[Wikitech-l] WikipediaP2P

2016-11-22 Thread Joaquin Oltra Hernandez
Hi,

I saw this project and I thought it was very interesting:

https://www.wikipediap2p.org/

Basically, it makes the clients connect to each other to share pages
between each other using webrtc before going to the centralized server.

It would probably be a bad idea to convert mobile devices into network
peers given the data restrictions and quality of connections but it seems
like something very interesting for the desktop clients.

Cheers
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Re: [Wikitech-l] WikipediaP2P

2016-11-22 Thread Magnus Manske
It also sounds like a great way to expose your Wikipedia browsing to the
cloud...

On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 5:01 PM Joaquin Oltra Hernandez <
jhernan...@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I saw this project and I thought it was very interesting:
>
> https://www.wikipediap2p.org/
>
> Basically, it makes the clients connect to each other to share pages
> between each other using webrtc before going to the centralized server.
>
> It would probably be a bad idea to convert mobile devices into network
> peers given the data restrictions and quality of connections but it seems
> like something very interesting for the desktop clients.
>
> Cheers
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[Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Ops] mw1017, mw1099 are gone

2016-11-22 Thread Greg Grossmeier
FYI to those who use these hosts during SWAT deploys.

- Forwarded message from Giuseppe Lavagetto  -

> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2016 14:53:50 +0100
> From: Giuseppe Lavagetto 
> To: Operations Engineers 
> Subject: [Ops] mw1017, mw1099 are gone
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> due to an unfortunate chain of events, mw1017 and mw1099, the MediaWiki
> test appservers in eqiad, had to be decommissioned this morning. Their
> substitutes are mwdebug1001 and mwdebug1002
> 
> So, not to break the deployers workflow, what is happening is what follows:
> 
> - when you select mw1017 from the browser extension, the request will go do
> mwdebug1001
> - when you select mw1099, the request will go to mwdebug1002
> 
> the extensions will be updated as soon as possible (in a way that will
> allow us an easy change of the server list without any extension release),
> and I am in the process of upgrading the documentation on wikitech.
> 
> I apologize for the inconvenience,
> 
> Giuseppe
> -- 
> Giuseppe Lavagetto, Ph.d.
> Senior Technical Operations Engineer, Wikimedia Foundation

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[Wikitech-l] Dev Summit 2017 session: DOM-based semantics for wikitext

2016-11-22 Thread Subramanya Sastry

Hello everyone,

I have proposed a 2017 Dev Summit session titled "Improved editability, 
tooling, reasoning, and performance by adopting DOM-based semantics for 
wikitext" [1].


The TL:DR; summary is to treat a wikitext article as made up of document 
fragments that are composed together instead of a concatenation of 
strings which may (but often does not) yield well-formed HTML markup.


Rather than repeat what is already there on the task, I'll mention a 
couple of benefits if you are an editor:


1. If you are a template editor, and you edit a template, it would be 
much more efficient to update all affected articles. For the common use 
case, you would simply replace the old output in an article with the new 
output without having to reparse the article.


2. It is possible to think of edit tooling that lets you edit the 
document at much finer granularities than sections without stepping on 
each other's toes.


There are more details in a draft note [2]. Please don't be alarmed by 
the "wikitext 2.0" term there. That is an umbrella term that we've been 
throwing around in the Parsing Team for a bunch of related but different 
proposals related to wikitext syntax and semantics. This phab task and 
the wiki page is one proposal that concerns itself primarily with 
semantics of wikitext markup and less about syntax. The only syntactic 
feature considered is the heredoc-style syntax for some transclusions 
[3] which would immensely benefit this approach.


Please comment on the task with your thoughts, ideas, concerns, 
approval, criticism, or award tokens or subscribe to indicate interest. :-)


Thanks,

Subbu.

[1] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T149282

[2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Parsing/Notes/Wikitext_2.0

[3] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114432


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