Re: [Wikitech-l] Announcing the launch of Maps

2015-09-18 Thread Tomasz Finc
Thanks Yongmin,

Operations will need to update the referrer in Varnish ERB. Similar to

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/239279/

--tomasz

On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 8:00 PM, Yongmin Hong  wrote:

> Done at T113122, but why operations?
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> 2015. 9. 19. 오전 9:27에 "Yuri Astrakhan" 님이 작성:
>
> > Please file a phabricator task, and add maps and operations on it
> > On Sep 19, 2015 3:21 AM, "Yongmin Hong"  wrote:
> >
> > > 2015. 9. 18. 오전 4:27에 "Tomasz Finc" 님이 작성:
> > > >
> > > > The Discovery Department has launched an experimental tile and static
> > > maps
> > > > service available at https://maps.wikimedia.org.
> > > >
> > > > Using this service you can browse and embed map tiles into your own
> > tools
> > > > using OpenStreetMap data. Currently, we handle traffic from *.wmflabs
> > > .org
> > > > and *.wikivoyage .org (referrer header must be either missing or set
> to
> > > > these values) but we would like to open it up to Wikipedia traffic if
> > we
> > > > see enough use. Our hope is that this service fits the needs of the
> > > > numerous maps developers and tool authors who have asked for a WMF
> > hosted
> > > > tile service with an initial focus on WikiVoyage.
> > >
> > > It is sad that incubator.wikimedia.org is not included. (Wikivoyages
> not
> > > ready for their own wikis resides on this domain under prefix Wy/**, so
> > > Korean one becomes [[Wy/ko]].)
> > >
> > > - snip -
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Announcing the launch of Maps

2015-09-18 Thread Yongmin Hong
Done at T113122, but why operations?

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2015. 9. 19. 오전 9:27에 "Yuri Astrakhan" 님이 작성:

> Please file a phabricator task, and add maps and operations on it
> On Sep 19, 2015 3:21 AM, "Yongmin Hong"  wrote:
>
> > 2015. 9. 18. 오전 4:27에 "Tomasz Finc" 님이 작성:
> > >
> > > The Discovery Department has launched an experimental tile and static
> > maps
> > > service available at https://maps.wikimedia.org.
> > >
> > > Using this service you can browse and embed map tiles into your own
> tools
> > > using OpenStreetMap data. Currently, we handle traffic from *.wmflabs
> > .org
> > > and *.wikivoyage .org (referrer header must be either missing or set to
> > > these values) but we would like to open it up to Wikipedia traffic if
> we
> > > see enough use. Our hope is that this service fits the needs of the
> > > numerous maps developers and tool authors who have asked for a WMF
> hosted
> > > tile service with an initial focus on WikiVoyage.
> >
> > It is sad that incubator.wikimedia.org is not included. (Wikivoyages not
> > ready for their own wikis resides on this domain under prefix Wy/**, so
> > Korean one becomes [[Wy/ko]].)
> >
> > - snip -
> >
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Allowing extensions to specify which MW core versions they require (was: RFC meeting this week)

2015-09-18 Thread James Forrester
On 18 September 2015 at 19:03, Chad  wrote:

> On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 6:30 PM Legoktm 
> wrote:
>
> > I removed the WIP tag on Sept. 1st, and no one has objected so far. I'd
> > like to get this included in the 1.26 release (being branched on
> > Tuesday) and hopefully have some time to update extensions and skins to
> > use it as well.
>
> Tuesday? I thought it was next Tuesday, the 29th...
>

Well, ​https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.26/Roadmap says we're
cutting wmf24 as the last one, like with ​1.25 (but I wrote it based on
what I understood from Greg, so it might well be wrong and all my fault;
for similar reasons,
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/wmf-deploy-2015-09-29_(1.27.0-wmf.1)/ is
dated a week next Tuesday).

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Allowing extensions to specify which MW core versions they require (was: RFC meeting this week)

2015-09-18 Thread Chad
On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 6:30 PM Legoktm  wrote:

> I removed the WIP tag on Sept. 1st, and no one has objected so far. I'd
> like to get this included in the 1.26 release (being branched on
> Tuesday) and hopefully have some time to update extensions and skins to
> use it as well.
>
>
Tuesday? I thought it was next Tuesday, the 29th...

-Chad
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[Wikitech-l] Allowing extensions to specify which MW core versions they require (was: RFC meeting this week)

2015-09-18 Thread Legoktm
Hi,

[Thread necromancy]

On 05/14/2015 10:27 PM, Tim Starling wrote:
> On 14/05/15 09:11, Matthew Flaschen wrote:
>> Outcome of this was
>> "just submit a patch for it and we can continue the discussion in
>> gerrit".
> 
> Note that the patch has been in Gerrit for almost 24 hours with no
> negative comments on the principle, despite me adding almost everyone
> from the meeting as a reviewer.
> 
> https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/210856/
> 
> If there are still no negative comments after the [WIP] tag is
> removed, I will take that as evidence that the objections raised in
> the meeting have been withdrawn and I will approve the patch.
> 

I removed the WIP tag on Sept. 1st, and no one has objected so far. I'd
like to get this included in the 1.26 release (being branched on
Tuesday) and hopefully have some time to update extensions and skins to
use it as well.

Thanks,
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Announcing the launch of Maps

2015-09-18 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
Please file a phabricator task, and add maps and operations on it
On Sep 19, 2015 3:21 AM, "Yongmin Hong"  wrote:

> 2015. 9. 18. 오전 4:27에 "Tomasz Finc" 님이 작성:
> >
> > The Discovery Department has launched an experimental tile and static
> maps
> > service available at https://maps.wikimedia.org.
> >
> > Using this service you can browse and embed map tiles into your own tools
> > using OpenStreetMap data. Currently, we handle traffic from *.wmflabs
> .org
> > and *.wikivoyage .org (referrer header must be either missing or set to
> > these values) but we would like to open it up to Wikipedia traffic if we
> > see enough use. Our hope is that this service fits the needs of the
> > numerous maps developers and tool authors who have asked for a WMF hosted
> > tile service with an initial focus on WikiVoyage.
>
> It is sad that incubator.wikimedia.org is not included. (Wikivoyages not
> ready for their own wikis resides on this domain under prefix Wy/**, so
> Korean one becomes [[Wy/ko]].)
>
> - snip -
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Announcing the launch of Maps

2015-09-18 Thread Yongmin Hong
2015. 9. 18. 오전 4:27에 "Tomasz Finc" 님이 작성:
>
> The Discovery Department has launched an experimental tile and static maps
> service available at https://maps.wikimedia.org.
>
> Using this service you can browse and embed map tiles into your own tools
> using OpenStreetMap data. Currently, we handle traffic from *.wmflabs .org
> and *.wikivoyage .org (referrer header must be either missing or set to
> these values) but we would like to open it up to Wikipedia traffic if we
> see enough use. Our hope is that this service fits the needs of the
> numerous maps developers and tool authors who have asked for a WMF hosted
> tile service with an initial focus on WikiVoyage.

It is sad that incubator.wikimedia.org is not included. (Wikivoyages not
ready for their own wikis resides on this domain under prefix Wy/**, so
Korean one becomes [[Wy/ko]].)

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Re: [Wikitech-l] mailman upgrade next week - Sep 9th 1400 UTC

2015-09-18 Thread Daniel Zahn
Happy to announce that the mailman migration is over. We are now on version
2.1.18 and running on a jessie machine, fermium.

Here is a summary of changes that are relevant to users and list admins:

Administrators / Moderators

   - Emails are validated more accurately. Spam prevention.
   - Poster password added. Allows users who may meet moderation standards
   to automatically have their emails accepted.
   - Cookies now set the secure flag when over HTTPS (default).
   - Sessions can be invalidated through logouts on administrator and
   moderation interfaces.

Users

   - DMARC improvements solve issues users have with Yahoo and Outlook
   regarding mail. This isn't done yet but unblocked with the new version.
   - Password reminder link is now on the roster page (private archives).
   - Emails can be automatically accepted to private lists if a poster
   password is used provided by list administrators.

If you want more details see ->
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110140#1582771

All tickets are linked on https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T105756

On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 6:46 PM, Daniel Zahn  wrote:

> There will be another scheduled maintenance window for this upgrade at:
>
> Friday, September 18, 2015 at 2:00:00 PM UTC
> (Friday, September 18, 2015 at 7:00:00 AM PDT)
>
> for 3 hour mails to lists will not be delivered and i will follow-up
> once this is over.
>
> Thank you,
>
>


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Re: [Wikitech-l] LDAP extension ownership

2015-09-18 Thread Greg Grossmeier

> Hi maybe Wikimedia can maintain if they want to. Who ever is in charge of 
> maintaining extensions for Wikimedia would you like to maintain this one 
> since this extension is used at wikitech I think which is owned because 
> wikitech is used to create an account for gerrit.

You write that like (the) Wikimedia (Foundation) has a single mind :)

There is no person in charge of maintaining extensions for Wikimedia;
all engineering teams are managed independently (to varying degrees) and
what they work on and maintain is an ongoing balancing act of time and
promises.

For the record: there already more than 0 extensions in use on
WMF-hosted wikis that aren't "maintained" by WMF or otherwise actively
maintained :)
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Extensions_used_on_Wikimedia

(I hesitate to link to this page as well, because it is most likely
always out of date and gives wrong impressions in multiple directions,
but: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developers/Maintainers ).

Greg

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Re: [Wikitech-l] LDAP extension ownership

2015-09-18 Thread Thomas Mulhall
Hi maybe Wikimedia can maintain if they want to. Who ever is in charge of 
maintaining extensions for Wikimedia would you like to maintain this one since 
this extension is used at wikitech I think which is owned because wikitech is 
used to create an account for gerrit. 


 On Friday, 18 September 2015, 17:20, Chris Koerner  
wrote:
   

 Ryan Lane  gmail.com> writes:

> 
> I haven't been actively maintaining the LDAP extension for MediaWiki for
> over two years. There's not really much that needs to change, but some
> basic love and care is likely a good idea. The LDAP extension is one of the
> most popular MediaWiki extensions, so it wouldn't be great if it was broken
> for long periods of time.
> 
> If anyone would like to take this extension over, please feel free.
> 
> - Ryan


Ryan, I hope you can find someone to help out. We use this extension for
our wiki's and it is in my list of 'must-have' extensions.

I put up a short blog post on mwstake
(http://mwstake.org/mwstake/wiki/Blog_Post:27) and heralded it on social
media (https://twitter.com/ckoerner/status/644879602704248833) for what
it's worth.

I'd also suggest throwing a note up on the Extension talk page if you
haven't already. Lots of folks stop by there. :)

-Chris K.


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Re: [Wikitech-l] mediawiki maintenance scripts have moved

2015-09-18 Thread Daniel Zahn
On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 10:21 PM, Florian Schmidt <
florian.schmidt.wel...@t-online.de> wrote:

> Maybe you can put "puppet" or something else into the title of the e-mail
> next time, to make the scope of the e-mail clear? :P


Oh, i will do that next time. Sorry about that. From my point of view
Mediawiki maintenance scripts always meant the scripts and cron jobs in
puppet because that's what ops deals with. It's kind of the same name for
different things.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] LDAP extension ownership

2015-09-18 Thread Chris Koerner
Ryan Lane  gmail.com> writes:

> 
> I haven't been actively maintaining the LDAP extension for MediaWiki for
> over two years. There's not really much that needs to change, but some
> basic love and care is likely a good idea. The LDAP extension is one of the
> most popular MediaWiki extensions, so it wouldn't be great if it was broken
> for long periods of time.
> 
> If anyone would like to take this extension over, please feel free.
> 
> - Ryan


Ryan, I hope you can find someone to help out. We use this extension for
our wiki's and it is in my list of 'must-have' extensions.

I put up a short blog post on mwstake
(http://mwstake.org/mwstake/wiki/Blog_Post:27) and heralded it on social
media (https://twitter.com/ckoerner/status/644879602704248833) for what
it's worth.

I'd also suggest throwing a note up on the Extension talk page if you
haven't already. Lots of folks stop by there. :)

-Chris K.


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Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Tools] Kubernetes picked to provide alternative to GridEngine

2015-09-18 Thread Giuseppe Lavagetto
On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 4:00 PM, Brian Gerstle  wrote:
> Congrats on moving forward with a big decision!  I'm very optimistic about
> containers, so it's exciting to see movement in this area.
>
> Is there a larger arc of using this for our own services (Mediawiki,
> RESTBase, etc.), potentially in production?
>


Hi Brian,

I think we said this somewhere before, but yes we will consider if
kubernetes is a viable platform to run services in production onto.

But Kubernetes is much more than just "containers", it is a
distributed computing environment directly derived by Google's own
Borg system. I think it's a good candidate to be a platform to run
some services onto, but probably not mediawiki or Restbase for the
time being.

Cheers,

Giuseppe

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