Re: [Wikitech-l] Implementation JSON based localisation format for MediaWiki nearly completed
On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 9:22 PM, Jon Robson wrote: > This is epic. Thanks a bunch Siebrand! Agreed - really exciting to see this come to fruition! :) Kudos to Siebrand & everyone involved. I'm sure there will be bumps along the road but it's clearly a bit architectural step forward. It's also nice to see how the RFC process was used for this. Erik -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Implementation JSON based localisation format for MediaWiki nearly completed
This is epic. Thanks a bunch Siebrand! On 1 Apr 2014 15:10, "Siebrand Mazeland" wrote: > Long! tl;dr is in the first two paragraphs. > > With the merging of https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/122787/ , probably > the largest patch set for MediaWiki ever (+548314, -714438), MediaWiki core > is now using JSON for localisation of interface messages, per a recently > adopted RfC[1]. Thanks Krinkle/Timo for reviewing! > > Please be aware that if you have open patch sets touching *.i18n.php > messages files or MessagesXx.php files, you will have to update your patch > sets to match the new file layout and format. > > In December 2013, the first MediaWiki extensions have already been migrated > to use the JSON format. Today, Antoine/hashar enabled a JSON linter on the > jslint job that runs on many Gerrit repositories' patch sets. > > Since last week I've started to migrate first all MediaWiki extensions that > are used by WIkimedia to use JSON i18n. At this time, 1.23wmf20 has about > 50% of its extensions using the updated format. Migration of two extensions > is taking a little longer[2], but Matt Flaschen is helping with that, and I > expect that to be resolved soon. > > Migration of all extensions has been going very smoothly - it's about 80% > done. With the help of reedy/Sam Reed, Raimond Spekking/Raymond, Niklas > Laxström/Nikerabbit and Adam Wight, so far 427 patch sets related to this > project have already been reviewed and merged[3], 40 await review and I > expect some 90 more to be submitted for the project to be completed. > > Thanks also go to Roan Kattouw/Catrope for implementation of parts of the > RfC together with Niklas, to Niklas for rewriting LocalisationUpdate to > support the JSON format and more, and all who helped draft the RfC, > including James Forrester, Santhosh Thottingal, David Chan, Ed Sanders, > Robert Thomas Moen, and those who deserve credit but I have forgotten to > mention. > > Once all migrations are complete, I'll be doing a full export from > translatewiki.net, which will cause a lot of JSON files to be touched, but > will mostly update encoding (full UTF-8) and add a newline at enf of file > where missing. > > What's next? With this project almost completed, next order of business is > creating an RfC on where to go with the data that now remains in the > MessagesXx.php files (like date formatting, fallback, directionality, > namespace names, special page names, etc.) and localisation for special > page names, magic words and namespace names that are still being > implemented using $wgExtensionMessagesDirs. Maybe this is something we > could discuss and prototype during the hackathon. Please let me know if > this is something you'd like to work on. > > Again, thanks for the help, and apologies for the inconvenience these > changes may have caused you! > > [1] > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Localisation_format > [2] > https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/status:open+topic:json-i18n-special,n,z > [3] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/status:merged+topic:json-i18n,n,z > > Cheers! > > -- > Siebrand Mazeland > Kitano ICT > > M: +31 6 50 69 1239 > Skype: siebrand > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Implementation JSON based localisation format for MediaWiki nearly completed
Cool. Thanks for all the work you put into this. > Once all migrations are complete, I'll be doing a full export from > translatewiki.net, which will cause a lot of JSON files to be touched, but > will mostly update encoding (full UTF-8) and add a newline at enf of file > where missing. > If the export is going to touch all the files, is it too late to change to use tabs for indentation instead of spaces to be like the rest of mediawiki? --bawolff ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] HTML templating systems & MediaWiki - is this summary right?
The mobile web team will be evaluating Gabriel's KnockoutJS template implementation sometime between April 14 and April 28. The things we will be looking at include: how well it will work for mobile's current templating needs, how appropriate it is for mobile delivery, and how much effort would be involved in migrating our existing templates to it. We'll update the list with our findings then. Ryan Kaldari On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Gabriel Wicke wrote: > On 04/01/2014 03:49 PM, Rob Lanphier wrote: > > I'm eager to get some closure on the overall RFC about HTML templating > > myself. Am I right to assume that the process is: > > 1. Get Knockoff complete enough that we can fairly evaluate it against > the > > other proposals > > 2. Reopen the conversation about various alternatives > > 3. Pick something > > Yup, that's pretty much it. > > Gabriel > > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] HTML templating systems & MediaWiki - is this summary right?
I think there's some room to experiment with various options as extensions, in beta, etc. The "pick something" stage is going to have to weigh a lot of competing objectives -- for UI building, for content templates, for scripting, visual editor support, etc. I don't see us getting to the "pick something" stage until a number of different implementations have been prototyped in different contexts. --scott ps. Tyler: please play with the 'spacebars' implementation in https://www.meteor.com/ ; escaping can really be transparently correct if your implementation works with structured HTML, not just banging together raw strings. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] HTML templating systems & MediaWiki - is this summary right?
On 04/01/2014 03:49 PM, Rob Lanphier wrote: > I'm eager to get some closure on the overall RFC about HTML templating > myself. Am I right to assume that the process is: > 1. Get Knockoff complete enough that we can fairly evaluate it against the > other proposals > 2. Reopen the conversation about various alternatives > 3. Pick something Yup, that's pretty much it. Gabriel ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] RfC meeting Wednesday on scoped language converter
That time (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=RFC+Meeting&iso=20140402T21) is fine. I'll work on updating my RFC tonight/tomorrow; sadly we haven't actually made it past image bug fixes to work on language converter issues in Parsoid yet. There's also https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Square_bounding_boxes which would be nice to get unstuck if some clear path forward can be agreed upon. --scott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] HTML templating systems & MediaWiki - is this summary right?
On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Gabriel Wicke wrote: > > I don't see a huge case for discussing this in the RFC meeting. It's mostly > about the implementation at this point, and IMO code review and pull > requests are a better place to discuss that. We'll post benchmark results > when we have them. > > Do you see anything that you feel would be better discussed in an RFC > review? > I'm eager to get some closure on the overall RFC about HTML templating myself. Am I right to assume that the process is: 1. Get Knockoff complete enough that we can fairly evaluate it against the other proposals 2. Reopen the conversation about various alternatives 3. Pick something Correct? Rob ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikimedia-l] Quarterly reviews of high priority WMF initiatives
The minutes and slides from Friday's quarterly review meeting of the Parsoid team are now available at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Metrics_and_activities_meetings/Quarterly_reviews/Parsoid/March_2014 . On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 9:09 PM, Tilman Bayer wrote: > Minutes and slides from Wednesday's quarterly review of the > Foundation's VisualEditor team are now available at > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Metrics_and_activities_meetings/Quarterly_reviews/VisualEditor/March_2014 > > (A separate but related quarterly review meeting of the Parsoid team > took place today, those minutes should be up on Monday.) > > On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 6:49 PM, Erik Moeller wrote: >> Hi folks, >> >> to increase accountability and create more opportunities for course >> corrections and resourcing adjustments as necessary, Sue's asked me >> and Howie Fung to set up a quarterly project evaluation process, >> starting with our highest priority initiatives. These are, according >> to Sue's narrowing focus recommendations which were approved by the >> Board [1]: >> >> - Visual Editor >> - Mobile (mobile contributions + Wikipedia Zero) >> - Editor Engagement (also known as the E2 and E3 teams) >> - Funds Dissemination Committe and expanded grant-making capacity >> >> I'm proposing the following initial schedule: >> >> January: >> - Editor Engagement Experiments >> >> February: >> - Visual Editor >> - Mobile (Contribs + Zero) >> >> March: >> - Editor Engagement Features (Echo, Flow projects) >> - Funds Dissemination Committee >> >> We'll try doing this on the same day or adjacent to the monthly >> metrics meetings [2], since the team(s) will give a presentation on >> their recent progress, which will help set some context that would >> otherwise need to be covered in the quarterly review itself. This will >> also create open opportunities for feedback and questions. >> >> My goal is to do this in a manner where even though the quarterly >> review meetings themselves are internal, the outcomes are captured as >> meeting minutes and shared publicly, which is why I'm starting this >> discussion on a public list as well. I've created a wiki page here >> which we can use to discuss the concept further: >> >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Metrics_and_activities_meetings/Quarterly_reviews >> >> The internal review will, at minimum, include: >> >> Sue Gardner >> myself >> Howie Fung >> Team members and relevant director(s) >> Designated minute-taker >> >> So for example, for Visual Editor, the review team would be the Visual >> Editor / Parsoid teams, Sue, me, Howie, Terry, and a minute-taker. >> >> I imagine the structure of the review roughly as follows, with a >> duration of about 2 1/2 hours divided into 25-30 minute blocks: >> >> - Brief team intro and recap of team's activities through the quarter, >> compared with goals >> - Drill into goals and targets: Did we achieve what we said we would? >> - Review of challenges, blockers and successes >> - Discussion of proposed changes (e.g. resourcing, targets) and other >> action items >> - Buffer time, debriefing >> >> Once again, the primary purpose of these reviews is to create improved >> structures for internal accountability, escalation points in cases >> where serious changes are necessary, and transparency to the world. >> >> In addition to these priority initiatives, my recommendation would be >> to conduct quarterly reviews for any activity that requires more than >> a set amount of resources (people/dollars). These additional reviews >> may however be conducted in a more lightweight manner and internally >> to the departments. We're slowly getting into that habit in >> engineering. >> >> As we pilot this process, the format of the high priority reviews can >> help inform and support reviews across the organization. >> >> Feedback and questions are appreciated. >> >> All best, >> Erik >> >> [1] https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Vote:Narrowing_Focus >> [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Metrics_and_activities_meetings >> -- >> Erik Möller >> VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation >> >> Support Free Knowledge: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate >> >> ___ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list >> wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > > > > -- > Tilman Bayer > Senior Operations Analyst (Movement Communications) > Wikimedia Foundation > IRC (Freenode): HaeB -- Tilman Bayer Senior Operations Analyst (Movement Communications) Wikimedia Foundation IRC (Freenode): HaeB ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Implementation JSON based localisation format for MediaWiki nearly completed
Long! tl;dr is in the first two paragraphs. With the merging of https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/122787/ , probably the largest patch set for MediaWiki ever (+548314, -714438), MediaWiki core is now using JSON for localisation of interface messages, per a recently adopted RfC[1]. Thanks Krinkle/Timo for reviewing! Please be aware that if you have open patch sets touching *.i18n.php messages files or MessagesXx.php files, you will have to update your patch sets to match the new file layout and format. In December 2013, the first MediaWiki extensions have already been migrated to use the JSON format. Today, Antoine/hashar enabled a JSON linter on the jslint job that runs on many Gerrit repositories' patch sets. Since last week I've started to migrate first all MediaWiki extensions that are used by WIkimedia to use JSON i18n. At this time, 1.23wmf20 has about 50% of its extensions using the updated format. Migration of two extensions is taking a little longer[2], but Matt Flaschen is helping with that, and I expect that to be resolved soon. Migration of all extensions has been going very smoothly - it's about 80% done. With the help of reedy/Sam Reed, Raimond Spekking/Raymond, Niklas Laxström/Nikerabbit and Adam Wight, so far 427 patch sets related to this project have already been reviewed and merged[3], 40 await review and I expect some 90 more to be submitted for the project to be completed. Thanks also go to Roan Kattouw/Catrope for implementation of parts of the RfC together with Niklas, to Niklas for rewriting LocalisationUpdate to support the JSON format and more, and all who helped draft the RfC, including James Forrester, Santhosh Thottingal, David Chan, Ed Sanders, Robert Thomas Moen, and those who deserve credit but I have forgotten to mention. Once all migrations are complete, I'll be doing a full export from translatewiki.net, which will cause a lot of JSON files to be touched, but will mostly update encoding (full UTF-8) and add a newline at enf of file where missing. What's next? With this project almost completed, next order of business is creating an RfC on where to go with the data that now remains in the MessagesXx.php files (like date formatting, fallback, directionality, namespace names, special page names, etc.) and localisation for special page names, magic words and namespace names that are still being implemented using $wgExtensionMessagesDirs. Maybe this is something we could discuss and prototype during the hackathon. Please let me know if this is something you'd like to work on. Again, thanks for the help, and apologies for the inconvenience these changes may have caused you! [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Localisation_format [2] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/status:open+topic:json-i18n-special,n,z [3] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/status:merged+topic:json-i18n,n,z Cheers! -- Siebrand Mazeland Kitano ICT M: +31 6 50 69 1239 Skype: siebrand ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Assistance requested with code review on Hovercards patches
Hi everyone, As I'm sure most of you are aware, Hovercards is now live as Beta Feature [1]. Prateek, the developer for Hovercards, has been a bit stuck recently trying to find someone to review his patches. We'd appreciate any help that anyone could offer on this front! Hovercards is mostly written in JS, for reference. Watch out for commits from Prtksxna (psax...@wikimedia.org), or let me know if you're interested in helping more directly. Thanks, Dan [1]: http://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/03/26/hovercards-now-available-as-a-beta-feature-on-all-wikimedia-wikis/ -- Dan Garry Associate Product Manager for Platform Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] HTML templating systems & MediaWiki - is this summary right?
On 04/01/2014 10:55 AM, Sumana Harihareswara wrote: > Gabriel, Matt - is the PHP runtime ready? At this point it supports only a part of the TAssembly spec: https://github.com/mattofak/knockoff Blame other stuff getting in the way. Matt or me should find some time to knock out (ha!) the remaining bits this week. > Want to talk about it in this week's RfC meeting? I don't see a huge case for discussing this in the RFC meeting. It's mostly about the implementation at this point, and IMO code review and pull requests are a better place to discuss that. We'll post benchmark results when we have them. Do you see anything that you feel would be better discussed in an RFC review? Gabriel ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] HTML templating systems & MediaWiki - is this summary right?
On 03/30/2014 02:23 AM, Nuria Ruiz wrote: > What I am saying is that the parsing and escaping scheme we need is much > simpler if you disallow the use case of passing the template engine > something that is not data. > > Let me explain as this as it has to do more with correctness that with > security per se: > A template engine objective is to separate data from markup. In your > example you are passing the template 'class="anything"' or > 'onclick="something"' neither "class" nor "onclick" are data. The example might not have been the most helpful one. Consider a handlebars template like this: {{title}} Even with double-stashes you'll be in trouble if your url data happens to be 'javascript:alert(cookie)'. For this you need special and ideally automatic sanitization for href attributes (and src & style), which is what KnockOff/TAssembly provides. Gabriel ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Optimizing our captcha images
Sure ,Thanks and please take part in the discussion about the Captcha project here: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62960 Your advice can be a great help to the Project. On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 00:24:38 +0530 wrote >On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 11:46 AM, Aalekh Nigam wrote: > Hello, > > I am currently working on Multilingual and effective Captcha project for > GSOC 2014 just to > encounter the same problem of difficult image I did proposed the solution > as an indexing System > for image which will improve overtime by removing non user friendly images > from those user > friendly, more detail about this image indexing system is discussed here: > > > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:AalekhN/GSoC_proposal_2014#Image_Indexing_System > That sounds awesome. Please let me know if I can help beta test it. Ryan Kaldari ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l Send by rediffmail ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Optimizing our captcha images
On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 11:46 AM, Aalekh Nigam wrote: > Hello, > > I am currently working on Multilingual and effective Captcha project for > GSOC 2014 just to > encounter the same problem of difficult image I did proposed the solution > as an indexing System > for image which will improve overtime by removing non user friendly images > from those user > friendly, more detail about this image indexing system is discussed here: > > > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:AalekhN/GSoC_proposal_2014#Image_Indexing_System > That sounds awesome. Please let me know if I can help beta test it. Ryan Kaldari ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Optimizing our captcha images
Hello, I am currently working on Multilingual and effective Captcha project for GSOC 2014 just to encounter the same problem of difficult image I did proposed the solution as an indexing System for image which will improve overtime by removing non user friendly images from those user friendly, more detail about this image indexing system is discussed here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:AalekhN/GSoC_proposal_2014#Image_Indexing_System Thank You Aalekh Nigam "aalekhN" On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 00:00:24 +0530 wrote >Has anyone ever collected statistics on which of our captcha images are most commonly entered incorrectly? I've noticed that some of our images are quite difficult to read and should probably be removed from rotation. I could imagine applying a heuristic like: 0-10% wrong: Delete - too easy 10-30% wrong: Keep - just right 30-100% wrong: Delete - too hard Ryan Kaldari ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l Send by rediffmail ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Passwd auth on mobile site fubar, or me?
Works fine for me. Is the desktop login not working correctly for you as well? If not then do file a bug under https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=MobileFrontend sorry for the inconvenience --tomasz On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 11:41 PM, George William Herbert wrote: > > Just got fail to authenticate to m.en including getting it to send me a temp > password in case I forgot it. It it me or a site problem? > > > -george william herbert > george.herb...@gmail.com > > Sent from Kangphone > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Optimizing our captcha images
I'm fairly sure not, although you might be able to run those from the logs. I would really like to see a feedback mechanism in fancycaptcha (or all captchas for that matter) so we could automatically run those numbers. On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Ryan Kaldari wrote: > Has anyone ever collected statistics on which of our captcha images are > most commonly entered incorrectly? I've noticed that some of our images are > quite difficult to read and should probably be removed from rotation. I > could imagine applying a heuristic like: > > 0-10% wrong: Delete - too easy > 10-30% wrong: Keep - just right > 30-100% wrong: Delete - too hard > > Ryan Kaldari > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Optimizing our captcha images
On 2014-04-01, 11:30 AM, Ryan Kaldari wrote: > Has anyone ever collected statistics on which of our captcha images are > most commonly entered incorrectly? I've noticed that some of our images are > quite difficult to read and should probably be removed from rotation. I > could imagine applying a heuristic like: > > 0-10% wrong: Delete - too easy Since when was a CAPCHA clear enough that it is rarely entered incorrectly a bad CAPTCHAs? ~Daniel Friesen (Dantman, Nadir-Seen-Fire) [http://danielfriesen.name/] ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Optimizing our captcha images
Has anyone ever collected statistics on which of our captcha images are most commonly entered incorrectly? I've noticed that some of our images are quite difficult to read and should probably be removed from rotation. I could imagine applying a heuristic like: 0-10% wrong: Delete - too easy 10-30% wrong: Keep - just right 30-100% wrong: Delete - too hard Ryan Kaldari ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] HTML templating systems & MediaWiki - is this summary right?
On 03/19/2014 09:52 PM, Gabriel Wicke wrote: > We made some good progress on KnockOff [1,2] recently. It is currently the > fastest library in our micro benchmarks [3] despite having a DOM-based > compiler with the associated security advantages. Matt has started work on > the PHP port before going on vacation, but I expect that we'll have a PHP > runtime next week as well. The runtime code is still small at 337 lines. > > Cheers, > > Gabriel > > [1]: > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/HTML_templating_library/Knockoff_-_Tassembly > [2]: https://github.com/gwicke/knockoff > [3]: > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/HTML_templating_library#Performance Gabriel, Matt - is the PHP runtime ready? Want to talk about it in this week's RfC meeting? -- Sumana Harihareswara Senior Technical Writer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Welcome Giuseppe Lavagetto to Wikimedia Operations
On Apr 1, 2014 2:47 PM, "Mark Bergsma" wrote: > > I'm pleased to announce that today, Giuseppe Lavagetto will be joining the Operations Team as an Operations Engineer. Giuseppe is based in Rome, Italy and will be working with us remotely. Yay, more European ops staff! Welcome Giuseppe! Cheers, Katie He's coming from Venere, a daughter company of Expedia, and has greatly helped streamline Operations and improve service reliability there. > > Giuseppe is very passionate about free and open source, free content and user privacy, and these aspects are strong motivations for him to join the Wikimedia Foundation. In his free time, he's an active volunteer with Autistici[1], a project that provides users communications privacy and helps avoid censorship. He also likes to contribute to various small FLOSS projects and loves music, blues, soul and hip-hop in particular. He's happily living with his wife and 11 year old step-daughter in Rome. > > Giuseppe will be joining us next week in our off-site team meeting in Athens, which should be a short trip for him. :) > > Please welcome Giuseppe! > > > [1] http://www.autistici.org > > -- > Mark Bergsma > Lead Operations Architect > Director of Technical Operations > Wikimedia Foundation > > > > > > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Reminder: wikitech downtime Tuesday, April 1st 9AM PST (16:00UTC)
Migration is now finished. You may need to log out and in again in order to get complete labs functionality. -Andrew On 4/1/14 9:09 AM, Andrew Bogott wrote: Reminder -- this will be happening about two hours from now. A dry run of the process was slower than expected, so wikitech may be unreachable for more than an hour. And, yeah, it's April first, but nevertheless the downtime will be real :) On 3/26/14 3:03 PM, Andrew Bogott wrote: As part of the migration of labs from pmtpa to eqiad, I'll be redirecting wikitech to a new host in eqiad on Tuesday. This will require some downtime in order to make sure that the wikis are in sync between the two boxes. It should only take a few minutes, but don't be alarmed if things are off for an hour or so. -Andrew ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Welcome Giuseppe Lavagetto to Wikimedia Operations
Benvenuto! Autistici.org is a great reference. Vito Inviato con AquaMail per Android http://www.aqua-mail.com Il 01 aprile 2014 16:17:51 Sumana Harihareswara ha scritto: On 04/01/2014 08:47 AM, Mark Bergsma wrote: > I'm pleased to announce that today, Giuseppe Lavagetto will be joining the Operations Team as an Operations Engineer. Giuseppe is based in Rome, Italy and will be working with us remotely. He's coming from Venere, a daughter company of Expedia, and has greatly helped streamline Operations and improve service reliability there. > Giuseppe is very passionate about free and open source, free content and user privacy, and these aspects are strong motivations for him to join the Wikimedia Foundation. In his free time, he's an active volunteer with Autistici[1], a project that provides users communications privacy and helps avoid censorship. He also likes to contribute to various small FLOSS projects and loves music, blues, soul and hip-hop in particular. He's happily living with his wife and 11 year old step-daughter in Rome. > Giuseppe will be joining us next week in our off-site team meeting in Athens, which should be a short trip for him. :) > Please welcome Giuseppe! > > [1] http://www.autistici.org > — Mark Bergsma > Lead Operations Architect > Director of Technical Operations > Wikimedia Foundation Giuseppe, welcome! I'm especially delighted to welcome another colleague who's enthusiastic about pro-privacy and anti-surveillance work. Thank you for joining us! -- Sumana Harihareswara Senior Technical Writer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Welcome Giuseppe Lavagetto to Wikimedia Operations
On 04/01/2014 08:47 AM, Mark Bergsma wrote: > I'm pleased to announce that today, Giuseppe Lavagetto will be joining the > Operations Team as an Operations Engineer. Giuseppe is based in Rome, Italy > and will be working with us remotely. He's coming from Venere, a daughter > company of Expedia, and has greatly helped streamline Operations and improve > service reliability there. > > Giuseppe is very passionate about free and open source, free content and user > privacy, and these aspects are strong motivations for him to join the > Wikimedia Foundation. In his free time, he's an active volunteer with > Autistici[1], a project that provides users communications privacy and helps > avoid censorship. He also likes to contribute to various small FLOSS projects > and loves music, blues, soul and hip-hop in particular. He's happily living > with his wife and 11 year old step-daughter in Rome. > > Giuseppe will be joining us next week in our off-site team meeting in Athens, > which should be a short trip for him. :) > > Please welcome Giuseppe! > > > [1] http://www.autistici.org > > — > Mark Bergsma > Lead Operations Architect > Director of Technical Operations > Wikimedia Foundation Giuseppe, welcome! I'm especially delighted to welcome another colleague who's enthusiastic about pro-privacy and anti-surveillance work. Thank you for joining us! -- Sumana Harihareswara Senior Technical Writer Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Reminder: wikitech downtime Tuesday, April 1st 9AM PST (16:00UTC)
Reminder -- this will be happening about two hours from now. A dry run of the process was slower than expected, so wikitech may be unreachable for more than an hour. And, yeah, it's April first, but nevertheless the downtime will be real :) On 3/26/14 3:03 PM, Andrew Bogott wrote: As part of the migration of labs from pmtpa to eqiad, I'll be redirecting wikitech to a new host in eqiad on Tuesday. This will require some downtime in order to make sure that the wikis are in sync between the two boxes. It should only take a few minutes, but don't be alarmed if things are off for an hour or so. -Andrew ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Tablet skin design
Hello everyone, Florence asked me to forward this request to the list, which I am happy to do :) Markus Original Message Subject:Tablet skin design Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 21:25:31 +0200 From: Florence Devouard Newsgroups: gmane.org.wikimedia.mediawiki Hello A friend of mine is looking for a designer who could work on a responsive mediawiki skin for a mediawiki-based website for a company. The goal would rather be to make the skin best for use on tablets. Would any of you be interested by such a task ? Or would know someone who could ? Or would have pointers for such a skin ? Please feedback here or to my email address fdevouard @@@ anthere.org Thanks Anthere ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Welcome Giuseppe Lavagetto to Wikimedia Operations
I'm pleased to announce that today, Giuseppe Lavagetto will be joining the Operations Team as an Operations Engineer. Giuseppe is based in Rome, Italy and will be working with us remotely. He's coming from Venere, a daughter company of Expedia, and has greatly helped streamline Operations and improve service reliability there. Giuseppe is very passionate about free and open source, free content and user privacy, and these aspects are strong motivations for him to join the Wikimedia Foundation. In his free time, he's an active volunteer with Autistici[1], a project that provides users communications privacy and helps avoid censorship. He also likes to contribute to various small FLOSS projects and loves music, blues, soul and hip-hop in particular. He's happily living with his wife and 11 year old step-daughter in Rome. Giuseppe will be joining us next week in our off-site team meeting in Athens, which should be a short trip for him. :) Please welcome Giuseppe! [1] http://www.autistici.org — Mark Bergsma Lead Operations Architect Director of Technical Operations Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Fwd: Tablet skin design
Hello Could someone forward that message to the mediawiki list for I ? I registered but my registration approval is still pending and the search is rather urgent ;) Thank you for your help ! Flo Original Message Subject:Tablet skin design Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 21:25:31 +0200 From: Florence Devouard Newsgroups: gmane.org.wikimedia.mediawiki Hello A friend of mine is looking for a designer who could work on a responsive mediawiki skin for a mediawiki-based website for a company. The goal would rather be to make the skin best for use on tablets. Would any of you be interested by such a task ? Or would know someone who could ? Or would have pointers for such a skin ? Please feedback here or to my email address fdevouard @@@ anthere.org Thanks Anthere ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l