[Wikitech-l] ARM servers

2014-01-12 Thread James Salsman
Nicolas Charbonnier's Latest ARM Server solutions booths tour may be
of some interest for those of you interested in low power server
hardware:

http://armdevices.net/2013/12/30/latest-arm-server-solutions-booths-tour/

Mitac isn't represented there, but he did an interview of them a year
and a half ago:

http://armdevices.net/2012/06/07/mitac-gfx-arm-server/

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Re: [Wikitech-l] ARM servers

2014-01-12 Thread Eugene Zelenko
Hi!

ARM servers is definitely worth to look at, but please be aware that
technology is not mainstream and sad things may happens:
http://calxeda.com (one of exhibitors of ARM TechCon).

OS support if not mature yet, especially for ARMv8 (64 bit).

Eugene.

On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 1:05 AM, James Salsman jsals...@gmail.com wrote:
 Nicolas Charbonnier's Latest ARM Server solutions booths tour may be
 of some interest for those of you interested in low power server
 hardware:

 http://armdevices.net/2013/12/30/latest-arm-server-solutions-booths-tour/

 Mitac isn't represented there, but he did an interview of them a year
 and a half ago:

 http://armdevices.net/2012/06/07/mitac-gfx-arm-server/

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Jake requests enabling access and edit access to Wikipedia via TOR

2014-01-12 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 1:08 AM, Martijn Hoekstra
martijnhoeks...@gmail.com wrote:
 Does Jake have any mechanism in mind to prevent abuse? Is there any
 possible mechanism available to prevent abuse?

Preventing abuse is the wrong goal. There is plenty of abuse even
with all the privacy smashing new editor deterring convolutions that
we can think up.  Abuse is part of the cost of doing business of
operating a publicly editable Wiki, it's a cost which is normally well
worth its benefits.

The goal needs to merely be to limit the abuse enough so as not to
upset the abuse vs benefit equation. Today, people abuse, they get
blocked, they go to another library/coffee shop/find another
proxy/wash rinse repeat.  We can't do any better than that model, and
it turns out that it's okay.  If a solution for tor users results in a
cost cost (time, money, whatever unit of payment is being expended)
for repeated abuse comparable to the other ways abusive people access
the site then it should not be a major source of trouble which
outweighs the benefits. (Even if you do not value freedom of
expression and association for people in less free parts of the world
at all).

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Jake requests enabling access and edit access to Wikipedia via TOR

2014-01-12 Thread Jasper Deng
This question is analogous to the question of open proxies. The answer has
universally been that the costs (abuse) are just too high.

However, we might consider doing what the freenode IRC network does.
Freenode requires SASL authentication to connect on Tor, which basically
means only users with registered accounts can use it. The main reason for
hardblocking and not allowing registered accounts on-wiki via Tor is that
CheckUsers need useful IP data. But it might be feasible if we just force
all account creation to happen on real IPs, although that still hides
some data from CheckUsers.

On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 1:08 AM, Martijn Hoekstra
 martijnhoeks...@gmail.com wrote:
  Does Jake have any mechanism in mind to prevent abuse? Is there any
  possible mechanism available to prevent abuse?

 Preventing abuse is the wrong goal. There is plenty of abuse even
 with all the privacy smashing new editor deterring convolutions that
 we can think up.  Abuse is part of the cost of doing business of
 operating a publicly editable Wiki, it's a cost which is normally well
 worth its benefits.

 The goal needs to merely be to limit the abuse enough so as not to
 upset the abuse vs benefit equation. Today, people abuse, they get
 blocked, they go to another library/coffee shop/find another
 proxy/wash rinse repeat.  We can't do any better than that model, and
 it turns out that it's okay.  If a solution for tor users results in a
 cost cost (time, money, whatever unit of payment is being expended)
 for repeated abuse comparable to the other ways abusive people access
 the site then it should not be a major source of trouble which
 outweighs the benefits. (Even if you do not value freedom of
 expression and association for people in less free parts of the world
 at all).

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[Wikitech-l] Bugzilla Weekly Report

2014-01-12 Thread reporter
MediaWiki Bugzilla Report for January 06, 2014 - January 13, 2014

Status changes this week

Reports changed/set to UNCONFIRMED:  6 
Reports changed/set to NEW:  21
Reports changed/set to ASSIGNED   :  22
Reports changed/set to REOPENED   :  15
Reports changed/set to PATCH_TO_RE:  91
Reports changed/set to RESOLVED   :  240   
Reports changed/set to VERIFIED   :  23

Total reports still open  : 13621 
Total bugs still open : 7962  
Total non-lowest prio. bugs still open: 7749  
Total enhancements still open : 5659  

Reports created this week: 282   

Resolutions for the week:

Reports marked FIXED :  172   
Reports marked DUPLICATE :  22
Reports marked INVALID   :  14
Reports marked WORKSFORME:  18
Reports marked WONTFIX   :  11

Specific Product/Component Resolutions  User Metrics 

Created reports per component

MediaWiki extensions  Flow  26  
  
VisualEditor  General   11  
  
VisualEditor  Editing Tools 10  
  
MediaWiki General/Unknown   9   
  
MediaWiki extensions  MobileFrontend9   
  

Created reports per product

MediaWiki extensions  111   
Wikimedia 51
MediaWiki 43
VisualEditor  25
Wikimedia Labs12

Top 5 bug report closers

jrobson [AT] wikimedia.org21
aklapper [AT] wikimedia.org   19
mpinchuk [AT] wikimedia.org   11
matma.rex [AT] gmail.com  10
lydia.pintscher [AT] wikimedia9 


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  | Summary  
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acs[AT]bitergia.com  | Metrics about contributors with +2 pe

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wikibugs-l[AT]lists. | [Regression]: mediawiki.notification:

MediaWiki ext | CentralAuth   | 54195 | Highest   | 2013-12-30 | 
csteipp[AT]wikimedia | CentralAuth not caching Special:Centr

MediaWiki ext | Diff  | 58274 | Highest   | 2013-12-10 | 
wikibugs-l[AT]lists. | Implement an order-aware MapDiffer   

MediaWiki ext | Echo  | 53569 | Highest   | 2013-12-18 | 
wikibugs-l[AT]lists. | [Regression] Echo: Sending 2 e-mails 

MediaWiki ext | Flow  | 58016 | Highest   | 2013-12-31 | 
wikibugs-l[AT]lists. | Flow: Suppression redacts the wrong u

MediaWiki ext | WikidataRepo  | 52385 | Highest   | 2013-12-04 | 
wikidata-bugs[AT]lis | Query by one property and one value (

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wikidata-bugs[AT]lis | label/description uniqueness constrai

MediaWiki ext | WikidataRepo  | 57918 | Highest   | 2013-12-10 | 
wikidata-bugs[AT]lis | show diffs for sorting changes   

MediaWiki ext | WikidataRepo  | 58394 | Highest   | 2014-01-09 | 
wikidata-bugs[AT]lis | specified index out of bounds issue

MediaWiki ext | WikidataRepo  | 58850 | Highest   | 2014-01-11 | 
wikidata-bugs[AT]lis | wbmergeitems isn't merging claims pro

VisualEditor  | Editing Tools | 50768 | Highest   | 2013-12-16 | 
rmoen[AT]wikimedia.o | VisualEditor: Better reference UI for

VisualEditor  | General   | 53093 | Highest   | 2014-01-05 | 
jforrester[AT]wikime | VisualEditor: Error: Unknown error 

VisualEditor  | MediaWiki int | 48429 | Highest   | 2014-01-08 | 
krinklemail[AT]gmail | VisualEditor: Support editing of sect

Wikimedia | Apache config | 31369 | Highest   | 2013-12-10 | 
tstarling[AT]wikimed | Non-canonical HTTPS URLs quietly redi

Wikimedia | Continuous in | 59935 | Highest   | 2014-01-12 | 
hashar[AT]free.fr| Jenkins: Zuul is consistently losing 

Wikimedia | Git/Gerrit| 49846 | Highest   | 2014-01-08 | 
innocentkiller[AT]gm | mediawiki/extensions.git does not upd

Wikimedia Lab | Infrastructur | 48501 | Highest   | 2013-12-20 | 
greg[AT]wikimedia.or | beta: Get SSL certificates for *.{pro



Re: [Wikitech-l] Jake requests enabling access and edit access to Wikipedia via TOR

2014-01-12 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 6:36 PM, Jasper Deng jas...@jasperswebsite.com wrote:
 This question is analogous to the question of open proxies. The answer has
 universally been that the costs (abuse) are just too high.

No, it's not analogous to just permitting open proxies as no one in
this thread is suggesting just flipping it on.

I proposed issuing blind exemption tokens up-thread as an example
mechanism which would preserve the rate limiting of abusive use
without removing privacy.

 However, we might consider doing what the freenode IRC network does.
 Freenode requires SASL authentication to connect on Tor, which basically
 means only users with registered accounts can use it. The main reason for
 hardblocking and not allowing registered accounts on-wiki via Tor is that
 CheckUsers need useful IP data. But it might be feasible if we just force
 all account creation to happen on real IPs, although that still hides
 some data from CheckUsers.

What freenode does is not functionally useful for Tor users. In my
first hand experience it manages to enable abusive activity while
simultaneously eliminating Tor's usefulness at protecting its users.

The only value it provides is providing a pretext of tor support
without actually doing something good... and we already have the you
can get an IPblock-exempt (except you can't really, and if you do
it'll get randomly revoked. if all we want is a pretext. :)

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Jake requests enabling access and edit access to Wikipedia via TOR

2014-01-12 Thread Gryllida
On Mon, 13 Jan 2014, at 15:29, Gregory Maxwell wrote:
 On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 6:36 PM, Jasper Deng jas...@jasperswebsite.com 
 wrote:
  This question is analogous to the question of open proxies. The answer has
  universally been that the costs (abuse) are just too high.
 
 No, it's not analogous to just permitting open proxies as no one in
 this thread is suggesting just flipping it on.
 
 I proposed issuing blind exemption tokens up-thread as an example
 mechanism which would preserve the rate limiting of abusive use
 without removing privacy.
 
  However, we might consider doing what the freenode IRC network does.
  Freenode requires SASL authentication to connect on Tor, which basically
  means only users with registered accounts can use it. The main reason for
  hardblocking and not allowing registered accounts on-wiki via Tor is that
  CheckUsers need useful IP data. But it might be feasible if we just force
  all account creation to happen on real IPs, although that still hides
  some data from CheckUsers.
 
 What freenode does is not functionally useful for Tor users. In my
 first hand experience it manages to enable abusive activity while
 simultaneously eliminating Tor's usefulness at protecting its users.
 
 The only value it provides is providing a pretext of tor support
 without actually doing something good... and we already have the you
 can get an IPblock-exempt (except you can't really, and if you do
 it'll get randomly revoked. if all we want is a pretext. :)

The register at real IP, then only use TOR through an account flow implies 
trust in some entity (such as freenode irc network opers or Wikipedia 
CheckUsers). I currently believe that requiring such trust doesn't eliminate 
TOR's usefullness at protecting its users.

  Gryllida

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[Wikitech-l] Want to Contribute

2014-01-12 Thread vaibhav gupta
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Please guide me how to get started asap.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikitech-l Digest, Vol 126, Issue 18

2014-01-12 Thread indianayubi
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Nicolas Charbonnier's Latest ARM Server solutions booths tour may be
of some interest for those of you interested in low power server
hardware:

http://armdevices.net/2013/12/30/latest-arm-server-solutions-booths-tour/

Mitac isn't represented there, but he did an interview of them a year
and a half ago:

http://armdevices.net/2012/06/07/mitac-gfx-arm-server/



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