP 5.0.x
> PHP 5.1.x
> PHP 5.2.x
> PHP 5.3.0 - PHP 5.3.27
> PHP 5.4.0 - PHP 5.4.22
> PHP 5.5.0 - PHP 5.5.6
> Vendor Status: Vendor has released PHP 5.5.7, PHP 5.4.23 and PHP 5.3.28|.||
>
>
> If you compile PHP from its sources, then the following "configure"
> works well:
> |
> |./configure --prefix=/usr --datadir=/usr/share/php
> --mandir=/usr/share/man --bindir=/usr/bin --libdir=/usr/share
> --includedir=/usr/include --sysconfdir=/etc --with-libdir=lib64
> --with-config-file-path=/etc --with-apxs2=/usr/sbin/apxs2-prefork
> --with-openssl --with-bz2 --with-zlib --with-curl --with-ldap
> --with-mysql --with-mysqli=mysqlnd  --with-pdo-mysql --enable-mbstring
> --with-xsl --enable-calendar --with-gd --with-jpeg-dir=/usr/lib64
> --with-png-dir=/usr/lib64 --with-iconv --with-pspell --with-gmp
> --with-mcrypt --enable-zip --enable-bcmath
> make
> make install
>
>
> |
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Re: [Wikitech-l] PHP new version(s) 5.5.7 and other versions. (upgrade, if you can)

[Arcane 21]

I've tried PHP 5.5.0, had to go back to PHP 4.4.9 due to issues with deleting 
and moving pages in MediaWiki.

> From: p858sn...@gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 19:08:24 +1000
> To: wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] PHP new version(s) 5.5.7 and other versions. 
> (upgrade, if you can)
> 
> Who? What? When? Where? Why?
> 
> 
> On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Thomas Gries  wrote:
> 
> > PHP users are strongly advised to upgrade their PHP versions:
> > PHP 4.0.6 - PHP 4.4.9
> > PHP 5.0.x
> > PHP 5.1.x
> > PHP 5.2.x
> > PHP 5.3.0 - PHP 5.3.27
> > PHP 5.4.0 - PHP 5.4.22
> > PHP 5.5.0 - PHP 5.5.6
> > Vendor Status: Vendor has released PHP 5.5.7, PHP 5.4.23 and PHP 5.3.28|.||
> >
> >
> > If you compile PHP from its sources, then the following "configure"
> > works well:
> > |
> > |./configure --prefix=/usr --datadir=/usr/share/php
> > --mandir=/usr/share/man --bindir=/usr/bin --libdir=/usr/share
> > --includedir=/usr/include --sysconfdir=/etc --with-libdir=lib64
> > --with-config-file-path=/etc --with-apxs2=/usr/sbin/apxs2-prefork
> > --with-openssl --with-bz2 --with-zlib --with-curl --with-ldap
> > --with-mysql --with-mysqli=mysqlnd  --with-pdo-mysql --enable-mbstring
> > --with-xsl --enable-calendar --with-gd --with-jpeg-dir=/usr/lib64
> > --with-png-dir=/usr/lib64 --with-iconv --with-pspell --with-gmp
> > --with-mcrypt --enable-zip --enable-bcmath
> > make
> > make install
> >
> >
> > |
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Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Homepage Redesign

[Brena Monteiro]

Like Quim said, right now we are preparing the Design Document[1] and all
collaboration is welcome.

Best regards,

[1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Monteirobrena/OPW/Design_Document

Brena Monteiro
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Re: [Wikitech-l] what should i publish a gadget extension?

[Gryllida]

Wiked lives in [[extension:wiked]] on meta; hotcat lives in 
[[mediawiki:gadget-hotcat.js]] on commons. Ok. There is no standard place 
really; use github or your preferred host, and if mediawiku devs or wikimedia 
users are interested, they will use it and send patches or feedback.

gry

On Sun, 15 Dec 2013, at 20:42, Sen wrote:
> i make a gadget called hotkeyedit,which i add some hotkey in the 
> wikitextbox,like control+1-6 make the title,ctrl+s switch the lish..ctrl+[ 
> add a category,i think if i public it maybe some one others will like it,but 
> i know how to publish extension,but how is gadget.
> 
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> Regrades
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> From SLboat(http://see.sl088.com)
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Re: [Wikitech-l] PHP new version(s) 5.5.7 and other versions. (upgrade, if you can)

[Tyler Romeo]

On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 7:08 AM, Arcane 21  wrote:

> I've tried PHP 5.5.0, had to go back to PHP 4.4.9 due to issues with
> deleting and moving pages in MediaWiki.


Is there a bug filed for this. If not please do so. MediaWiki should be
compatible with newer PHP versions.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] PHP new version(s) 5.5.7 and other versions. (upgrade, if you can)

[Arcane 21]

Thanks for the suggestion Tyler, I'll be sure to file a report.

> From: tylerro...@gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 07:58:38 -0500
> To: wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] PHP new version(s) 5.5.7 and other versions. 
> (upgrade, if you can)
> 
> On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 7:08 AM, Arcane 21  wrote:
> 
> > I've tried PHP 5.5.0, had to go back to PHP 4.4.9 due to issues with
> > deleting and moving pages in MediaWiki.
> 
> 
> Is there a bug filed for this. If not please do so. MediaWiki should be
> compatible with newer PHP versions.
> 
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Google Code-in update

[Quim Gil]

Google Code-in: 4 weeks past, 3 weeks to go.

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Google_Code-In

We have 133 tasks completed, 20 in progress, and 37 open. These numbers
are more relaxed than in previous weeks:

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_at_Google_Code-in_2013.png

This is due to two factors:

* students are busier than usual at school, finishing evaluations and
assignments before holidays
* some mentors are being very effective relying on types of tasks that
are easy to clone, like porting functionality from PyWikiBot compat to
core, fixing internationalization problems in MediaWiki,
internationalizing MediaWiki documentation, providing SVG versions of
Wikimedia logos, or adding template data for VisualEditor.

The activity is expected to increase again this weekend, and keep being
high until the end of the program on January 6. Also most mentors will
have some days of vacation, which might affect our capacity to mentor
students and review tasks.

This week I will ping directly all the mentors that haven't got involved
at this stage, asking them to take care of at least one task at a time.
This isn't much work for one person, and is the ultimate trick to keep
the program going in the last 3 weeks.

Thank you again for your attention and your help.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Homepage Redesign

[Isarra Yos]

On 16/12/13 12:14, Brena Monteiro wrote:

Like Quim said, right now we are preparing the Design Document[1] and all
collaboration is welcome.

Best regards,

[1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Monteirobrena/OPW/Design_Document

Brena Monteiro
+55 27 98109 0123
@monteirobrena 
Reflexões Brenianas 



I apologise if I'm being daft here, but why exactly is a design document 
needed for this (or for)? It is good that you're working on it, of 
course, but I'm also a bit confused.


-I

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Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Homepage Redesign

[Brandon Harris]

A) it's a good exercise to learn with;
B) it's good practice to make them for all projects, regardless of size, I only 
to help solidify one's thinking.  

We should do LESS designing in code, not more. 

Snt frm my iPhne

> On Dec 16, 2013, at 10:44 AM, Isarra Yos  wrote:
> 
>> On 16/12/13 12:14, Brena Monteiro wrote:
>> Like Quim said, right now we are preparing the Design Document[1] and all
>> collaboration is welcome.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Monteirobrena/OPW/Design_Document
>> 
>> Brena Monteiro
>> +55 27 98109 0123
>> @monteirobrena 
>> Reflexões Brenianas 
> 
> I apologise if I'm being daft here, but why exactly is a design document 
> needed for this (or for)? It is good that you're working on it, of course, 
> but I'm also a bit confused.
> 
> -I
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Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Homepage Redesign

[Chad]

On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Isarra Yos  wrote:

> On 16/12/13 12:14, Brena Monteiro wrote:
>
>> Like Quim said, right now we are preparing the Design Document[1] and all
>> collaboration is welcome.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Monteirobrena/OPW/Design_Document
>>
>> Brena Monteiro
>> +55 27 98109 0123
>> @monteirobrena 
>> Reflexões Brenianas 
>>
>>
> I apologise if I'm being daft here, but why exactly is a design document
> needed for this (or for)? It is good that you're working on it, of course,
> but I'm also a bit confused.


I'm not sure either. I'd rather just see bold edits to the homepage
that make it look nicer.

This is a content thing, not a software design thing imho.

If interested users can't edit the homepage on mw.org, we can
fix that easily too.

-Chad
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Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Homepage Redesign

[Isarra Yos]

But what makes it good? What does 'solidify thinking' mean?

-I

On 16/12/13 18:54, Brandon Harris wrote:

A) it's a good exercise to learn with;
B) it's good practice to make them for all projects, regardless of size, I only 
to help solidify one's thinking.

We should do LESS designing in code, not more.

Snt frm my iPhne


On Dec 16, 2013, at 10:44 AM, Isarra Yos  wrote:


On 16/12/13 12:14, Brena Monteiro wrote:
Like Quim said, right now we are preparing the Design Document[1] and all
collaboration is welcome.

Best regards,

[1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Monteirobrena/OPW/Design_Document

Brena Monteiro
+55 27 98109 0123
@monteirobrena 
Reflexões Brenianas 

I apologise if I'm being daft here, but why exactly is a design document needed 
for this (or for)? It is good that you're working on it, of course, but I'm 
also a bit confused.

-I

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Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Homepage Redesign

[Brena Monteiro]

Yes! That's the idea. Identify what content is fundamental to put on the
homepage. Some people agreed that the contents of the homepage needs to be
directed to new users. And I wonder:

Which content will do new users love MediaWiki? Or what will arouse
interest in using and contribute immediately?

Regards,

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Re: [Wikitech-l] PHP new version(s) 5.5.7 and other versions. (upgrade, if you can)

[Thomas Gries]

Am 16.12.2013 13:08, schrieb Arcane 21:
> I've tried PHP 5.5.0, had to go back to PHP 4.4.9 due to issues with deleting 
> and moving pages in MediaWiki.

We need more details. Which version of MediaWiki do you use ?
I never encountered any problems with the latest PHP versions
5.5.0...5.5.7 and latest MediaWiki core.


If you compile PHP from its sources, then the following "configure"
works well:
./configure --prefix=/usr --datadir=/usr/share/php
--mandir=/usr/share/man --bindir=/usr/bin --libdir=/usr/share
--includedir=/usr/include --sysconfdir=/etc --with-libdir=lib64
--with-config-file-path=/etc --with-apxs2=/usr/sbin/apxs2-prefork
--with-openssl --with-bz2 --with-zlib --with-curl --with-ldap
--with-mysql --with-mysqli=mysqlnd  --with-pdo-mysql --enable-mbstring
--with-xsl --enable-calendar --with-gd --with-jpeg-dir=/usr/lib64
--with-png-dir=/usr/lib64 --with-iconv --with-pspell --with-gmp
--with-mcrypt --enable-zip --enable-bcmath
make
make install




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Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Homepage Redesign

[Quim Gil]

On 12/16/2013 10:59 AM, Chad wrote:
> I'm not sure either. I'd rather just see bold edits to the homepage
> that make it look nicer.
> 
> This is a content thing, not a software design thing imho.
> 
> If interested users can't edit the homepage on mw.org, we can
> fix that easily too.

"make it look nicer", heh. :)  The mediawiki.org homepage needs more
than that.

When you want to improve something complex, it is good to know what you
want to improve, why, and how. Brena is working on the answers to these
basic questions in order to propose a plan. Bold edits might lead you to
a good solution by chance, but the chances of failing, delaying, and
wasting energy unnecessarily are high.

From a technical point of view, bold edits are not that simple in a
homepage that is pulling 35 templates, 21 of them exclusive to
Main_page. Any significant change probably involves editing/creating
wikitext, graphics, HTML, and CSS sitting in different places. I'm not a
designer, but as a content editor I would also welcome a plan agreed
before jumping there.

From a social point of view, bold edits to the homepage of a popular
community site are only productive when you know where you are heading,
the community is aware as well, and there is consensus. The chances of
someone asking 'Why are you doing this?' before reverting are just too
high, unless you limit yourself to polish non-challenging details.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] PHP new version(s) 5.5.7 and other versions. (upgrade, if you can)

[Arcane 21]

I submitted a bug report describing the problem in more details on the 
Wikimedia Bugzilla, but short version is that when deleting or moving multiple 
pages at once, I experienced severe server lag and timeouts, and the job queue 
seemed to process the requests in PHP very slowly in PHP 5.5.0. I rolled back 
to 5.4, and it's working fine.

More details can be found on the bug report I submitted on Bugzilla.

> Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 23:36:17 +0100
> From: m...@tgries.de
> To: wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] PHP new version(s) 5.5.7 and other versions. 
> (upgrade, if you can)
> 
> Am 16.12.2013 13:08, schrieb Arcane 21:
> > I've tried PHP 5.5.0, had to go back to PHP 4.4.9 due to issues with 
> > deleting and moving pages in MediaWiki.
> 
> We need more details. Which version of MediaWiki do you use ?
> I never encountered any problems with the latest PHP versions
> 5.5.0...5.5.7 and latest MediaWiki core.
> 
> 
> If you compile PHP from its sources, then the following "configure"
> works well:
> ./configure --prefix=/usr --datadir=/usr/share/php
> --mandir=/usr/share/man --bindir=/usr/bin --libdir=/usr/share
> --includedir=/usr/include --sysconfdir=/etc --with-libdir=lib64
> --with-config-file-path=/etc --with-apxs2=/usr/sbin/apxs2-prefork
> --with-openssl --with-bz2 --with-zlib --with-curl --with-ldap
> --with-mysql --with-mysqli=mysqlnd  --with-pdo-mysql --enable-mbstring
> --with-xsl --enable-calendar --with-gd --with-jpeg-dir=/usr/lib64
> --with-png-dir=/usr/lib64 --with-iconv --with-pspell --with-gmp
> --with-mcrypt --enable-zip --enable-bcmath
> make
> make install
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Wikitech-l] PHP new version(s) 5.5.7 and other versions. (upgrade, if you can)

[Tyler Romeo]

On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 6:54 PM, Arcane 21  wrote:

> More details can be found on the bug report I submitted on Bugzilla.


For those wondering, it is filed under bug 58532.

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58532

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