[Wikitech-l] [Reminder] Language Engineering IRC Office Hour on February 12, 2014 (Wednesday) at 1700 UTC
Hello, A quick reminder that the IRC office hour for Language Engineering is happening later today at 1700 UTC on Freenode #wikimedia-office. More details at the end of the mail. See you there! Thanks Runa Event Details: == # Date: February 12, 2014 (Wednesday) # Time: 1700-1800 UTC, 0900-1000 PDT (Check for local time: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20140212T1700) # IRC channel: #wikimedia-office on irc.freenode.net Agenda: == 1. Universal Language Selector (ULS) update and developments 2. Q & A -- Forwarded message -- From: Runa Bhattacharjee Date: Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 2:49 PM Subject: Language Engineering IRC Office Hour on February 12, 2014 (Wednesday) at 1700 UTC To: MediaWiki internationalisation , Wikimedia Mailing List , Wikimedia developers , wikitech-ambassad...@lists.wikimedia.org [x-posted] Hello, The Wikimedia Language Engineering team will be hosting the monthly IRC office hour on February 12, 2014 (Wednesday) at 1700 UTC/ 0900 PDT on #wikimedia-office. This time we would be talking about the recent changes made to the Universal Language Selector (ULS) - the MediaWiki extension that provides unified language configuration[1] - and the impact on the Wikimedia wikis. We look forward to addressing any questions you may have about this. Please see below for the event details. Questions can also be sent to me before the event. See you all at the IRC office hour! Thanks Runa [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Universal_Language_Selector Event Details: == # Date: February 12, 2014 # Time: 1700-1800 UTC, 0900-1000 PDT ( http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20140212T1700) # IRC channel: #wikimedia-office on irc.freenode.net Agenda: == 1. Universal Language Selector (ULS) update and developments 2. Q & A -- Language Engineering - Outreach and QA Coordinator Wikimedia Foundation -- Language Engineering - Outreach and QA Coordinator Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] RFC: Magic expressions — Magic words in the scripting expressions
Hi all, Please read and share thoughts: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Magic_expressions Pavel ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Hong-Kong citizens being unable to upload big content to Commons
Le 11/02/2014 21:02, Antoine Musso a écrit : > Le 11/02/2014 19:06, Emmanuel Engelhart a écrit : >> It seems that people in Hong-Kong are not able to upload big content >> (for example videos) to Commons due to (what looks like to be) a lack of >> connectivity between their Internet provider and the Wikimedia >> datacenters (but Youtube works well). >> >> I reported about that on Bugzilla: >> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60283 >> >> Surprisingly (to me), nobody from the WMF ops team has answered to the >> multiple comments so far and the ticket has been categorized with a low >> priority. >> >> Thus, is that really a minor issue? Or is Bugzilla the wrong place to >> talk about that? > > Faidon (who knows about network) replied on the bug asking for more > informations. Basically "hong-kong" is too vague when it comes to > internet connectivity. Things seem to be more and more concrete on the Bugzilla ticket. Thank you to both of you for trying to get this fixed. Emmanuel -- Kiwix - Wikipedia Offline & more * Web: http://www.kiwix.org * Twitter: https://twitter.com/KiwixOffline * more: http://www.kiwix.org/wiki/Communication ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: Magic expressions -- Magic words in the scripting expressions
On Feb 12, 2014 6:28 AM, "Pavel Astakhov" wrote: > > Hi all, > > Please read and share thoughts: > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Magic_expressions > > Pavel > > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l What is the goal of this RFC? Most rfcs have some sort of goal (e.g. implement x in core), this seems to just describe your extension. Given you dont need permission or agreement to write an extension, i'm not sure what you are attempting to accomplish with this rfc. -bawolff ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Proof of concept implementation for Structured logging RFC
Yesterday I opened Gerrit change 112699 [0] with a proof of concept implementation for the Structured logging RFC [1] that leverages PSR-3 and Monolog. I'm sure it's not ready to merge yet but hopefully it will get some attention from interested parties to move this discussion forward. From the commit message: > This proof of concept implementation of the structured logging RFC > introduces a PSR-3 based logging class. The MWLogger class is actually > a thin wrapper around any PSR-3 LoggerInterface implementation. Named > MWLogger instances can be obtained from the MWLogger::getInstance() > static method. MWLogger expects a class implementing the MWLoggerSpi > interface to act as a factory for new MWLogger instances. A concrete > MWLoggerSpi implementation using the Monolog library is also provided. There are a couple things in this change that I expect deserve discussion. The biggest is the way that I am proposing to use Composer to manage importing Monolog and the Psr\Log libraries into mediawiki-core. This crosses into the territory of the Third-party components RFC [2]. This topic has come up on gerrit already. I gave this response there: > Jeroen wrote: >> Not really nice to just copy the monolog sources into MW... > > I would agree that it's not the cleanest or prettiest way to get significant > third-party code incorporated into MediaWiki, but this is part of the > conversation that I was hoping this patch could move forward. > > Do you have a suggestion for a better way to incorporate external packages > that will allow deployment to WMF cluster and easy packaging for the tarball > releases? I'm using a Composer file to manage the lib directory so that we > can upgrade to newer versions with a minimum amount of fuss. The full > "vendor" structure from the Composer is maintained so that license files, etc > are preserved. I see this method as being similar to the way that we include > jQuery and other javascript libraries. [0]: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/112699/ [1]: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Structured_logging [2]: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Third-party_components -- Bryan Davis Wikimedia Foundation [[m:User:BDavis_(WMF)]] Sr Software EngineerBoise, ID USA irc: bd808v:415.839.6885 x6855 ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] February '14 appreciation thread
Hi! In a shameless copy of Sumana's August 2012 idea, I'd like to send public thanks to some people who have helped me get some things done in the past few weeks/days: * Guillaume Paumier, for his overall amazingness and his help in creating and distributing the weekly Tech News bulletin; * Daniel Zahn (mutante) and Sam Reed (Reedy) for their help in getting my Gerrit patches reviewed & merged (long overdue!); * Ariel Glenn (apergos) for triaging my latest RT ticket and for being so nice and understanding on a Sunday evening ;-) So, if you'd like to thank someone, now is a good time and opportunity to do so! Following Sumana's example, the rules are: "be kind, thank someone, and say why you're thanking them." Tomasz ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] February '14 appreciation thread
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 08:45:49PM +0100, Tomasz W. Kozlowski wrote: > So, if you'd like to thank someone, now is a good time and > opportunity to do so! Following Sumana's example, the rules are: "be > kind, thank someone, and say why you're thanking them." I'd like to thank Theopolisme, who was/is working with us on the Multimedia team (and across other engineering projects) and has been a tremendous help on a lot of bugs. Rock on, Theo, rock on. -- Mark Holmquist Software Engineer, Multimedia Wikimedia Foundation mtrac...@member.fsf.org https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/User:MHolmquist ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Presenting inline diffs
Hi, I'd like to present you another RFC: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Inline_diffs It proposes to integrate into MediaWiki inline diffs from MobileFrontend. -- Best regards, Max Semenik ([[User:MaxSem]]) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] February '14 appreciation thread
I echo this. Theopolisme has been submitting patches to Mobile Frontend too and doing the leg work to fixing some longstanding issues. Thanks Theopolisme! On 12 Feb 2014 15:52, "Mark Holmquist" wrote: > On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 08:45:49PM +0100, Tomasz W. Kozlowski wrote: > > So, if you'd like to thank someone, now is a good time and > > opportunity to do so! Following Sumana's example, the rules are: "be > > kind, thank someone, and say why you're thanking them." > > I'd like to thank Theopolisme, who was/is working with us on the Multimedia > team (and across other engineering projects) and has been a tremendous > help on a lot of bugs. Rock on, Theo, rock on. > > -- > Mark Holmquist > Software Engineer, Multimedia > Wikimedia Foundation > mtrac...@member.fsf.org > https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/User:MHolmquist > > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] February '14 appreciation thread
I'd like to thank to wm-bot, you are so awesome, I'd marry you if they legalized robotic marriage... On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 9:04 PM, Jon Robson wrote: > I echo this. Theopolisme has been submitting patches to Mobile Frontend too > and doing the leg work to fixing some longstanding issues. Thanks > Theopolisme! > On 12 Feb 2014 15:52, "Mark Holmquist" wrote: > >> On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 08:45:49PM +0100, Tomasz W. Kozlowski wrote: >> > So, if you'd like to thank someone, now is a good time and >> > opportunity to do so! Following Sumana's example, the rules are: "be >> > kind, thank someone, and say why you're thanking them." >> >> I'd like to thank Theopolisme, who was/is working with us on the Multimedia >> team (and across other engineering projects) and has been a tremendous >> help on a lot of bugs. Rock on, Theo, rock on. >> >> -- >> Mark Holmquist >> Software Engineer, Multimedia >> Wikimedia Foundation >> mtrac...@member.fsf.org >> https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/User:MHolmquist >> >> ___ >> Wikitech-l mailing list >> Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] February '14 appreciation thread
Le 12/02/2014 20:45, Tomasz W. Kozlowski a écrit : > Hi! > In a shameless copy of Sumana's August 2012 idea, I'd like to send > public thanks to some people who have helped me get some things done in > the past few weeks/days: > > * Guillaume Paumier, for his overall amazingness and his help in > creating and distributing the weekly Tech News bulletin; > * Daniel Zahn (mutante) and Sam Reed (Reedy) for their help in getting > my Gerrit patches reviewed & merged (long overdue!); > * Ariel Glenn (apergos) for triaging my latest RT ticket and for being > so nice and understanding on a Sunday evening ;-) > > So, if you'd like to thank someone, now is a good time and opportunity > to do so! Following Sumana's example, the rules are: "be kind, thank > someone, and say why you're thanking them." Thank you Tomasz for the cheerful note! Thanks to all the volunteers doing first level technical support for the communities. It is crazy how many corner cases people manage to hit. Thanks to all volunteers who tirelessly triage bug reports. Thanks to all volunteers reviewing code for MediaWiki, most often with more knowledge than I have (and thank you guys for merging my changes!). Thanks to everyone mentioning potential site issues, you sometime manage to report them faster than our monitoring robots. A special note for physikerwelt who is overhauling the Math system. Thanks to anyone showing up on IRC during European mornings. -- Antoine "hashar" Musso ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] February '14 appreciation thread
> Hi! > In a shameless copy of Sumana's August 2012 idea, I'd like to send > public thanks to some people who have helped me get some things done in > the past few weeks/days: > > * Guillaume Paumier, for his overall amazingness and his help in > creating and distributing the weekly Tech News bulletin; > * Daniel Zahn (mutante) and Sam Reed (Reedy) for their help in getting > my Gerrit patches reviewed & merged (long overdue!); > * Ariel Glenn (apergos) for triaging my latest RT ticket and for being > so nice and understanding on a Sunday evening ;-) > > So, if you'd like to thank someone, now is a good time and opportunity > to do so! Following Sumana's example, the rules are: "be kind, thank > someone, and say why you're thanking them." Thank you Sumana for getting me to come back to the list. I'll start a thread here once I get time! Also thank you Sumana for starting that thread about seeing what we could do about Tor. As a user of Tor who is sometimes frustrated by not being able to edit while using Tor, I really appreciate that! Thank you Jeremy Baron, Tyler Romeo, Chad, Andre Klapper, Risker, and Nathan Larson for all your help with helping me debug things and pointing me in the right direction when I have problems to report. Thank you to everyone who I missed who have helped me out on this list! Finally thank you to everyone on the Visual Editor team. You got a lot of crap a while back from everyone, including myself, but you really are working on an awesome product, and I'm glad to see it happening. Thank you, Derric Atzrott (Hmmm this signature looks like I'm thanking myself given the rest of the mail. I'm not, just to be clear) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Tip for newcomers and experts: MediaWiki Virtual Libray (MVL) "books": Developer's Guide, Security Guide...
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MVL offers ready-for download PDF and ebook versions of up-to-date collections of articles like MediaWiki Developer's Guide (MDG) MediaWiki Security Guide (MSG) and more. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] February '14 appreciation thread
Hey, Thanks to Tpt for doing a great job in implementing things in WikibaseDataModelSerialization. Thanks to MWJames for his huge amount of contributions to the SMW project. Thanks to Jamie Thingelstad for providing very helpful early adoption feedback on SMW and running the awesome resource that is WikiApiary. This makes up for me having to look up how to spell that last name! Thanks to Karsten (kgh) for providing great user support, enhancing translations and doing many other things. Thanks to addshore for improving the Wikibase code even when I am not looking. Thanks to those who are trying to make the MediaWiki dev community a more friendly and open minded place. Cheers -- Jeroen De Dauw http://www.bn2vs.com Don't panic. Don't be evil. ~=[,,_,,]:3 -- ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Reporting a bug with the creation of pdf Files with equations
I just wanted to report a bug, and info...@wikipedia.org referred me here. Sadly, upon trying to create a pdf (using the otherwise genius Print/export feature) of a page that involves lines above letters (e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mesons) the lines above letters (here essential to indicate the difference between Particle and Antiparticle) just disappear. In the linked Article that can be seen in the caption under the first Image where the pdf then contains the text "The strange antiquark (s)" despite there being a line above the "s" in the online Article. greetings, Daniel ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Wikimedia Bugzilla upgraded to 4.4.1
Hi, bugzilla.wikimedia.org has been upgraded from version 4.2.7 to 4.4.1. [For the technical audience: Bugzilla was also moved to a different server in the new datacenter and Bugzilla is puppetized now.] I would really like to thank Daniel Zahn and Sean Pringle for their wonderful work, help and support! For fixed problems in Bugzilla by this upgrade, see: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=47013,42850,32504,49250,56183,53199,61280,60727 For new functionality, please see the list at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49597#c12 If you run into problems with the Bugzilla software itself after this upgrade, please file a bug report under https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Wikimedia&component=Bugzilla We have one small regression so far: "Saved Searches" in the sidebar look a bit ugly: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61288 It is a temporary trade-off for being able to see your Saved Reports (tables and graphs) listed there, similar to "Saved Searches". Cheers, andre -- Andre Klapper | Wikimedia Bugwrangler http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] February '14 appreciation thread
Thank you to all of you on this list (and on the IRC channels and Bugzilla and Mediawikiwiki) - for treating me as a list participant whose comments are worthy of your attention. I don't know if you realise how rare it is to have the opportunity to work with so many people who genuinely interested in the perspective of "end-users" - particularly an end-user like me who struggles to understand the technical dialect and has to ask questions about what, to most of you, are elementary concepts. Derric, it meant more than you know that you included me in your thanks. Kunal (legoktm) has a special place in my heart for all the things he does, not only to help me to understand things, but to quietly take care of little things that make the path smoother for everyone else, in at least half a dozen different extensions that I personally have seen him help out on. All those "little things" add up to making big differences. A line of code here, an improvement there, a side discussion with someone to suggest a different path...all I can say is that if I am noticing it, I'm pretty sure a lot of other people are too. Risker/Anne ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
