Re: [Wikitech-l] Dynamic search results as category pages

2014-01-26 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi,
Did you consider the use of Wikidata in stead of SMW? It should not only
indicate all the articles that have the appropriate statements but also the
articles written in other languages.
Thanks,
 GerardM


On 26 January 2014 03:25, Yuri Astrakhan yastrak...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Of course - I am actually modeling this feature on Semantic MW. It's just
 that I doubt WMF will enable SMW on the cluster any time soon :)


 On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Jamie Thingelstad ja...@thingelstad.com
 wrote:

  You could do something exactly like this very, very easily using Semantic
  MediaWiki and Concepts.
  Jamie Thingelstad
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  On Jan 24, 2014, at 9:55 AM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   On Jan 24, 2014 1:54 AM, Yuri Astrakhan yastrak...@wikimedia.org
  wrote:
  
   Hi, I am thinking of implementing a
  
   #CATQUERY query
  
   magic keyword for the category pages.
  
   When this keyword is present, the category page would execute a query
   against the search backend instead of normal category behavior and
 show
   result as if those pages were actually marked with this category.
  
   For example, this would allow Greek Philosophers category page to be
   quickly redefined as
   a cross-section of greeks  philosophers categories:
  
   #CATQUERY incategory:Greek incategory:Philosopher
  
   Obviously the community will be able to define much more elaborate
   queries,
   including the ordering (will be supported by the new search backend)
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   I like the idea in principle, but think the syntax could use
  bikeshedding ;)
  
   If we use this as category pages, im a little worried that people could
  get
   confused and try to add [[category:Greek philosophers]] to a page, and
   expect it to work. We would need good error handling in that situation
  
   including the ordering (will be supported by the new search backend)
  
   Cool. I didnt realize search would support this. That's a pretty big
 deal
   since people expect there categorirs alphabetized.
  
   Another cool project would be to expand intersection/Dyanamic Page List
   (Wikimedia) to be able to use search as a different backend (however,
  that
   extension would need quite a bit of refactoring to get there)
  
   -bawolff
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Let's improve our password policy

2014-01-26 Thread Gryllida
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014, at 0:02, rupert THURNER wrote:
 for the password policy: display a strength indicator is great. anything
 more? i would say just leave it to the user.
 
 rupert.

THANK YOU. My thoughts exactly. :-)

Everyone who has a thought should write it on-wiki for these people to hear you 
without manually scanning a mailing list. Thanks.

  gry

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Dynamic search results as category pages

2014-01-26 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Yuri Astrakhan
yastrak...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 Hi, I am thinking of implementing a

 #CATQUERY query

 magic keyword for the category pages.

 When this keyword is present, the category page would execute a query
 against the search backend instead of normal category behavior and show
 result as if those pages were actually marked with this category.

 For example, this would allow Greek Philosophers category page to be
 quickly redefined as
 a cross-section of greeks  philosophers categories:

 #CATQUERY incategory:Greek incategory:Philosopher

 Obviously the community will be able to define much more elaborate queries,
 including the ordering (will be supported by the new search backend)

In the future this will be possible using Wikidata and queries. My
dream is that categories will to a very large extend go away then and
be replaced with better Wikidata-based tools. I'd _really_ like us not
to introduce more incentives to use categories like this one. Also
it'd be quite a source for confusion to have both.


Cheers
Lydia

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Dynamic search results as category pages

2014-01-26 Thread Helder .
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 12:25 AM, Yuri Astrakhan
yastrak...@wikimedia.orgwrote:

 Of course - I am actually modeling this feature on Semantic MW. It's just
 that I doubt WMF will enable SMW on the cluster any time soon :)


That request was already WONTFIXed:
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8390

Helder
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Dynamic search results as category pages

2014-01-26 Thread Bartosz Dziewoński

I have a vague feeling that a very similar proposal appeared on this very list 
a few months ago. (No links handy, though.)

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Dynamic search results as category pages

2014-01-26 Thread Brian Wolff
On Jan 26, 2014 10:02 AM, Bartosz Dziewoński matma@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a vague feeling that a very similar proposal appeared on this very
list a few months ago. (No links handy, though.)

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Category intersection proposals seem to appear on this list about once
every 2 years as far as i remember. Usually they dont succede because
nobody ends up writing any efficient code to implement it.

-bawolff
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Dynamic search results as category pages

2014-01-26 Thread Gryllida
http://migadv.com/ comes to mind 
(https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/MediaWiki_data_browser) but sadly 
it's barely interactive...

  gry

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[Wikitech-l] Bugzilla Weekly Report

2014-01-26 Thread reporter
MediaWiki Bugzilla Report for January 20, 2014 - January 27, 2014

Status changes this week

Reports changed/set to UNCONFIRMED:  7 
Reports changed/set to NEW:  30
Reports changed/set to ASSIGNED   :  36
Reports changed/set to REOPENED   :  11
Reports changed/set to PATCH_TO_RE:  66
Reports changed/set to RESOLVED   :  157   
Reports changed/set to VERIFIED   :  20

Total reports still open  : 13739 
Total bugs still open : 8006  
Total non-lowest prio. bugs still open: 7797  
Total enhancements still open : 5733  

Reports created this week: 211   

Resolutions for the week:

Reports marked FIXED :  112   
Reports marked DUPLICATE :  15
Reports marked INVALID   :  10
Reports marked WORKSFORME:  15
Reports marked WONTFIX   :  9 

Specific Product/Component Resolutions  User Metrics 

Created reports per component

VisualEditor  Editing Tools 13  
  
Wikimedia Site requests 11  
  
MediaWiki extensions  TimedMediaHandler 9   
  
MediaWiki extensions  WikidataRepo  9   
  
Wikimedia General/Unknown   9   
  

Created reports per product

MediaWiki extensions  85
Wikimedia 38
MediaWiki 34
VisualEditor  24
Analytics 6 

Top 5 bug report closers

jforrester [AT] wikimedia.org 21
lydia.pintscher [AT] wikimedia15
jrobson [AT] wikimedia.org11
esanders [AT] wikimedia.org   10
tomasz [AT] twkozlowski.net   8 


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MediaWiki ext | Diff  | 58274 | Highest   | 2014-01-22 | 
wikibugs-l[AT]lists. | Implement an order-aware MapDiffer   

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wikibugs-l[AT]lists. | [Regression] Echo: Sending 2 e-mails 

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wikidata-bugs[AT]lis | Query by one property and one value (

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wikidata-bugs[AT]lis | Implement DB schema for query indexes

VisualEditor  | Data Model| 60117 | Highest   | 2014-01-25 | 
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wikibugs-l[AT]lists. | Enable global AbuseFilters for all sm

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[Wikitech-l] help activists use our tech: Allied Media Conference

2014-01-26 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
http://alliedmedia.org/news/2014/01/13/propose-session-amc2014

The Allied Media Conference https://amc.alliedmedia.org/ is a
collaborative laboratory of media-based organizing strategies for
transforming our world, held every Summer in Detroit. I'd love for us to
propose some sessions to help people learn about and use Magnus's query
tools, set up Wiki Loves Foo campaigns, and despam and rev up their
MediaWiki installations with multimedia.

The deadline is March 1, 2014. AMC2014 will be June 19-22, 2014 in Detroit,
Michigan, USA. Volunteers: if your session gets accepted, you can get your
trip paid for by WMF: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:TPS

Sumana Harihareswara
Engineering Community Manager
Wikimedia Foundation
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Request Queue for Gerrit/Git

2014-01-26 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
Thanks for thinking about this, TyA!

For reference:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Annoying_large_bugs#Very_raw_projectssuggests
A system to make, review and action requests for migrating or
creating repositories in Git/Gerrit. (I believe some projects require a
which model of review do you want? answer.)

TyA, would you be interested in turning this into a Flow project?

Sumana Harihareswara
Engineering Community Manager
Wikimedia Foundation


On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Ty Atkinson tya.w...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello all, I am User:TyA. I noticed on the [[Annoying large bugs]] page
 there was a request for a Request Queue and I'm interested in working on
 that. I have some basic ideas of how to lay it out, however I'd like to
 hear other's opinions on it as well. I'm also curious if it is still
 needed.

 My current plan is to have 2 special pages, one for the requesting and the
 other for seeing the queue/examining the submitted items.

 I currently have a rough draft of the Requesting form complete, [
 http://i.imgur.com/zRAAyvh.png screenshot]. However before going too much
 further, I wanted to get some feedback on whether I'm collecting enough
 info, or maybe not enough.

 My plan for the actual queue page is to have it create a table or list that
 will give the current status of the request as well as the requester, the
 submitted date, and the project name. The page will also accept /id
 subpages to load up information about a certain request so that it can be
 marked as done, not done, or needs more info.

 Thanks
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Request Queue for Gerrit/Git

2014-01-26 Thread K. Peachey
On 24 January 2014 04:18, Ty Atkinson tya.w...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello all, I am User:TyA. I noticed on the [[Annoying large bugs]] page
 there was a request for a Request Queue and I'm interested in working on
 that. I have some basic ideas of how to lay it out, however I'd like to
 hear other's opinions on it as well. I'm also curious if it is still
 needed.

 My current plan is to have 2 special pages, one for the requesting and the
 other for seeing the queue/examining the submitted items.

 I currently have a rough draft of the Requesting form complete, [
 http://i.imgur.com/zRAAyvh.png screenshot]. However before going too much
 further, I wanted to get some feedback on whether I'm collecting enough
 info, or maybe not enough.

 My plan for the actual queue page is to have it create a table or list that
 will give the current status of the request as well as the requester, the
 submitted date, and the project name. The page will also accept /id
 subpages to load up information about a certain request so that it can be
 marked as done, not done, or needs more info.


I would recommend you talk to Chad (^d/^demon), It would probably be nice
if this could interface with our Git/Gerrit setup so they can be created
directly from within the interface.

As for the subpage idea, I don't think that would really be needed, It's
one of the areas where we could just store information directly within the
database without using the wikipage model for storage.

You would probably need more than two special pages to cover a few things

- Request Overview page (Table Format/Options to filter based on certain
features)
- Request Creation page
- Request Management page (Edit/Update requests/Action the requests etc)
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